[04:35] godane: is sane-find-scanner setuid where scanimage is not? [04:44] what does that mean? [04:47] godane: tell me what happens when you do sudo scanimage -L [04:48] i ran scanimage -L as root before [04:49] i get nothing [04:53] oh, wat [04:55] i'm back [04:55] wifi just drops some times [04:55] * winr4r salutes [04:55] winr4r: any idea with the scanner? [04:56] godane: see if sane-find-scanner is setuid, i.e. has the bit set that forces it to run as the owner of the executable [05:02] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 98168 Jun 11 21:31 sane-find-scanner [05:02] thats what i get with ls -l scan-find-scanner [05:05] okay, so it's not [05:06] there couldn't be some versioning conflict here? i.e. scanimage being from a different version of scane than sane-find-scanner? [05:06] scane = sane [05:06] i don't think so [05:06] only cause i installed slackware [05:07] so there is only 1 version that i have installed [05:07] hm :/ [06:14] i eat this when i go out with my brother: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Biscuits-and-gravy.jpg [06:16] my brothers breakfest last week: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069260_4415653129490_1109876184_n.jpg [06:17] and me eating biscuits and gravy: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311672_4428046399314_2068261396_n.jpg [06:24] aw it's godane [06:31] Labrats.tv: Episode 11.1 - Macworld Expo 2006 Day 1: https://archive.org/details/labrats-11.1-480 [06:31] i got macworld expo 2006 videos [07:18] i'm hoping search on archive.org gets updated [07:18] its starting to bother me [07:22] as in their index? [07:28] yes [07:28] the search index has not updated since this morning i think [07:28] at least for my stuff [07:29] now it maybe more then my stuff [07:30] the opensource_movies collection has not had search index updated in at least 22 hours [07:30] and i have the last file add to the search index it looks like [07:36] ah :< [08:09] Labrats.tv: Episode 104.1: CES 2008 Day 1: https://archive.org/details/labrats-104a-480 [08:09] i figure i will start posting links here of my uploads [08:09] since you will not find them until the search index is updated [08:44] (._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) [08:44] They see me rollin' [08:45] * Aranje rolls omf_ down a hill [08:46] (ãâã) [08:47] so i mirror the main site of pspminis.com [08:47] i'm now mirroring the forums [08:48] i will most likely have to sed thur it to get the images [09:23] * BlueMax slaps godane sober [09:23] i don't drink [09:24] GODANE ABSORBS MOISTURE FROM THE ATMOSPHERE THROUGH A POROUS MEMBRANE INSTEAD [09:24] morning kids [09:26] * BlueMax doesn't pay for winr4r [09:26] hmmm [09:26] how to change OFF gpt on a drive? [09:27] you have to use a program to change the partition table type to ms-dos or something else [09:27] how big is the disk you are working with? [09:27] actually, shouldn't matter, appently win7 can use it fine [09:28] really? Is that an update to win7 since it was released? [09:29] Dunno but ms site said gpt is fine :/ [09:29] * SmileyG isn't booting from it [09:29] hell, it said vista is fine :D [09:31] so once XP dies we can use gpt everywhere? [09:32] :D [09:35] did it die yet? [09:35] Support for Windows XP is ending on April 8, 2014 [09:35] that's a pretty good run [09:36] and it would have been killed 5+ years ago if MS didn't just crank out shit products [09:37] yeah, there's been some weapons-grade incompetence in the last decade [09:37] vista, 8 [09:37] me [09:37] or is that over 10 years now? [09:37] 30 i think man [09:38] I did my reading, I read all the articles about the vista codebase changes where the dude in charge and had to change around the entire build process because it was so broken [09:38] but no you're lovely [09:38] OH NEVER MIND, MISREAD "ME" [09:38] things like that make sense but damn did MS leave that shit to the last second [09:38] winr4r: 29 :P [09:38] winme was like 1999 or 2000 i think [09:38] Oh yeah, ME, meliumuenehnuum. [09:38] aka WINDOWS 98, PRETENDING TO BE NT EDITION [09:39] Windows XP took something like 2 weeks to build a new release version, after all the rework on vista they could build a full new edition in under a day [09:39] That is a mountain of technical debt paid [09:40] and that is MS's core problem all the devs there say there is too much outstanding technical debt [09:40] that is why openoffice got forked into libreoffice, Oracle stopped the project and more technical debt piled up [09:40] they also think they still have the market clout to railroad people down paths they do not want to go [09:41] yes winr4r yes [09:41] see also: 8, vista [09:41] they don't, because people are as likely to say "fuck it, i'm getting an ipad" as they are to say "well, i'll just choke on it for you then" [09:42] yeah most people