#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-27,Sat

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00:44 🔗 godane so 2012 episodes of triangulation is uploaded now
01:32 🔗 omf_ Does anyone else feel that traditional archivists and academics are just not cutting it? I watched some more of the digpre 2013 video and it is just disappointing.
01:33 🔗 omf_ Maybe watching tech talks from the computer industry in which you have to actually build something that works... I understand academia is really slow moving but society now moves faster in part and parcel because of computers
01:34 🔗 omf_ I was impressed with the commoncrawl work
01:36 🔗 omf_ Also the Internet Archive talk
01:36 🔗 omf_ it is on day 2
01:40 🔗 omf_ This brings up a side issue that has always bothered my about academia
01:40 🔗 omf_ Tenure
01:41 🔗 omf_ You get it, then you just slack off the rest of your career
01:41 🔗 omf_ It creates this stale institutionalism in which the good old boys keep all the power
01:42 🔗 omf_ I have been doing more deep reading on communities and the like and shit like that is a killer
01:42 🔗 yipdw omf_: totally. I'm getting very frustrated with that precise issue right now
01:42 🔗 omf_ lots of places put term limits in place
01:42 🔗 yipdw at work
01:43 🔗 omf_ yeah yipdw that is where most people see this problem
01:44 🔗 omf_ You got some boss somewhere who has been around since the stone age and is completely inept at keeping up and improving the job and work place
01:44 🔗 omf_ At a previous job I spent two years on an employee retention committee and I had to talk with employees once a month for a few minutes to take the pulse of the workforce
01:45 🔗 omf_ I learned just as much from what people didn't say
01:46 🔗 omf_ fastest way to sour a work environment, don't listen to the people you hired to get the job done
01:46 🔗 omf_ These fucking clowns say they are relevant and doing shit and compared to the rest of the world they are just sitting on the pot
01:46 🔗 omf_ constipated
01:48 🔗 omf_ The flip side is we are collecting and we can also do the research and spread the findings
01:48 🔗 omf_ This isn't like before the 1980s where information was locked into buildings and books
01:49 🔗 omf_ yipdw, tell us more about work :)
01:50 🔗 yipdw omf_: the short version is that I'm trying to make it easier for developers to own their applications and I'm hitting a lot of political and organizational resistance from people who aren't developers
01:50 🔗 omf_ aah
01:50 🔗 yipdw it's not impossible to deal with, but it is very frustrating
01:51 🔗 yipdw because I'm really trying to make the bottom line better and it's just an uphill battle for no good reason
01:52 🔗 omf_ I assume you have been couching your argument in the dumb terms they understand like better products, cost saving, blah blah blah
01:52 🔗 yipdw I work in a healthcare setting, which may explain some of the resistance
01:52 🔗 omf_ oh fuck that whole industry is fucked
01:52 🔗 yipdw there are of course regulations etc etc to abide by
01:52 🔗 omf_ burn it down and start over
01:52 🔗 yipdw my argument is that we can automate and streamline it to make development easier, more affordable, faster
01:53 🔗 yipdw I'm trying to prototype it and even that is hitting resistance
01:53 🔗 yipdw and yeah, I'm starting to come to your conclusion
01:53 🔗 omf_ there is a great line in Producing Open Source Software about the advantages of automation
01:54 🔗 omf_ I cannot even get a list of what shots I had in the past and when they are do because everyone uses fucking non-standard paper forms
01:54 🔗 omf_ what kinda shit is that in 2013
01:54 🔗 yipdw yeah, I can rant about that for hours
01:54 🔗 yipdw days
01:54 🔗 yipdw :P
01:54 🔗 omf_ I can fucking pay bills, buy shit, balance my finances, play games, consume media and yet doctors == paper floods
01:55 🔗 omf_ oh I bet you have seen some shit
01:55 🔗 yipdw anyway, yeah, hitting institutional barriers even when you have objective ammo to say "look, here are our regulations and here's how we can probably streamline 75% of this shit out" is highly demoralizing
01:55 🔗 yipdw it's fractal CYA
01:56 🔗 yipdw I remember SketchCow once saying about how he never wanted to deal with corporate douchebaggery again
01:56 🔗 yipdw talk about the right decision
01:57 🔗 omf_ yeah that is why I am moving into telecommuting, it helps relieve some of that shit
