[00:24] omf_: In 7 hours, yes. [00:30] interview with Brewster Kahle: http://twit.tv/show/triangulation/98 [00:41] okay [02:15] Aranje, that is a good rum video [02:16] ( ´･ω･`)_且 [02:22] Right? :D [02:30] 且_(ﾟ◇ﾟ；)ノﾞ [02:41] 🍺 [02:41] yeah unicode [02:41] 🍻 [02:42] the depth of unicode is so beautiful [02:42] ☆*･゜ﾟ･*\(^O^)/*･゜ﾟ･*☆ [02:47] 👊👊👊 [02:51] ᛁᚳ᛫ᛗᚨᚷ᛫ᚷᛚᚨᛋ᛫ᛖᚩᛏᚪᚾ᛫ᚩᚾᛞ᛫ᚻᛁᛏ᛫ᚾᛖ᛫ᚻᛖᚪᚱᛗᛁᚪᚧ᛫ᛗᛖ᛬ [02:51] 𐌼𐌰𐌲 𐌲𐌻𐌴𐍃 𐌹̈𐍄𐌰𐌽, 𐌽𐌹 𐌼𐌹𐍃 𐍅𐌿 𐌽𐌳𐌰𐌽 𐌱𐍂𐌹𐌲𐌲𐌹𐌸. [02:53] 🔒 ^🔑 🔓 [02:54] ⚢ [02:56] 🙌 [02:57] 흫_흫 [02:58] ಠ_ರೃ [02:58] yeah even I am missing 3 characters on that one [02:58] gotta get a new font [02:59] odd that's usually one of the stock system areas [03:02] This article is so good http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-reviews/10201962/Fourth-Plinth-Trafalgar-Square-Cock-review.html [03:04] There is no way to comment about this without it sounding dirty. Only a women could make a cock that big. [03:07] It is 6 feet tall [03:07] um that looks like rather more than 6 feet [03:08] It is the way it was shot [03:08] ahh [03:08] if you check the related article Going off half-cock it has another pic and the size info [04:53] they really didn't care about techtv descs after a while [09:00] Some episodes have been returned to the BBC from the archives of other countries who bought copies for broadcast, or by private individuals who acquired them by various means. [09:00] I love the last bit of that sentence [09:20] :D [09:22] i like it. [09:58] Just watching the Hackers '95 from the link I have shared yesterday, good stuff, it has some excerpts from Defcon III too [10:16] got the link again? [10:16] Sure [10:16] hang on [10:17] http://thesprawl.org/simstim/hackers-95/ - the video I am watching right now [10:17] http://thesprawl.org/simstim/category/documentaries/ - documentaries, of course [10:17] All TV videos: http://thesprawl.org/simstim/category/television/ [10:32] real business on the internets! [10:33] Looks like you started watching too :) [10:36] downloading the video now norbert79 [10:36] omf_: I am glad I could wake interests [10:36] I love computer industry documentaries [10:36] did you see the drink or die interview godane posted a few days ago? [10:36] omf_: I WAS LYING ABOUT THE 7 HOURS THING ALL ALONG [10:37] I forgot this was the weekend I'm supposed to be at my father's.. [10:37] i love watching.... stuff [10:37] GLaDOS: whoops? [10:37] I was basically looking for old banners from old servers, when I found the link... omf_: No, I can't recall [10:38] Here it is https://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video5980 [10:38] cheers, let me see [10:39] its all good [10:39] I took a coma [10:39] and now I feel so much better :) [10:42] Ok, got the video, let's take a look [10:43] from which year is this again? :) [10:44] at least 5 years ago, probably longer [10:44] whenever that major drink or die bust happened, right after that [10:44] Might be, IRC is mentioned, Google is also mentioned [10:44] I see [10:44] 2001 then [10:48] I relate this image to archiveteam, this is what we are stopping -> http://onlyhdwallpapers.com/wallpaper/shredder_funny_minimalism_desktop_1680x1050_hd-wallpaper-205514.jpg [10:48] not bad, the guy hosted 1.5 TiB of things back then... [10:49] hah, nice [10:49] although direct linking doesn't work :) [10:53] Heh, watched it through... The whole interview feels like some show from the 90's... Software piracy is baaaaaaad, mmkay? [10:53] I think he had to say some of that shit after getting charged [10:54] He calls it stealing instead of copyright infringement [10:54] right [10:54] Valid point indeed [10:57] jesus that site has some horrible popups omf_ [10:58] I wouldn't know ghostery + noscript [10:58] sorry that it does [11:01] And that's why I didn't notice as I use Adblock [11:01] hah [11:02] I always forget how sites really look like since using Adblock all the time [11:02] yeah I have abp installed too, gotta sanitize the input :D [11:02] I allow some sites making adverts, especially those where I wish to express my support for them this way [11:02] but in general I just burn all those ads [11:03] me too, my support site list is just reddit for now [11:03] I found a good one that sums up the current hollywood movie making process http://onlyhdwallpapers.com/3d/glasses-3d-desktop-hd-wallpaper-1094503/ [11:04] and as an interesting material: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/739760-anchory.html#document/p1 [11:04] ANCHORY from 1993 [11:04] NSA PRISM alpha, sort of :) [11:05] It's a bit ridicolous, that despite it's age they still disclose some parts of that document [11:06] norbert79, curiosity question: why have I not seen you in #crytocc before?:) [11:07] insert imaginary space before that smiley [11:07] Like because I hear about that channel for the first time? :) [11:07] what is that about? [11:08] odd, I'd have expected myself to have told you about it before [11:08] well, technically it's a developer channel [11:08] but in practice discussion regarding privacy, NSA, etc pops up with good frequency [11:08] http://wire.cryto.net/logs to get an idea :P [11:09] Sure, already found it [11:09] tl;dr it's publicly logged, the only rules are "no anonymous, no cracking, no drama", and generally quite a lot of good ideas are floated there [11:09] Was just curious as it takes time to go through all :) [11:09] So basically like a bit of old fashioned 90's like ahcker scene? [11:09] *hacker [11:10] And by hacker I mean as a guy with the intenion of discoering, understanding how it works [11:10] ish [11:11] yes, I know, that's the same definiton I adhere to :P [11:11] don't make me imaginary D: [11:11] ? We don't! [11:11] though I'd imagine that in the 90s there wasn't as much web-based stuff being discussed [11:11] while that's certainly the case here [11:11] :P [11:11] but yeah, norbert79, I think you'll enjoy it there [11:11] well, IRC exists for a while, before that there were BBS, gopher, all sort of other things [11:11] :) [11:12] :P [11:12] well, let's pay a visit the place [11:37] https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml these what you got GLaDOS ? [11:40] Yeah, the 2G, except with a 1T HDD [11:40] How much you paying for htat? [11:42] 17EUR/month [11:42] :/ [11:43] Wait, no, 25EUR/month [11:43] Why, found something better? [11:43] ... 2.50 GBP .... [11:48] ..and I just looked at the price [11:49] 500Gb works, [11:49] and so cheap [11:50] Could get a few of them.. [11:50] Or just go all out and get the 16G [11:51] Is there any hoops I have to jump through ordering from OVH outside the country? [11:51] I am with you GLaDOS I might get some shit on ovh and we can have the ArchiveTeam cluster [11:52] I would give you and SmileyG the same access you gave me on anarchive [11:52] plus we can do higher storage shit, the screenshots for example just eat up space [11:52] I think international customers have to go through ovh.com [11:55] I cannot find those prices via the ovh.com site [11:55] http://kimsufi.com/ [11:56] Ah, minimum payment term is 3 months [11:58] I hope I have enough in my bank account.. [12:04] yeah, fuck it, next time i'm getting paid imma buy a few months on one [12:04] i want a shell for downloading webtv and other shit [12:05] and at that price wtf [12:26] note: OVH limits to 3 per customer [12:32] Ah [12:33] So how do I do this as a non-french speaker? I am going through the site and I can get somewhat into the ordering process [12:36] hmm the link I had was to the UK one :/ [12:36] as in it displayed in english for i. [12:37] I was checking out the kimsufi.com site directly [12:37] yeah I see it :/ lame [12:38] crazy french! [12:38] instructions ghere: http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/kimsufi-e2-99month-2gb-atom-dedicated-server-in-roubaix-france/ [12:38] here * [12:40] thats good to know. If I try to order through the uk site will they accept international orders? I know some webservices do not at all [12:40] I just spoke to them, delivery is early next week for my order placed yesterday. They said at the minute orders take upto 10 days to fulfill. [12:40] July 26, 2013 @ 10:29 am [12:40] building to demand atm then. [12:40] omf_: irish site might appently [12:41] .ie [12:41] omf_: see the lowendbox link [12:42] awesome [12:43] I bet one of the reasons these are cheap is that they are atom processors, Intels not so good idea [12:44] and less energy etc etc, less heat, smaller. [12:45] yeah the less energy part is the main motivation for the future generations of servers, look how arm is muscling in [12:45] I just forgot where I read it but there are serious power problems many countries face due to the ever increasing use of computers [12:46] For me the big solution is solar power. It is now easy enough for a semi technical person to build their own 1kw panel for under $1,000 usd [12:47] and at night... [12:47] if you buy that from the store it will cost $17,000 which includes delivery, installation and onsite maintenance for a certain amount of time [12:47] solar *and* better batteries [12:47] The night problem is being worked on by having solar panels collect infrared radiation [12:48] and expanding further into the unseen spectrums for power collection [12:48] hmmm [12:48] thats cool [12:49] The hardest part about modern solar panel deployment is getting the power company and proper inspectors to come out and verify all the hookups for the power grid [12:49] Talk about delays [12:50] nod. [12:50] at least in the US [12:50] so how do I go about putting some solar panels on my shed? XD [12:51] and if you're not hooking up to the grid? who cares [12:52] Make your own grids! [12:52] The advantage to hook up to the grid is you get paid for spare power [12:52] solar-to-grid is only worthwhile because of subsidies [12:52] i.e. people who can't afford solar panels paying for people who can to get cheaper electricity [12:52] sounds unfair! [12:53] yeah, it is, which is why i wouldn't do it [12:53] why the fuck should someone else pay for my preferences? [12:53] meh [12:54] in any case, give it ten years, both solar and batteries would have improved to the point that we won't need grids for anything but heavy industry [12:55] just wait [12:55] you'll