don't need desktops, they need internet browsing screens [09:43] microsoft is no longer the safe bet, that's the real deal [09:44] yeah [09:44] Photoshop is going online only [09:44] avid is still windows/mac only [09:44] MS office [09:45] i thought that was online activation to keep it working, not online-as-such [09:45] most of the other shit I can think of is already cross platform like Maya or autodesk [09:45] next version [09:45] let me snag you the article [09:45] oh okay [09:45] go for it [09:45] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/adobe_kills_creative_suite_for_cloud/ [09:46] hm. [09:46] every site has coverage of the annoucement [09:46] it is simpler for them to do that then retool their shit to run on Linux [09:46] i missed it [09:46] and much fucking harder lock in [09:46] well that headline is bad [09:46] but do you not see more than a little "well, we'll do whatever makes us the most money and our customers will suck that shit up" about *that*, too? [09:46] totally [09:47] you know, exactly what MS did, and got away with, for a time [09:47] until they tried it with the xbox ONE XD [09:47] jeez talk about backlash [09:47] because holy god if adobe suicides i will not be especially sad [09:47] I would be sad for all the fonts and things I can no longer get at [09:47] typekit anyone [09:48] adobe is trying to be online only now [09:48] which means it is the perfect time for open source image editing to step up its game [09:48] omf_: yes, it is [09:48] gimp needs 32bit color, krita and gimp are too slow and neither support large image operations [09:48] which is why people still use photoshop, cinema4d and the like [09:48] that and print separation or whatever it's called [09:49] we have that now with plugins [09:49] color correction and space support [09:49] as for GIMP, they can get as good as photoshop is right now, and *nobody will ever use it in a corporate environment* [09:49] glad I wasn't the only person thinking this [09:49] kirta and blender both come with it built in [09:49] looks archive.org is giving me problems again [09:49] it's either a BDSM role or a derogatory slang term for "cripple" [09:49] gegl the new core of gimp is light years ahead but someone else should build the gui on top of it [09:50] uploaded a file and there is no history of existing [09:50] winr4r, you a programmer? [09:50] omf_: yes [09:50] of sorts [09:50] mostly web though [10:21] i guess i can't upload [10:22] keep getting 500 errror [10:45] To tempt them, Adobe is offering "hundreds" of improvement to its Creative Cloud applications, with more introduced on a weekly basis by the company beginning June 17. [10:46] reading between the lines, that basically says "we're going to draw out the release of features, so that if you want all the cool stuff, you'll need to have a subscription for an extended period of time" [10:46] "We believe that Creative Cloud will have a larger impact on the creative world than anything else we've done over the past three decades," Adobe said in a letter to customers. [10:46] lol, yes, justt not a positive kind of impact... [10:49] I 100% agree [10:49] yes, meteors do too [11:00] EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT [11:00] someone call Busta Rhymes :D [12:31] came across some stuff today that someone did based off the dataset collected while archiving Friendster http://snap.stanford.edu/data/com-Friendster.html [12:32] interesting [12:48] archive it! [12:50] "The Web Archive Project" what the fuck is that? It should say Archive Team [12:54] I read Archie... God, sometimes I reflect too much on gopher [13:08] Archive Gopher and Wais [13:08] shit [13:09] Archie Gopher and Wais [13:09] I bet the 90s babies don't know what those are [13:09] I've heard of Gopher... [13:09] but I'm 1984 :/ [13:10] I am 1979, yet I missed those times of the internet yet right now addicted to retro computing too [13:10] worst of it, I run my own gopher too :) [13:11] and thanks to floodgap there is a running Veronica server available in gopherspace too [13:57] facebook-to-gopher gateway do eeet [14:00] omf_: I AM HIGHLY OFFENDED [14:01] winr4r: That would be madness :) [14:09] well, this is worrying [14:09] http://iomfats.org/robots.txt [14:09] :| [14:09] really not happy about this [14:13] you know what you must do [14:15] yup, mirror time [14:15] I don't expect it to go away any time soon [14:15] but fuck [14:15] there's a LOT of unique and important stuff on that site [15:25] "Maybe it's time brands start doubling down on content they actually own, rather than putting all their money in platforms they can't control." [15:25] http://blog.hubspot.com/tumblr-erases-popular-blogger-copyright-infringement-blogging-fea [15:31] quite [15:40] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23452097 [15:42] "protect our children and