01:57 🔗 omf_ no watercooler crap, no fights over offices
01:57 🔗 omf_ Man one dude I worked with never even gave me a chance because when I started working there I got the office he always wanted
01:58 🔗 omf_ and of course I had zero say in the decision
01:58 🔗 yipdw well, it's less office politics and more trying to find a way around all the scar tissue that's built up in the institution around PII laws and the like
01:58 🔗 yipdw office politics are great where I am, and by "great" I mean "they don't exist"
01:58 🔗 omf_ that is the best way to have them
01:59 🔗 yipdw it's just dealing with the rest of the institution that's like "jesus fucking christ, you people"
01:59 🔗 omf_ That is why you should be allowed to drink at work
02:00 🔗 yipdw people do bring in beer
02:00 🔗 omf_ Honestly ArchiveTeam should be at these conferences talking about what is getting done instead of a group of limp noodles talking about what they hope they might possibly do in the future
02:01 🔗 yipdw speaking of that, I should spin up more xanga grabbers
02:07 🔗 omf_ yeah I gotta finish grabbing buzzdata
02:11 🔗 yipdw ooh, neat
02:11 🔗 yipdw EC2 spot instance price for US-East is $0.005
02:11 🔗 yipdw and Xanga is in New York, I think
02:12 🔗 omf_ :D
02:18 🔗 GLaDOS And Xanga has blocked EC2 ranges, I believe.
02:32 🔗 yipdw some of them
02:33 🔗 yipdw I have three EC2 spot instances in their Northern California region still running
02:33 🔗 yipdw or, at least, the grabber code hasn't detected the blocking
02:39 🔗 yipdw GLaDOS: actually, I think you're right
02:39 🔗 yipdw www.xanga.com isn't returning anything from US-East
02:39 🔗 yipdw so much for these spots
02:40 🔗 yipdw still responds from Northern California, though
02:45 🔗 omf_ beat em up beat em up rah rah rah
03:14 🔗 DFJustin so I got one of those chameleon 64 fpga cartridges we were talking about the other day, it works well standalone, unfortunately both my c64s are too far gone to work properly, even with the chameleon replacing most of the innards :(
04:20 🔗 BlueMax that's a shame Justin
04:20 🔗 BlueMax so they actually do work as standalone C64s
04:20 🔗 BlueMax interesting
04:31 🔗 BlueMax how do you connect them up to a display?
04:44 🔗 godane so you guys are getting some boot discs soon
04:51 🔗 GLaDOS I do love a good bootsing.
05:30 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-boot-disc-01
05:31 🔗 DFJustin BlueMax: there's a vga port on it
05:32 🔗 DFJustin didn't work very well on the monitors I tried but works ok on the tv
05:33 🔗 DFJustin I tried installing updated firmware and now it's being cranky and not working properly so I will have to fight with that some other time
05:35 🔗 DFJustin nice find on the disc godane
05:37 🔗 DFJustin it's nice someone is making replacement hardware though because c64s basically die if you look at them funny http://www.oldsoftware.com/caring.html
05:50 🔗 godane you will be getting some very old aol software too in these cds
05:52 🔗 godane looks like disc 2 has some aol software
05:55 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-boot-disc-02
05:58 🔗 DFJustin nice aol commercial http://archive.org/download/cdrom-boot-disc-02/boot-disc-1996-10.iso/bootCD%2FMOVIES%2FAOLMOV.AVI
06:21 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-boot-disc-03
06:50 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-boot-disc-04
07:13 🔗 * winr4r hugs godane
07:14 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-boot-disc-05
07:16 🔗 DFJustin throwing up some duke nukem 3D level cds
07:19 🔗 godane you guys are also getting some maximum cds too
07:20 🔗 godane i got all pre 2000 cds imaged scanned so can at least upload those
08:20 🔗 godane i must have got DFJustin motivated
08:28 🔗 godane anyways going to bed
08:28 🔗 godane i'm uploading g4 videos and push one future music dvd i got from piratebay
10:09 🔗 SmileyG oh it gets more fun
10:09 🔗 SmileyG the UK internet filter will block "web forums".
10:09 🔗 SmileyG XD
10:09 🔗 SmileyG yes, plz block facebook by default and have every customer ever screaming at their ISP's
10:09 🔗 SmileyG also watch productivity in the UK rise by 900%
10:09 🔗 SmileyG :D
10:12 🔗 winr4r one of the reasons i have stayed with my ISP, is that they seem to go unnoticed by court orders and the like
10:12 🔗 winr4r like, the pirate bay is supposedly blocked by big ISPs
10:12 🔗 winr4r i can access it just fine
10:13 🔗 winr4r also, SmileyG, where are you in the UK?
