| Time |
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Message |
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00:55
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joepie91 |
http://treesheets.com/ / https://github.com/aardappel/treesheets/ |
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00:55
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joepie91 |
treesheets is now open-source :) |
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00:58
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ivan` |
cool |
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01:15
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Famicoman |
woot |
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01:15
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joepie91 |
very cool indeed |
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01:15
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joepie91 |
do have to say that I'm noticing some performance issues with the latest version, though... |
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01:16
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joepie91 |
which is odd, I've never had any kind of performance issues with TS whatsoever |
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01:16
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joepie91 |
it happily ran on a Pentium 3 with 384MB RAM... |
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01:16
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joepie91 |
at effectively full speed |
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01:18
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DFJustin |
this is pretty cool http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/portalarium/shroud-of-the-avatar-forsaken-virtues-0/posts/553226 |
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02:25
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Ravenloft |
is there any public collection of "scene" releases? |
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02:28
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Ravenloft |
like, I remember a Centropy intro on this release, that I downloaded via IRC back in the day, and it took like an entire day to get it |
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02:28
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Ravenloft |
2002-05-03 22:00:00 SVCD Spiderman.SVCD.TS-Centropy |
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02:29
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Ravenloft |
I suppose mostly here are familiar with #pre and stuff |
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02:30
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Ravenloft |
think orly.db, but with the actual files |
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02:31
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Ravenloft |
you know, someday, generations after us, Mickey will be free |
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02:31
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Ravenloft |
maybe |
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02:32
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Ravenloft |
do you think that the NSA guys reading this would mind this conversation? |
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02:37
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Ravenloft |
in another note, this: http://www.kempa.com/2004/03/09/vinyl-data/ |
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02:38
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Ravenloft |
I tought about it the other day, look it up, and surely someone did it |
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03:05
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Ravenloft |
http://www.headen.com/XL1.htm |
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03:05
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Ravenloft |
*I thought about, looked it up and sure enough, someone had done it |
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06:12
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omf_ |
http://gigaom.com/2013/07/29/apple-workers-file-lawsuit-for-lost-wages-due-to-bag-searches/ |
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06:15
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yipdw |
you'd think Apple would be more efficient at it, given how much they plug Spotlight |
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06:15
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yipdw |
no command+space for bag search I guess |
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06:19
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omf_ |
Who would want to work a company that clearly does not trust employees. |
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06:20
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omf_ |
I wonder when the bag check policy started |
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06:24
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yipdw |
the complaint makes a reference to six years before it was filed |
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06:24
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yipdw |
that's not a direct indication that it's six years old, though |
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06:28
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yipdw |
I understand (to a point) the package and bag search, but that doesn't excuse the shittiness or inhumanity of the policy, in my mind |
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06:28
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yipdw |
that said, I've never worked a retail job, and I'm always shocked when I read about policies that are common in that sector |
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06:28
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omf_ |
There are better solutions to this kind of issue |
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06:30
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yipdw |
I was going to say trust works, then I realized Apple is on the West Coast |
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06:30
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yipdw |
and the plaintiffs are also coastal |
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06:30
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yipdw |
and the main problem with coastal Americans is that they are universally fucking insane |
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06:53
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omf_ |
joepie91, you'll love this http://missingm.co/2013/07/identical-droplets-in-the-digitalocean-regenerate-your-ubuntu-ssh-host-keys-now/ |
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07:38
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SmileyG |
hmmm |
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07:39
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SmileyG |
when i worked in retail, they had the right to search bags |
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07:39
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SmileyG |
no arguments there |
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07:39
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SmileyG |
as for 30 min unpaid, I ended up waiting 15min unpaid most shifts while they locked up |
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07:40
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SmileyG |
Didn't want it searching? Don't take it in. |
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07:47
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SmileyG |
while it sucked..... not much I could say |
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07:48
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SmileyG |
So it's illegal to check an employees bag there? Or it's illegal due to the 30 min wait? (Which is actually 5-15 if you read the articles?) |
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08:07
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SmileyG |
omf_: lol so their image generation wasn't generating new keys, nice |
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08:07
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SmileyG |
it makes me wonder how many people didn't notice. |
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08:08
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omf_ |
I have a script that switches the keys on any cloud hosting provider the first time I use it. Unless you install the image yourself, shit is untrust worthy |
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08:09
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omf_ |
ovh, linode, and DO have all had security shit in the last year |
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08:09
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omf_ |
How fucking hard is it to be a butt provider. AWS and Joyent seem to get it right |
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08:10
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omf_ |
Maybe they need a Sir Mix-a-lot record |
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08:11