their innocence". <- direct quote from the PM [16:08] http://softwareandsilicon.com/ [16:08] I recommend anyone here read this [18:20] I still wish there were public libraries for adults. The kids are being extra loud today and all the study and conference rooms were booked before I got here :/ [18:20] sigh [18:20] which curl [18:21] I guess the word quiet is no longer synonymous with all public libraries [18:21] Dude brought in a group of 30 six year olds [18:23] Maybe I should enroll in a college class so I can use college libraries again [18:23] Open 24/7 and no one without a student ID can get in so that means at least a minimum age of 18 [18:27] On the plus side of today the local bike shop had just the right part in stock to fix my bicycle. No waiting on ebay \o/ [18:27] omf_2: well, 18+ or intelligent enough to graduate early :D [18:27] (which presumably means they respect libraries) [18:28] yeah the college library was always quiet and no one was needed to enforce it [18:29] I needed a 6 speed freewheel since my old bike cannot fit a newer 8-10 speed [18:31] how are things going for you underscor? [18:35] omf_2: 7 speed? do those still exist? [18:35] busy :( [18:36] excited for defcon this weekend [18:36] and visiting boyfriend next weekend [18:36] winr4r, when freehub replaced freewheel in the 80s everything moved from 6-7 speed up to the 8-10 speed range we have now [18:37] The bike I am refering to is a 1983 fuji racing bicycle [18:37] I had to get a used freewheel [18:37] but there is now a company that makes new ones for their recumbant and electronic bicycles [18:38] they only go down to 7 speed not 6 [18:38] omf_2: oh, road racers [18:39] yeah freewheel vs freehub is one of the few fully not compatible improvements to bicycles [18:39] in MTBs we were 6 then 7 then 8 and 9 and whatever the hell they have now and it was a quite smooth transition [18:39] 80s mtbs were freewheel first as well [18:40] chains, rims, break systems, shifters, lights, seats and the like are all still interchangable to old bikes but not the gears [18:41] I slapped a 2013 bottom bracket into a 30 year old bicycle and it just worked. :D [18:41] my other bicycle is a mountain bike and much newer [18:41] I have no part problems with it [18:42] winr4r, I saw some bikes have an 11 speed now o_0 [18:43] omf_2: christ [18:44] when i restore mine (1995 diamond back frame, 1995 rock shox mag 21s, mongrel everything else) i'm tempted to see if i can go back to 7-speed for added awesome [18:45] i know i did actually have it 7-speed until about 1999, when you couldn't get XT 7 speed stuff at all [18:46] Here is a good brand one http://www.amazon.com/SunRace-CSM63-7-Speed-Bicycle-Cassette/dp/B002G340LE [18:46] they are still actively made by a few companies [18:47] omf_2: shifters, though (and nope grip shifts won't do) [18:47] fuck grip shifters [18:47] unless i can find a pair of XT thumbies at a sane price [18:47] in my experience most college libraries are open to the public [18:47] (goddamn, those were hardcore) [18:48] in theory grip shifters sound great, in practice they break all the time [18:48] DFJustin, during the day I can just walk in [18:48] but at night not so much [18:48] ah [18:48] omf_2: all the ones i ever used got jammed up real easily when stuff got muddy [18:49] weird, because rapidfire-style shifters were much much more complex internally [18:49] also they have no public internet access, wifi is tied to a student account so I cannot get jstor [18:51] depends on the school, VIU wifi is students only, UBC has public wifi but I suspect it doesn't have journal access (I didn't try) [18:54] true [18:54] also the ubc public wifi blocks ssh which really crimped my style [18:55] eew [18:57] wow laptop hard drives are cheap [19:04] dell still only appears to have 1 linux laptop [19:04] and I have heard not good things about system76 [19:04] So who is the go to for a Linux laptop [19:07] i'm back [19:07] i think lenovo is the default for stuff that works with linux [19:07] and i bought gifts for you guys [19:07] godane: BUTTON YOUR PANTS UP WE WON'T FALL FOR THIS TRICK AGAIN [19:07] i have 2 scanned 1996 pc novice for you guys [19:07] oh! :D [19:07] awesome! [19:08] I am using an old Lenovo right now [19:08] one of them even talks about bbs [19:10] did you get your scanner working [19:10] only on windows [19:10] thats my main problem [19:11] anyways i also got the boot magazine disks scanned too [19:18] looks like i can upload more of my stuff again [19:18] search index is still not updated [19:18] that really bothers me [19:18] i have never seen it this slow before [19:23] hmmm [19:24] we are pushing 50Gb warcs in almost constantly [19:24] are you checking to make sure they are going? The s3 stat page shows a very high 503 count [19:24] major spikes in the past 36 hours [19:24] * SmileyG