10:13 🔗 SmileyG dCoventry.
10:13 🔗 SmileyG like accessing the pirate bay is 1. important, 2. actually not possible
10:13 🔗 SmileyG 3. torrentz.net
10:13 🔗 SmileyG Why search one torrent site, when you can search them ALL?
10:17 🔗 SmileyG for legal materials, of course!
10:18 🔗 xmc nah, just for personal backups that I misplaced
10:23 🔗 winr4r i don't even pirate stuff, i like being with an ISP that can slip under the radar in that way
10:35 🔗 godane so some guy on myspleen has a lord of the rings promo dvds
10:35 🔗 godane i getting you guys a copy
10:36 🔗 godane These DVDs (PAL format, ALL region)produced to promote Peter Jackson's chapters in epic "The Lord Of The Rings" trilogy. They include NEVER RELEASED Electronic Press Kit footage featuring interviews and behind the scenes B-roll. All Press Kit footage was sourced from proffesional broadcast BetacamSP master tapes, so it's simply THE BEST QUALITY! BetacamSP tapes were given only to selected members of the media for producing
10:36 🔗 SmileyG nice, nice.
10:37 🔗 godane of course i feel like i need faster upload speed for this one
10:38 🔗 godane its like 30gb
10:38 🔗 SmileyG give link?
10:38 🔗 godane http://www.myspleen.org/details.php?id=11954
10:39 🔗 SmileyG wants login
10:40 🔗 godane its a private torrrent site
10:40 🔗 godane thought you had a invite
10:47 🔗 SmileyG sweet, sorted :)
10:48 🔗 godane now you can be the guy to mirror myspeen crap
10:50 🔗 SmileyG hmmm yes
10:50 🔗 SmileyG kind of
10:50 🔗 * SmileyG really needs to grab a VPs for this kind of thing
10:51 🔗 SmileyG they got any limits on ratio etc?
10:52 🔗 godane ratio is not really look at too closely
10:52 🔗 godane but i would at least try to get +0.3 or 0.5
10:55 🔗 SmileyG fairt enoguh
10:55 🔗 SmileyG wow i really can't type today
10:55 🔗 * SmileyG goes away
11:01 🔗 godane any ways right now its freeleech
11:01 🔗 godane on myspeen
11:01 🔗 godane if your see the 'Freeleech is ON' on the top of the page like i am
11:05 🔗 winr4r more like mypeen hoaroarharfa
11:06 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/dvdrom-future-music-2011-09
11:13 🔗 omf_ DFJustin, I await with baited breath for Duke Nukem :D
11:17 🔗 godane Duke Nukem is also in my boot cd 1 i uploaded
11:18 🔗 godane Duke Numem 3D
11:18 🔗 omf_ awesome godane another of your uploads I will be downloading promptly
11:18 🔗 omf_ shareware
11:18 🔗 godane i think so
11:18 🔗 omf_ sweet I do not have a copy of that any more
11:19 🔗 omf_ I have the full game, plutonium pak, and the special edition
11:19 🔗 godane funny that the first disc talks about smart agents and offline browsers
11:19 🔗 omf_ is part of the lot you just got in the mail?
11:19 🔗 godane yes
11:20 🔗 * winr4r hugs omf_
11:22 🔗 godane also stuff like this that was in the slipcover: https://archive.org/download/cdrom-boot-disc-03/note-aol-front.jpg
11:22 🔗 omf_ (ᵔᴥᵔ)
11:23 🔗 godane and back: https://archive.org/download/cdrom-boot-disc-03/note-aol-back.jpg
11:23 🔗 godane this is just the 15 hours aol notes
11:24 🔗 godane issue 4 disc had aol note in the slipcover too
11:24 🔗 omf_ I should scan in all my original AOL pre-1.0 to 4.0 disks and mailers I got. I kept them all because a friend from middle school's dad was a high up programmer there so I got free accounts all the time :)
11:24 🔗 godane it said 50 hours of free trail
11:25 🔗 omf_ At the time we were very excited that county wide services like AOL, compuserve, prodigy were doing their thing since we were used to bbs systems for so long
11:27 🔗 godane bbs systems to me is like hoping on to some ones local wifi in today's world
11:27 🔗 winr4r hm
11:28 🔗 winr4r i just realised i have some old cover discs and the like in the loft
11:28 🔗 winr4r ALSO THAT THIS COMPUTER HAS A FLOPPY DRIVE
11:28 🔗 omf_ get 'er done
11:28 🔗 omf_ I bought a usb floppy a while back for disks, now that most of my old photos are scanned in disks are next.