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SmileyG |
DO's isn't so bad, if it's just the one above. |
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08:11
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SmileyG |
That's just a silly mistake or someone not understanding what they are doing when creating a new image. |
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08:11
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SmileyG |
OVH and Linode's were big fuckups iirc |
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08:12
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omf_ |
DO was rumored to have a hole in their admin interface at one point |
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08:13
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omf_ |
no public stories to verify it |
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08:13
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ivan` |
providers can compete on price but not really on security |
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08:13
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ivan` |
plus no consequences for fucking it up! yay |
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08:13
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omf_ |
Don't get me wrong, I use DO all the time. I do not trusted to do massive web data crunching. I am going to release what I learn as CC anyway |
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08:14
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omf_ |
I just need discrete computing that is functional while I use it |
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08:14
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omf_ |
I built a PCI compliant system a few years ago and that was on dedicated hardware the company hosted locally |
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08:15
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omf_ |
For what I am paying I am fine with how it works |
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08:39
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SmileyG |
PCI Compliance is a load of BS too tho |
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08:39
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|
* |
SmileyG knows from building out Credit Card platforms here. |
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08:41
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SmileyG |
It's agood starting point, but just because you are PCI-DSS compliant means you in no way secure. |
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08:46
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omf_ |
Did an external auditor check your compliance? |
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08:46
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omf_ |
I had to and they were brutal |
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09:06
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SmileyG |
yes |
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09:06
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SmileyG |
ours was an idiot |
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09:06
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SmileyG |
he'd say one thing, then reverse it when it fixed it |
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09:06
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SmileyG |
then we tried to phone him and he's in iran or something crazy. |
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09:12
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omf_ |
the dude I got knew what the fuck was going on |
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09:12
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omf_ |
I learned a few things during that process |
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09:13
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omf_ |
Just imagine if they were all good at their job |
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09:14
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omf_ |
thats the problem is there are very few great security experts and a bunch of lucky security people |
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09:14
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omf_ |
lucky as in no one attacked their system before |
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09:17
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SmileyG |
Aye |
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09:17
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SmileyG |
I'm good, but I have no clue where to start _after_ an incident. |
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09:17
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SmileyG |
I'm open and honest about that though. |
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09:17
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SmileyG |
I'm not a DR guy. |
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09:18
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omf_ |
I think of Disaster recovery and security breaches different |
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09:18
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SmileyG |
Oh yeah they are |
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09:18
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SmileyG |
but as theres only 3 of us here.... we end up doing everything |
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09:18
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omf_ |
oh fuck the power went out! means get shit back online |
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09:18
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|
omf_ |
security breach? disconnect all the things |
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09:19
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SmileyG |
:D |
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09:19
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omf_ |
I just found an audio cd I have that has a fucking starbucks logo on it :( |
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09:19
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SmileyG |
D: |
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09:19
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SmileyG |
one of the free ones from teh stores? did they ever give away CD's? or just free downloads? |
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09:20
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omf_ |
No it is a jazz cd I bought used a few years back |
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09:20
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omf_ |
To think a coffee company is important enough to stick their shit on other people's work |
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09:20
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omf_ |
they underpay the farmers |
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09:21
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SmileyG |
they underpay their taxes |
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09:27
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omf_ |
I just found out the company that my mother has been buying linens from for 20+ years just went out of business after being open for 216 years |
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09:27
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omf_ |
126 years |
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09:28
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omf_ |
I mean damn |
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09:29
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|
omf_ |
they got outsourced |
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09:48
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SmileyG |
:/ |
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12:16
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godane |
that is taking the search index so long? |
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12:24
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godane |
i sort of decide to start uploading all formats of the labrats podcast |
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12:29
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joepie91 |
omf_: surprise! |
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12:29
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joepie91 |
re: DO |
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12:32
🔗
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norbert79 |
joepie91: Hey... |
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12:32
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norbert79 |
joepie91: Just an interesting topic: I have tweeted about a course in a school on my Twitter account, but here is the link... Just cool: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~redwood/OffensiveSecurity/ |
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12:33
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norbert79 |
Started reading slides, very valuable |
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12:33