have people who claim they are alergic to the solar panels. [12:55] ugh [12:55] btw we have see through solar panels now? [12:55] yep [12:55] I seem to recall that [12:55] Ok, coat all the skyscrapers. [12:55] On the "road" side. [12:55] people have already started working on it [12:56] One of solar's main problems is parts fabrication is still reliant on some rare metals [12:56] depending on who makes them [12:56] which aren't really very rare, right? [12:56] SmileyG: yes [12:56] Just no one else has bothered to mine them because China went "Oh we'll mine them cheap so don't wurry boot it!" [12:57] Like theres more in russia and USA than china... [12:57] There was also the fact that we can find that shit much easier now than decades ago [12:57] and even if they were, and we started to run out, that'd create a big incentive to 1) recycle more 2) find a synthetic substitute [12:57] And then theres some awesome ones in australia. [12:57] YEY I KNOW STUFF :D [12:58] I did build a solar water heater for a friend though, no permits or anything required [12:58] Nice. [12:58] how you go about planning something like that? [12:58] yeah, they need to scrap permits for small-scale power generation [12:58] I want to build a water/sand refridgerator but I would need to move to do that [12:58] black hosepipe and a contained unit for the roof? [12:59] copper piper on a slant sheet of plywood and some reflective material [12:59] Where I live I see it on the ground for easier future access [12:59] Just copper? cool. [12:59] copper is fucking expensive because you need a ton of it [12:59] Nod. [12:59] back and forth, back and forth.... ? [12:59] got any pics? [13:00] People are shocked by the copper price and how heavy this whole thing is [13:00] * SmileyG doubts you could heat much in the UK. [13:00] give me a sec [13:01] http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/WaterHeating/CPVCCollector/CPVCCollectorTest.htm [13:02] that guy did cpvc and a copper unit [13:02] higher grade aluminum now exists which works, it used to break down before [13:02] There are IR spread pics down the page [13:03] dude melted the cpvc version :D [13:07] I am a huge solar power nerd [13:07] holy crap that last photo [13:07] melted to hell. [13:08] omf_: warm water(or even hot) isn't much use to me :/ [13:08] however electricty is [13:09] you save on your power bill and you can take longer hot showers [13:09] I also like to wash my car with warm to hot water [13:10] I got a couple of raspberry pi units that I am going to tie into a solar panel [13:11] and they will be solar warriors [13:11] that's a cute idea [13:12] I used to go to a campsite in france [13:13] that had solar-heated water [13:13] 5 volts at 1 amp each [13:13] from a mountain spring [13:13] they ran all their showers off it [13:13] I bet it felt good to have a hot shower in the morning [13:13] it was quite awesome :P [13:14] even more awesome though was another (naturist) campsite I went to at some point [13:14] in south france [13:14] there's something awesome about quite literally showering with a mountain view [13:18] I have always wanted to do a solar water heated hot tub [13:18] My brother used to build and install pools during college [13:18] I learned a good deal about it [13:23] The reader I picked up after greader shut down deleted all past feed entries/saved items this morning :| [13:23] - Past feed entries [13:23] - Read and starred status for those entries [13:23] Here's exactly what has been discarded: [13:23] I know some of you will be upset about this, and I'm sorry but it was necessary. [13:25] awesome, some guy advocating in the Guardian comments section that "all of the web should be in XML, and HTML is evil and bad and outdated" [13:25] I can't imagine what could possibly go wrong there [13:25] *cough*xpath xslt*cough* [13:30] *cough*xhtml*cough [13:30] welcome to like 1999 buddy, we tried that "let's make everything XML" [13:30] winr4r: he actually argued against XHTML [13:30] and pro-pure-XML [13:31] and that solves...what exactly? [13:31] The real problem is browser devs in the 1990s were fucking crazy. Lets make total piles of shit render [13:31] winr4r: exactly. [13:31] non-compliant fragments of crap are the real problem, moreso than the format [13:32] so the browsers then? :D [13:32] rather than dealing with browser incompatibilities in HTML and CSS, you get browser incompatibilities with XSLT or whatever [13:32] do people actually think shit through at all [13:33] seems not. [13:33] besides, making shit work in more than one browser is actually pretty easy [13:34] lets make a standard to fix all the old standards. [13:34] Because that works, right? [13:34] SmileyG: yes! [13:35] D: [13:35] because that new standard will no doubt be rendered perfectly identically by everything [13:36] obligatory xkcd [13:36] http://xkcd.com/927/ [13:37] hah, yes [13:50] :) [14:06] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-barnaby-jack-dead-20130726,0,6428162.story :( [14:18] aww... [14:24] RIP :/ [14:24] Let the conspricy theories start :< [14:44] aw :/ [16:07] balrog: whoa