11:33 🔗 winr4r omf_: what do you use for photo scanning?
11:34 🔗 omf_ I was scanning prints in with a flatbed at 800dpi in tiff with no color correction
11:34 🔗 omf_ In the future I am looking into a bulk feed film scanner to do them all high res
11:35 🔗 omf_ I should have started with a film scanner but they were and still are expensive for a quality one
11:35 🔗 omf_ live and learn.
11:36 🔗 omf_ Actually the best scenario is finding a place to rent the scanner or a walk in place where you pay to use equipment and diy
11:36 🔗 winr4r omf_: you didn't answer the question!
11:36 🔗 winr4r and yes
11:36 🔗 omf_ you mean software?
11:36 🔗 winr4r omf_: no, what hardware
11:37 🔗 winr4r something like an agfa d-lab would be lovely
11:37 🔗 omf_ An old Epson Perfection scanner
11:37 🔗 winr4r the scans from those are insanely fucking sharp, even at 6mp
11:37 🔗 omf_ before that I used an HP 4 scsi scanner
11:37 🔗 winr4r 3-shot CCD
11:37 🔗 winr4r so, more like 12 megapixel because they're not using interpolation
11:38 🔗 omf_ The next paper scanner I get is going to be a bulk feed one. I have 10 milk crates full of magazines to scan
11:38 🔗 winr4r omf_: DIY book scanner?
11:39 🔗 omf_ nah these mags are going to get the spine cut.
11:39 🔗 winr4r duuuude
11:39 🔗 omf_ Did I mention I already have 2-3 of each issue. ;P
11:39 🔗 omf_ got you
11:40 🔗 winr4r HAD ME WORRIED THERE
11:41 🔗 omf_ If I only had one of each I would use a camera + lightbox diy book scanning setup
11:41 🔗 godane i really need to get my scanner to work in linux
11:41 🔗 godane cause once i get it working in linux i will be scanning every other day
11:42 🔗 godane and that the same time i'm uploading crap
11:42 🔗 winr4r omf_: but i don't see that buying a couple of canon point-and-shoots is going to be more expensive than getting a bulk feed scanner
11:44 🔗 omf_ I have a canon 5d mark 2 and a rebel t2i already and pro lighting from gigs I worked before. I don't need to really buy anything else. My first solution to most problems is figuring out how to MacGyver a solution from stuff I already own. Damn 80s tv corrupted my mind. :D
11:44 🔗 godane based on what i can tell opticbook 3600 is supported
11:44 🔗 godane the 4800 series is not
11:44 🔗 winr4r omf_: dude!
11:44 🔗 winr4r you have all the stuff right now
11:44 🔗 omf_ I have most of that stuff because I did a good deal of lightbox photography
11:45 🔗 omf_ I don't have the space to full set everything up. I moved my home office to a different room and I am still trying to get all this figured out
11:45 🔗 winr4r omf_: will it be that much bigger than a bulk scanner?
11:46 🔗 omf_ Which is why the photo scanning and paper scanning is getting done since it is not tucked away
11:46 🔗 omf_ just where the tripod legs go
11:46 🔗 omf_ Once I get it running I plan to take pictures of it and post all the info online
11:48 🔗 winr4r good stuff :)
11:49 🔗 omf_ When I started collecting most of this stuff I knew in the future there would be some place to house it
11:49 🔗 omf_ and the IA is much better than a standard brick and mortar museum
11:55 🔗 * winr4r nods.
14:09 🔗 dashcloud guys, I uploaded an iso and a bin/cue for my item here: https://archive.org/details/ArtExplosion but only the bin/cue is showing (I can see the iso if I go to edit item)- any ideas?
14:10 🔗 omf_ The iso is there in the download list https://ia800906.us.archive.org/3/items/ArtExplosion/ As for it not being in the item information page ... maybe there is still a derive task running on it?