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joepie91 |
bookmarked |
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13:08
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godane |
SketchCow: another twit network collection: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22science-news-weekly%22 |
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13:28
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joepie91 |
... impressive. |
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13:28
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joepie91 |
Downloaded: 278 files, 46M in 6.8s (6.84 MB/s) |
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13:28
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joepie91 |
I just wget-warc'd a site. |
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13:32
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joepie91 |
hey uh, SketchCow, seeing as I was raided not too long ago I don't currently have access to my archive.org account |
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13:32
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joepie91 |
nor do I have access to the e-mail address it was registered on |
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13:32
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joepie91 |
(because keepass) |
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13:32
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joepie91 |
how would I go about regaining access to it? |
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13:34
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norbert79 |
raided? |
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13:36
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SmileyG |
norbert79: he's naughty |
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13:36
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norbert79 |
Yeah, I was aware, but this naughty? |
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13:36
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norbert79 |
:) |
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13:37
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SmileyG |
This page contains all the lecture Lecture Slides and youtube videos for the Spring 2013 semester of this course. << this I like. |
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13:37
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norbert79 |
SmileyG: Indeed, started reading, it demonstrates experience and skills indeed |
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13:37
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joepie91 |
norbert79: I'm surprised you didn't hear |
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13:37
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|
joepie91 |
was raided by Dutch authorities as a "witness", raid ordered by FBI |
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13:38
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joepie91 |
hardware taken |
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13:38
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SmileyG |
I haven't yet, but will be interesting. |
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13:38
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SmileyG |
fun |
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13:38
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SmileyG |
they raid witnesses? |
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13:38
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joepie91 |
apparently so, yes. |
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13:38
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norbert79 |
joepie91: Yeah, sometimes it slipped by me... |
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13:38
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SmileyG |
Nice country you have there. |
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13:38
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norbert79 |
heh |
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13:38
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joepie91 |
SmileyG: that was my thoughty, pretty much. |
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13:38
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joepie91 |
thought, even |
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13:38
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joepie91 |
also, uploaded: https://archive.org/details/traindriver-warc |
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13:39
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SmileyG |
See my country might suck in ways |
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13:39
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SmileyG |
but I've not heard of us raiding anyone as witnesses yet. |
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13:39
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norbert79 |
Me neither |
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13:39
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SmileyG |
Also, you can't force a witness, can you? |
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13:39
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SmileyG |
So them raiding you simply makes you want to go "Nope, saw nothing, sorry" and all the evidence is unusable? |
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13:40
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joepie91 |
SmileyG: not quite |
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13:40
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|
joepie91 |
images of my hard drives etc. will be made, and sent off to the FBI |
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13:40
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|
joepie91 |
for use in their investigation |
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13:40
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SmileyG |
Hmmm |
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13:40
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SmileyG |
So they do have uncoopertive witnesses. |
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13:40
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joepie91 |
seems so, yes. |
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13:40
🔗
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SmileyG |
then again here, they can't raid you unless your a suspect. |
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13:41
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SmileyG |
So yeah, nice laws. |
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13:41
🔗
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joepie91 |
welcome to NL |
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13:41
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SmileyG |
:) |
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13:41
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joepie91 |
the free country that isn't as free as non-Dutch people tend to believe |
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13:41
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SmileyG |
I don't believe anywhere is free, unless you live on a mountain, or in a desert. |
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13:41
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SmileyG |
like _really_ off the grid. |
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13:42
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norbert79 |
Shameful I say |
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13:56
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GLaDOS |
I think i can reasonably deduct from today that I am absolutely shit at Guitar Hero |
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13:57
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GLaDOS |
Now, to prove that deduction, SCREAM AIM FIRE |
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14:07
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godane |
i'm starting to upload Dr. Kiki's Science Hour |
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14:08
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|
godane |
since it was canned in mid 2012 |
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14:08
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|
godane |
also no hd videos so i will not have to decide if i'm going to do the hd versions |
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14:09
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|
godane |
also episode 25 video is broken so its no being upload |
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14:09
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godane |
maybe odtv has a copy |
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14:09
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norbert79 |
still more, than nothing |
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14:12
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godane |
we may get all video of dr. kiki's sicence hour video |
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14:12
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godane |
i say that cause it started in 2009 and the odtv videos are still ether |
