#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-23,Tue

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00:10 🔗 omf_ I have no words for the awesome http://i.imgur.com/cvGsJ1R.jpg
00:16 🔗 ivan` omf_: if I mail you a hard drive with 377GB of ut-files do you think you could upload it to another server?
00:18 🔗 omf_ As a backup site or a primary?
00:18 🔗 ivan` my own server, I'll be hosting it for a while
00:20 🔗 omf_ sure
00:20 🔗 ivan` cool, I will try to get the existing drive I mailed out, but if not I'll just write to another one
00:20 🔗 ivan` someone just put it in his computer and did not upload much
00:23 🔗 ivan` omf_: how fast is the upstream you have available?
00:23 🔗 omf_ I have full 100mbit that I use for bulk uploading
00:23 🔗 ivan` great
03:58 🔗 godane seeing that i have shitty wifi
03:58 🔗 godane i'm doing the what i found of the first 30000 topics in one warc.gz
03:59 🔗 godane then each part going by 10000 from there
04:00 🔗 godane mostly cause there is only 1964 pages for the first 30000
04:01 🔗 godane of course i think they where deleting older topics on torrentbytes.net
04:01 🔗 godane i say that cause someone posted a link to some topic in the 5000s area
04:02 🔗 godane problem is that topic doesn't exist anymore
06:11 🔗 omf_ I am retiring a drive that has 44,801 operating hours or 5.1 years of powered on usage.
06:13 🔗 Aranje seems like a safe time to do it :)
06:15 🔗 omf_ That thailand flood in 2011 borked my plan to buy drives. Prices shot the fuck up
06:17 🔗 omf_ Even though I had no drive failures I started replacing them this year because of the whole 5 years of power on time
06:18 🔗 omf_ What happens if the monsoon season fucks thailand up again? Can we take another 1.5+ years of high parts prices with the ever increasing need of more hard drive space
06:20 🔗 omf_ It might not be so bad since most people are content with cell phones and tablets. Then again I have no idea if SSD factories got hit last time
06:33 🔗 omf_ Got two more drives left to retire and then I am done for the next 3 years
07:21 🔗 BlueMax that's an interesting way to manage it omf_
07:28 🔗 omf_ Before I cycled every 3 years, this interval it was 5, if there are no crazy price hikes I plan to do it again in 3
08:16 🔗 godane looks like hak5 did a very rush encode during ces 2011 for quick segments
12:45 🔗 omf_ This is a great discussion between engineers about bufferbloat - https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2076798
12:45 🔗 omf_ the paper is free
12:45 🔗 omf_ article I mean, no paywall or sign in
12:50 🔗 ersi Yeah, acmqueue is nice
15:11 🔗 AmericanM Hi. :) I'm new here.
15:11 🔗 AmericanM Might anyone be interested in logic-based discussion of the viewpoint that God (a) exists, (b) superlatively impacts human decision-making, and (c) is the sole solution for humanitarian problems?
15:12 🔗 winr4r hey remember that time people argued religion on the internet, it was really civil and then everyone changed their minds
15:13 🔗 winr4r oh wait, that didn't happen
15:13 🔗 Schbirid if that was wrong, sorry
15:13 🔗 winr4r that was just strange
15:14 🔗 Schbirid but i have had my fun with peopel like that and we should not even waste one minute on them
15:14 🔗 Schbirid :)
15:14 🔗 Schbirid and i am off!
15:14 🔗 winr4r aw
15:23 🔗 joepie91 here's your logic-based discussion: any proof or disproof of the existence of a God is based in a method of 'proof' that is specific to the particular religious viewpoint one takes, and can therefore not be considered valid
15:23 🔗 joepie91 thereby it can be concluded that it makes no sense to claim that he either exists or does not exist
15:23 🔗 joepie91 >.>
15:23 🔗 joepie91 and really, you should be doing whatever the fuck you feel comfortable with
15:23 🔗 joepie91 [/topic]
15:37 🔗 * Baljem peers in and raises an eyebrow
15:37 🔗 Baljem I wonder how one could phrase 'bollocks' as a logical argument?
15:38 🔗 Smiley lol
15:38 🔗 Smiley as some kind of proof of evolution?
15:40 🔗 Baljem hmm. well, they're certainly a strong argument against 'intelligent design'. any intelligent designed would have armour-plated them, rather than leaving them as a hugely-effective DoS attack surface
15:42 🔗 Smiley nuhuh
15:42 🔗 Smiley you can remove them from all the males in your clan
15:42 🔗 Smiley leaving you as the strongest and only successor
15:42 🔗 Smiley but not accidently killing all your warriors
15:42 🔗 Smiley evolution isn't bout survival of the indivdual.
15:43 🔗 Baljem ah, but would an intelligent designer have designed us to evolve? ;)
15:43 🔗 Aranje does the designer want their experiment to succeed?
15:44 🔗 Aranje if yes, then yes ;D
15:44 🔗 Baljem so it still works, maybe. we're so far from the realms of actual logical discussion that it's not really worth thinking about too hard :D
15:44 🔗 Aranje :D
15:49 🔗 joepie91 <Baljem>ah, but would an intelligent designer have designed us to evolve? ;)
15:49 🔗 joepie91 consider it a form of holiday leave
15:50 🔗 joepie91 if he just doesn't want to deal with this shit for a while, he lets evolution take place
15:50 🔗 joepie91 ;)
15:51 🔗 Aranje man, that's a nice long holiday.