14:11 🔗 omf_ Also it might be that the mediatype is image when it should be software and that could change how IA processes and displays said item
14:12 🔗 dashcloud so, I went with community media for that upload- what from the default choices should I pick?
14:15 🔗 omf_ Community media is the collection, image is the Mediatype
14:20 🔗 omf_ The mediatype determines how the item is displayed. It can be texts, image, software, etc...
14:21 🔗 omf_ Here is one I did as software mediatype and I got that nice CD?DVD list on the left. https://archive.org/details/debian-3.0r6_release_sparc
14:23 🔗 winr4r who is an archive.org admin in here other than SketchCow and underscor
14:30 🔗 omf_ godane, myself and a few others have access to curate certain collections but I know of no one else who has full blown admin access.
14:31 🔗 winr4r omf_: can you create collections under archive team and move stuff into them?
14:31 🔗 omf_ nope
14:32 🔗 winr4r omf_: bummer
14:41 🔗 dashcloud for fans of clipart, there's lots uploaded, and plenty more on the way
15:41 🔗 winr4r dashcloud: love youuuuuuuuuu
15:42 🔗 dashcloud glad you're happy with them
15:42 🔗 dashcloud there should be around 42k clipart pieces so far
15:42 🔗 dashcloud still got the two biggest sets to prepare and upload
15:45 🔗 SketchCow I'm it.
15:45 🔗 * winr4r salutes SketchCow
15:46 🔗 SketchCow Fixed ArtExplosion
15:46 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: can you move http://archive.org/details/snapjoy_images into the archive team collection plox
15:47 🔗 winr4r or move that and http://archive.org/details/snapjoy.com-20130715 into a subcollection
15:47 🔗 SketchCow Moved.
15:47 🔗 SketchCow No subcollection, it's too small.
15:47 🔗 winr4r yeah, truth
15:51 🔗 winr4r your talk at the digital preservation thing was great, btw
15:52 🔗 winr4r rare that you hear someone talk for like 10 minutes and actually want them to say more
15:58 🔗 joepie91 http://i.imgur.com/z7ucjDq.png
15:58 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: more rare that you hear someone talk for like 50 minutes and actually want them to say more
15:58 🔗 joepie91 re: other Jason Scott talks :P
15:59 🔗 winr4r joepie91: absolutely
15:59 🔗 winr4r i think alternate-universe jason would be doing standup
16:00 🔗 joepie91 yes :)
16:11 🔗 dashcloud SketchCow: can you straighten out the collection/mediatype on the rest of my items?
17:54 🔗 chivist WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
17:59 🔗 joepie91 <omf_>THY SECRET WORD IS 'yahoosucks' GO FORTH AND SAVE DATA :D
18:00 🔗 joepie91 though I think that was supposed to go in #archiveteam :)
18:00 🔗 chivist thanks!
18:01 🔗 chivist I saved a bunch of websites that were/could go offline
18:01 🔗 chivist do I go to #archiveteam to share them?
18:03 🔗 joepie91 what kind of format did you save them in?
18:03 🔗 chivist I use httrack
18:03 🔗 joepie91 also, yes, perhaps #archiveteam is more suited for this conversation :)
18:03 🔗 chivist k thanks
18:10 🔗 winr4r hi again, chivist!
18:10 🔗 winr4r this is where we talk about shit of no consequence
18:10 🔗 chivist ah nice
18:10 🔗 chivist like the weather
18:11 🔗 joepie91 the Lidl here changed cheese suppliers
18:11 🔗 joepie91 the new cheese is awesome, but the packaging is worthless
18:12 🔗 joepie91 they might as well not have bothered putting one of those "open here" icons on there
18:12 🔗 joepie91 because the whole thing falls apart when you touch it anyway
18:32 🔗 SmileyG lol
18:37 🔗 SmileyG wow the rain here
18:37 🔗 winr4r no rain here!
18:38 🔗 SmileyG heh you need moar rain
18:42 🔗 chivist this is gonna be awkward but I put the wrong username is the IRC client. It's redchivist. (that's my usrname on the website)
18:44 🔗 winr4r oh okay!
18:45 🔗 winr4r we love you anyway
18:55 🔗 SmileyG :D
18:55 🔗 DFJustin omf_: https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Acdbbsarchive%20duke&sort=-publicdate
18:55 🔗 SmileyG chivist: do /nick redchivist
18:56 🔗 chivist do I just copy paste that?