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14:18
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Dr_Kiki_Science_Hour_24 |
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14:29
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|
godane |
i just noticed something very old |
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14:29
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|
godane |
archive.org doesn't derive everything |
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14:30
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godane |
i uploaded divx, wmv, m4v, and mov to one of my labrats items earlier |
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14:30
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godane |
the original derived item was divx |
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14:31
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|
godane |
now it looks like it will only derived the m4v file |
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14:31
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DFJustin |
if they're all the same filename except for the extension I think it messes it up |
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14:31
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Dr_Kiki_Science_Hour_26 |
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14:32
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godane |
ok |
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14:32
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DFJustin |
since all the derivatives would have the same name |
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14:32
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|
godane |
ok |
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14:33
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Dr_Kiki_Science_Hour_27 |
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17:22
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Tephra |
if anyone missed: http://swartz-report.mit.edu/docs/report-to-the-president.pdf |
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17:49
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SmileyG |
winr4r: you now need to thank me for grabbing pouet.net on twqitter too |
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17:50
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SmileyG |
that was you right? |
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18:31
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joepie91 |
eh, relevant |
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18:31
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|
joepie91 |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/30/the-free-web-program-that-got-bradley-manning-convicted-of-computer-fraud/ |
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18:31
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SmileyG |
not loading without script, |
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18:31
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SmileyG |
so what is the program joepie91 ? |
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18:31
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DFJustin |
wget |
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18:32
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joepie91 |
^ |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
D: |
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18:32
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joepie91 |
it says it in the article |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
joepie91: ^^ |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
doesn't load without script |
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18:32
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joepie91 |
How does using wget qualify as computer fraud? U.S. prosecutors pointed out that wget was not on the list of â??approvedâ?� programs for use in facility where Manning worked. They argued that, although Manning was allowed to access the files, using an unauthorized program to do it amounted to a digital â??trespassâ?� and thus computer fraud. They also used the fact that wget was not permitted on Manningâ??s computer |
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18:32
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joepie91 |
as further evidence that using it amounted to illegal computer access. |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
fuck that for a start. |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
Oh so it wasn't wget as such |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
it was the fact there was a unauthorized program |
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18:32
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SmileyG |
so stop spreading the fud and carry on. |
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18:33
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DFJustin |
it's more so the CFAA being broken as shit like usual |
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18:33
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DFJustin |
but it is still pretty lol |
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18:33
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SmileyG |
it is lol, except someone is in jail :/ |
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18:33
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sep332 |
this article has some details on the technical confusion in the court http://indyreader.org/content/thoughts-attending-bradley-mannings-computer-crimes-trial |
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18:34
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sep332 |
(3 pages) |
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18:34
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joepie91 |
SmileyG: you do realize that the same argument can be used in the case of archiving? |
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18:34
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sep332 |
> But the government's argument is that use of wget was 'unauthorized' access, a criminal act under the CFAA because Manning was, to quote from their closing argument, "only allowed to view one document at a time using a web browser." |
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18:34
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sep332 |
^ my favorite part |
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18:34
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SmileyG |
ah it's like our computer act too |
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18:35
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SmileyG |
joepie91: yes, if your not allowed |
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18:35
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joepie91 |
"even if you can publicly access the site, it's only intended for browsers, and using wget-warc would be trespassing because it's not authorized to be there" |
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18:35
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SmileyG |
joepie91: if they fail to robots.txt, fuck em |
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18:35
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joepie91 |
SmileyG: which means the argument can still be used against -e robots=off |
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18:35
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SmileyG |
of course it can |
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18:35
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SmileyG |
you scared yet? |
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18:36
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sep332 |
pretty similar to what weev got convicted for. i mean there are reasons he should be in jail but not wget :p |
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18:36
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SketchCow |
I only got a while into the report before I got angry |
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18:36
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SmileyG |
AMERICA< FUCK YEAH |
|
18:36
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SmileyG |
when will you fucking rise up |
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18:37
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SmileyG |
how much shit needs to happen before it all explodes? |
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18:37
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SketchCow |
I'm already rising up, sir. |
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18:38
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SketchCow |
I've put terabytes of vintage software up. |
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18:38
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SketchCow |
Terabytes. |
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SmileyG |
SketchCow: not aimed at you in the slightest. |
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SmileyG |
i just get so fucked off with americans and their "freedom" |
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SmileyG |