15:54 🔗 winr4r the world was created by my mum 30 years ago, everything else is a plant to test my faith
15:54 🔗 winr4r prove me wrong fuckers
15:54 🔗 Baljem hah. last time I tried that with a project at work, I came back to find it festooned in crap I'd been trying my damndest to keep it clean off. so you may be right!
15:55 🔗 Smiley winr4r: who created your mum?
15:57 🔗 winr4r Smiley: she always existed
15:58 🔗 Smiley Mia, daughter of none?
16:17 🔗 Aranje I think that qualifies winr4r's mother as some sort of god-figure, right?
16:18 🔗 Aranje or she looks like a prehuman from 5m years ago
16:18 🔗 Aranje but I'll go with the flattering option
16:19 🔗 winr4r haha
17:24 🔗 ersi Schbirid: That was totally fine IMO
19:24 🔗 Smiley Aranje: it's from a book
20:22 🔗 Schbirid wtf http://www.oracle.com/us/products/export/export-regulations-345813.html
20:22 🔗 Schbirid http://www.ameinfo.com/oracle-java-updates-iran-blocked-335216
20:23 🔗 Jonimus Yes, because Java is so important for the construction of WMD's
20:24 🔗 winr4r it's the encryption i think
20:24 🔗 winr4r because you know, nobody in fucking iran needs encryption or anything
20:24 🔗 Schbirid i thought that was something overruled
20:24 🔗 winr4r i hope they don't get an awful tyrannical government any time soon!
22:00 🔗 pft such a shame we couldn't mirror this formspring http://www.formspring.me/Dangr33
22:13 🔗 ersi Nekkid pics?
22:14 🔗 pft well that's apparently where Anthony Weiner was "sexting" women from under his alias "Carlos Danger"
22:17 🔗 S[h]O[r]T how do you know we didnt mirorr it?
22:17 🔗 pft well it's marked private now
22:20 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i dontknow that the list we are using was ever posted but someone could check if that username was in it
22:20 🔗 S[h]O[r]T or SketchCow could randomly check fos to see if it was ever uploaded
22:20 🔗 DFJustin the place to check would be the wayback machine, looks like it's not there though
22:20 🔗 pft i'm assuming it was always marked private
22:20 🔗 pft that he was just using it for whatever messaging services formspring had
22:20 🔗 pft but i could be wrong
22:21 🔗 S[h]O[r]T im pretty sure the wayback machine doesnt have anything that is going on with the archiving project
22:21 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://tracker.archiveteam.org/formspring/
22:21 🔗 S[h]O[r]T *at least automatically
22:23 🔗 ersi It does, if the data we've uploaded to archive.org is under the right collection
22:23 🔗 DFJustin it's all going into http://archive.org/details/archiveteam_formspring and I'm pretty sure the wayback machine is now grabbing everything in the "Web Crawls" hierarchy
22:24 🔗 ersi Indeed.
22:25 🔗 pft hmm. the warc i uploaded on 7/15 isn't in wayback but wayback has a crawl from today
22:25 🔗 pft how often does wayback update from the archiveteam web crawls set
22:26 🔗 DFJustin formspring is maybe not that popular but if you look at http://archive.org/details/archiveteam you can see thousands of hits on the xanga items
22:26 🔗 DFJustin which I would think would have to be wayback users because warcs are not that popular
22:26 🔗 ersi I think wayback sees it instantly. I think that's the whole point with the Hadoopy doop they're doing
22:26 🔗 pft ahh
22:27 🔗 ersi maybe the 7/15 warc was not completely okay or some node was unavailable or some other jizz
22:27 🔗 pft ok
22:27 🔗 ersi the source code to wayback is completely open, if you're too curious :)
22:27 🔗 pft this wasn't part of xanga/formspring/whatever
22:27 🔗 pft this was just a warc i pulled manually
22:27 🔗 pft was hoping i did it correctly
22:27 🔗 ersi It needs to be added to the "Web Crawls" collection
22:27 🔗 pft it was
22:27 🔗 ersi which only IA admins can do
22:27 🔗 S[h]O[r]T i learn something new every day
22:27 🔗 ersi oh
22:27 🔗 pft sketchcow did
22:28 🔗 ersi Then maybe you're not conforming to the expected WARC standard or something.. dunno :/
22:29 🔗 DFJustin one I uploaded in may is definitely in http://archive.org/details/archive.pdp11.org.ru-20130504 http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://archive.pdp-11.org.ru/*
22:30 🔗 DFJustin check whether an item cdx index was produced
22:30 🔗 pft i uploaded one
22:30 🔗 DFJustin there's one that comes with the warc but IA also generates one for the whole item (which may have multiple warcs)
22:31 🔗 pft well this is it https://archive.org/details/www.bythom.com
22:31 🔗 pft i think i uploaded the warc and the cdx
22:31 🔗 ersi See #archiveteam for ongoing SketchCow question regarding ArchiveTeam
22:31 🔗 pft the other files would be IA-generated
22:31 🔗 pft yeah, no idea how to answer that question :p
22:32 🔗 ersi Anything related to AT
22:32 🔗 DFJustin looks good to me
22:45 🔗 Aranje so when does his talk get uploaded
22:45 🔗 Aranje cause fucking shit I want to watch it
22:56 🔗 xmc now back to today's regularly scheduled episode of "where the fuck is my shit". This episode we look for way too long to find a set of ethernet crimping tools!
22:57 🔗 ersi hah
23:05 🔗 * Aranje tosses xmc his pair

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