glances at underscor [19:24] how do I check D: [19:25] the upload will just retry, right? [19:25] if this is the case i may not be doing much updating [19:25] don't want to think i upload alot of g4 videos when it really didn't take it [19:25] and just error on me [19:26] 2 today, 2 yesterday, 4 the day before [19:26] yeah they seem to be going up [19:28] wow the ac in here is on full blast, I need a sweater :D [19:36] http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/07/we-cannot-satisfy-the-demand-for-our-free-ice-cream-so-we-wont-make-any-ice-cream-at-all.html [19:47] that's... fucking retarded [19:49] Oh I dunno [19:49] I can kind of =see where they are coming from [19:49] but they could do some things [19:49] 1. RELEASE ALL TEH SORUCE. [19:49] 2. sit back, relax [19:51] charging a small fee would be legit [19:51] onramp every single person to 1$/mo, paid yearly [19:51] instantly, some portion of the 420k people would dump money on them and they could relax a second [19:57] omf_2: SmileyG: we had major infrastructure failures this weekend [19:57] power loss, db corruption, &c [19:57] Stuff is still getting nurtured back to health [19:58] Did backup generators not kick in? [19:58] We don't have generators at 300f [19:58] We have UPS stuff [19:58] 300f o:O: [19:58] 300 funston [19:58] sorry, the place where ia6* lives [19:58] So if the power goes out you have to scramble to shutdown stuff? [19:58] 1.21GW clearly [19:58] No gennys? ;/ [19:58] Mr. Fusion [19:59] If the power goes it, everything is supposed to automatically fail over to ia7 and ia8 [19:59] cleanly [19:59] Ooooooooo [19:59] howe many ia's is there?! [19:59] The problem is that the UPS died [19:59] * SmileyG is happy to hear this, I'd only ever seen the church. [19:59] and then line voltage on phase 3 sagged [19:59] and caused about half the boxes on the ia60000 rack to safety fail [20:00] Including the DB master, which was in the middle of a binlog thing ot the slaves or something [20:00] so we had corrupt replicas [20:00] and it happened at 3:04 in the morning [20:00] So I was the only one awake [20:00] ouch [20:00] and I don't have (m)any operational buttons. [20:00] and ouch again. [20:01] underscor: case of one phase being extremely loaded? [20:01] (as we found we have at work some how). [20:01] All "core" boxes (ia6000, ia6001) have dual PSUs, one to UPS, one to wall [20:01] You'd think racks would be cabled up 1+2 | 2+3 | 3+1 | 2+3 | 1+2 | 3+1 | ..... etc [20:01] When the UPS died, it resulted in shifting 8A on two circuits [20:01] but no, ours are completely random [20:01] Ouccccccch [20:01] onto ~16A [20:02] on a 20A PDU [20:02] and the ractifier went "HAHAHAHAHA no." [20:02] so we assume the shift caused a bit of voltage sag that triggered safeties [20:02] http://is.gd/wQX93g [20:02] See that nice notch? :D [20:03] I see "no data". [20:03] which I found kind of ironic. [20:04] hmm [20:04] try http://pasteboard.co/1shHwD5v.png [20:04] ah yes [20:04] so anyway [20:04] it was "fun" [20:05] basically it was just the exact failure mode that breaks everything and lights it all on fire [20:05] There are 3 IAs [20:05] 4 if you account our peering points [20:06] 300 funston (church), 2512 florida (richmond, CA book warehouse + ia8*) and 950 Charter (ISC warehouse + ia7*) [20:06] and we peer with things in 200 Paul, but there's no boxes there [20:06] http://monitor.us.archive.org/weathermap/weathermap.html [20:13] wow, florida to paul is tweeting at capacity :D [20:20] yeah, it spends pretty much 100% of the time at full capacity [20:21] We don't really have the money to upgrade it [20:21] It's 80km of no-hop fiber, so we need good optics [20:21] aye [20:21] that ain't cheap. [20:22] probably have to use some doped fiber too, unless you're using physical amps [20:23] not entirely sure what they use [20:23] it is actually MPLS from $someprovider [20:23] because we couldn't get dark from 200 paul to richmond [20:23] ahh [20:24] underscor: is that weathermap public? [20:25] yes, why? [20:25] looks SUPER SECRET [20:25] underscor: just asking :P [20:25] in case I want to share [20:25] xmc: lol [20:25] ah, cool [20:25] hi [20:27] goddamn, this has to be the most disgusting text file I've ever written [20:27] http://p.defau.lt/?r2Y_t9sCPCwEEdDHeyzQ9g [20:27] * underscor cleans up [20:30] so, OVH now bans TOR nodes and any other anonymization services [20:30] apparently [20:36] OVH has a similar network map http://weathermap.ovh.net/ [20:36] OVH banning IRC bouncers is pretty dumb [20:42] OVH just appears to be banning things used by smart clients so they can just keep the dumb ones [20:43] dumb and not bandwidth-hungry ones [21:10] SketchCow: speaking of librarian stereotypes: http://mrlibrarydude.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/image-public-perception-and-lego-librarians/