yeah right |
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sep332 |
surprisingly, people are getting angry about NSA spying recenly. enough to scare congress. |
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sep332 |
not sure how that happened, but maybe it will spill over? |
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SmileyG |
.... they are? |
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SmileyG |
last I checked not much has really happened |
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SmileyG |
until the next time |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
how are those protests on wall street going? |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
HOw is iraq looking? |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
How you doing in afaganistan? |
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18:40
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sep332 |
congress had a vote to remove funding from one of the NSA programs. it almost passed. |
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SmileyG |
how is libia? |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
what, we forgot all of those? |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
Almost passed... |
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SmileyG |
seriously |
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sep332 |
that means a lot of congress critters are unhappy with the program in general |
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SmileyG |
the country is in all out uproar |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
and a thing "almost" passes. |
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18:41
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sep332 |
it will get changed/ out in the open which is what should have happened. |
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joepie91 |
SmileyG: honestly, that people are still talking about it is a small miracle, compared to previous events. |
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SmileyG |
joepie91: shame we seem to have forgotton Aaron? |
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18:41
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SmileyG |
How about Mr Ecudorian Embassy? |
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18:42
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SmileyG |
funny how the media is almost controled to the point of not looking back |
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18:42
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sep332 |
no one noticed aaron to begin with. |
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18:43
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sep332 |
some people are still fighting over aaron. MIT is still fighting back |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: it's all very well to criticise america on this count, but bear in mind that GCHQ was found to have a tap on the fucking transatlantic cable *and nothing happened at all* |
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winr4r |
and that's arguably far worse than what we know the NSA are doing |
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18:46
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winr4r |
so you know, we're not doing so great on that count |
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18:46
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SmileyG |
winr4r: I don't think we ever believed GCHQ wasn't monitoring us, and they haven't denied monitoring UK citizens either afaik? |
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sep332 |
at least google will encrypt my data (via SSL) before sending it over transatlantic cables. |
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SmileyG |
They quite proud of the fact they can buffer 10 days of the data going in/out of the UK |
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winr4r |
right |
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18:47
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sep332 |
then hand the NSA the plaintext from their servers. i think that's worse. |
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18:47
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winr4r |
so america is worse because their spy agencies lie about what they do? |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: yes? |
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18:47
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SmileyG |
hmmm |
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18:47
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SmileyG |
yes |
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winr4r |
and that merits you telling them to rise up, what are *you* doing right now? |
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* |
SmileyG continues to think |
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18:47
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SmileyG |
winr4r: I write nasty letters |
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18:47
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winr4r |
that'll help |
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18:48
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SmileyG |
I don't see my country locking up people for using wget. |
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SmileyG |
(yet) |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: I'm not beliving I'm free. |
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winr4r |
no, we just go to jail for a different set of bullshit reasons |
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SmileyG |
I'm not judging other countries while thinking mine is perfect. |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: we do? |
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SmileyG |
sources/ |
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SmileyG |
? |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: show me a single american who says their country is perfect and uses that to judge others |
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winr4r |
i mean |
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winr4r |
one will do |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: lol oh god really? |
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joepie91 |
winr4r: I have run across several in the time I've spent on IRC |
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SmileyG |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sarah_Palin_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg |
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SmileyG |
and yeah |
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SmileyG |
try any overly american chat |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: which is why sarah palin ran on a platform of doing absolutely nothing, right |
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18:49
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SmileyG |
tel them their country sucks |
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winr4r |
because everything was perfect already |
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18:50
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SmileyG |
you wanted one over the top american |
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18:50
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SmileyG |
you got one. |
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winr4r |
that isn't what i said |
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18:51
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SmileyG |
https://pinterest.com/courtgracehol/god-bless-merica/ |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: I can't link you to people I chat to |
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18:51
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SmileyG |
but there is plenty on twitter if you want to find them |
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winr4r |
300 million people |
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19:16
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underscor |
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162581-foc-us-the-first-commercial-tdcs-headset-that-lets-you-safely-overclock-your-brain |
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joepie91 |
underscor: that seems like a terrible idea. |
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underscor |
hahaha |
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19:49
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ivan` |
inoreader + Minimal theme looks and works almost exactly like Reader |
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ivan` |
strangely you have to turn on an option to use the feed item timestamps instead of received timestamps |
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godane |
g4tv.com-video25859: IMPORTED TECH TV VIDEO - ss040607allofmp3_165_0.flv: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video25859 |
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godane |
a talk about allofmp3.com |
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20:06