18:56 🔗 SmileyG yeah sure
18:56 🔗 winr4r oh hiii
18:56 🔗 redchivis o fuck
18:56 🔗 SmileyG :)
18:56 🔗 winr4r whoop
18:56 🔗 winr4r haha
18:56 🔗 SmileyG wut?
18:56 🔗 winr4r haha
18:56 🔗 SmileyG what?
18:56 🔗 redchivis I lost my t
18:56 🔗 SmileyG ha
18:56 🔗 SmileyG might be too long
18:57 🔗 SmileyG however easier to reccongise you this way.
18:57 🔗 DFJustin yeah efnet is still in the 8 character age
18:58 🔗 winr4r t rdchivist if you're going to stalk me on twitter you could at least follow me <3
18:59 🔗 rdchivist ah
19:01 🔗 DFJustin rdchivist do you have any old shareware CDs or magazine coverdiscs lying around
19:01 🔗 DFJustin we're collecting them https://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive
19:02 🔗 rdchivist like anything?
19:02 🔗 rdchivist (type of content)
19:02 🔗 DFJustin software / clipart / fonts / that kind of thing
19:02 🔗 DFJustin if you were a computer user in the 90s you'll know
19:04 🔗 rdchivist well
19:04 🔗 DFJustin the kind of thing where they just downloaded it all off the www and shoveled it onto a CD
19:04 🔗 rdchivist I was BORN in the 90s
19:04 🔗 DFJustin ah probably not then
19:06 🔗 rdchivist well thanks for the help/discussion, i'm going to play around with wget and then make a sandwich
19:08 🔗 DFJustin you might check this out too http://matkelly.com/wail/
19:09 🔗 rdchivist and you can create WARC files with that?
19:09 🔗 SmileyG rdchivist: if you wanna learn how to use wget for warcs, you need to check our wiki
19:10 🔗 SmileyG it's epic, and expanding all the time
19:10 🔗 joepie91 DFJustin: hey, I was born in the 90s and I have a bunch of those discs!
19:11 🔗 DFJustin gibb0r
19:12 🔗 SmileyG [ 4.7 G ] Total space from 484 files were freed in the distfiles directory
19:12 🔗 rdchivist SmileyG will do
20:04 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: if you have any of those discs, you should definitely upload them!
20:05 🔗 joepie91 :)
20:05 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: I'm already doing so actually
20:05 🔗 joepie91 but I'm one SATA cable short of having a functional disk drive, ATM
20:05 🔗 joepie91 and my external drive is slow as shit
20:05 🔗 dashcloud that sucks
20:05 🔗 joepie91 so I can't really continue with that rightt now
20:05 🔗 joepie91 so unless someone wants to order me a $1 SATA cable... :P
20:06 🔗 joepie91 (I can't acces my paypal atm, because seized hardware and keepass db...)
20:22 🔗 antomatic hope it all works out ok, joepie
22:41 🔗 godane so my computer friezed today
22:42 🔗 godane must have been cause i was moving files and uploading at the same time
22:46 🔗 omf_ Another CEO got fired for lying on a resume. This time about having a doctorate -> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/embattled-president-of-american-academy-of-arts-and-sciences-to-resign/?_r=3
22:46 🔗 omf_ What I don't get is everything I apply for a job they check the college to see if my degrees are real but a fucking elite academic honor society does not check the incoming presidents doctorate?
22:47 🔗 omf_ This is like those politicians in Europe recently who lost their jobs and cooking their resumes as well
22:50 🔗 omf_ I know people around the world everyday commit fraud to get ahead but I thought faking degrees was harder to get away with now because of the internet
23:01 🔗 dashcloud so, reading that article, more than likely what did her in was lying on grant applications- I'd guess the government or funding organization didn't take too well to that
23:04 🔗 omf_ dashcloud, here is the previous article on it http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/07/25/embattled-head-american-academy-arts-and-sciences-resigns-after-questions-about-resume/ffetbVpxdu7OesQrIUW13K/story.html
23:04 🔗 omf_ and this person gets a fucking half million for leaving
23:04 🔗 omf_ how about jail time instead
23:21 🔗 omf_ Also lying on a federal grant application is a crime in the US
23:23 🔗 godane he must know a guy or something
23:29 🔗 omf_ winr4r, poke
23:35 🔗 godane so i may grab labrats podcast for guys

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