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yipdw |
underscor: I can't wait for people to start becoming addicted to that |
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20:07
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yipdw |
GOTTA HAVE MY MORNING FOC.US |
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joepie91 |
question for peoples here |
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20:07
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joepie91 |
machine-readable dataset with timetable and/or tariff information for public transit in the UK |
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20:07
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joepie91 |
where get, aside from travelinedata? |
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joepie91 |
wb winr4r |
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20:09
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joepie91 |
let me repaste, perhaps you know the answer |
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joepie91 |
<joepie91>machine-readable dataset with timetable and/or tariff information for public transit in the UK |
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20:09
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joepie91 |
<joepie91>question for peoples here |
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20:09
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joepie91 |
<joepie91>where get, aside from travelinedata? |
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Schbirid |
some osm guys might know |
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20:09
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joepie91 |
where can I find said guys? |
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Schbirid |
if jgc is from the uk he built some clock with transit stuff, might be US though |
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antomatic |
There are a few such things for UK rail services, I think I'm right in saying |
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20:10
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Schbirid |
oftc #osm |
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antomatic |
buses are more complex and fuzzy |
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: thanks |
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Schbirid |
also try öpnvkarte.de |
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joepie91 |
antomatic: yeah, trains seems pretty much covered by traveline |
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joepie91 |
buses are a mess |
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joepie91 |
too many companies |
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Schbirid |
osm.org has a transport map too |
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20:10
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Schbirid |
layer chooser on the right |
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winr4r |
joepie91: thaaanks |
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20:11
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winr4r |
and nope, no idea |
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antomatic |
data.gov.uk has some nuts and bolts, search 'network rail' for example |
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antomatic |
I'm trying to remember what the full tariff/routing dataset is called.. I've seen it somewhere |
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joepie91 |
for context, I am researching the feasability of building a universal public transit planner for the UK, much like 9292ov.nl for the Netherlands |
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antomatic |
It's a hideous big old 70s style ascii file |
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20:12
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joepie91 |
because wtf why is there no sane public transit planner in the UK |
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joepie91 |
antomatic: I think I ran across that |
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antomatic |
datahib.io/dataset/uk-rail-timetables is a derivative of that, i think |
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joepie91 |
that's only for rail though, right? |
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antomatic |
datahub that should be, not hib |
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antomatic |
only rail, true |
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antomatic |
Traveline is the main aggregator but it's still pretty disconnected |
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20:14
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antomatic |
One of the bigger 'bus route' iOS applications uses it |
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antomatic |
too |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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20:15
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joepie91 |
traveline is very obviously incomplete |
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20:15
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joepie91 |
tried to figure out how to get from central London to Thorpe park |
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joepie91 |
nope.avi |
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20:15
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joepie91 |
I can't recall if Traveline was the one that just didn't know about the shuttle |
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20:15
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joepie91 |
or the one that didn't tell me how much it'd cost |
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winr4r |
oh |
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winr4r |
do you want to know because you want to know, or because you're using that as a test case? |
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antomatic |
I was thinking about this the other day - even in my own city, there's not really anything that REALLY encompasses the knowledge of how to get from A to B - even the obvious detail of 'which bus stops will this bus call at', etc? |
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antomatic |
Virtually considered grabbing a GPS and just mapping it all out myself by brute force. :) |
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antomatic |
but eventually the mania subsides. :) |
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Schbirid |
antomatic: dooo it if it is not on http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.5&lon=6.6&zoom=5&layers=T already |
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winr4r |
OSM is fucking awesome |
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antomatic |
journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk is a big one for London, of course, although it doesn't give you much in the way of data |
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SmileyG |
antomatic: oh theres plenty for me. |
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SmileyG |
i can't recall which site, might be travelline |
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SmileyG |
but it covers everything pretty well here |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
OSM has certainly gotten a lot more pleasant to use |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
<winr4r>do you want to know because you want to know, or because you're using that as a test case? |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
test case |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
I already know the costs |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
I pretty much figured it out through brute force |
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20:23
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joepie91 |
20 tabs worth of timetables, tariff pages, and bus line details |
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antomatic |
haven't looked at osm recently ... not at all bad! |
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winr4r |
antomatic: it's amazing |
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Schbirid |
osm really is mostly the data |
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20:24
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Schbirid |
dont judge it by its website |
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20:24
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Schbirid |
but check out all the services other people build with it |
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20:26
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: I actually like how OSM works now more than how Google Maps works |
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20:26
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Schbirid |
oh me too, even if i disagree with some of the latest gui poop :D |
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Schbirid |
btw you can zoom by holding shift and drawing a rectangle! |
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Schbirid |
and http://map.project-osrm.org/ is a kickass router |
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underscor |
yipdw: :D |