| Time |
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03:12
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godane |
so looks like i may find another collection of pdfs to grab |
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07:13
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arkhive |
Jack in the box fast food website. Got a 404. Check it. http://www.jackinthebox.com/menu/product?prod_id=java_cookie_shake&cat_id=8 |
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07:13
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arkhive |
ends with a keanu reeves whoa. I thought it was funny. |
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07:42
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joepie93 |
brayden: :P |
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07:42
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* |
brayden completely ignores the "READ ALL OF THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT" |
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07:42
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joepie93 |
lol |
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07:42
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joepie93 |
oh by the way |
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07:43
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joepie93 |
if you use this monkeypatch from multiple threads in a Python VM without a GIL |
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07:43
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joepie93 |
you're probably very, very fucked |
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07:43
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joepie93 |
:) |
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07:43
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brayden |
Pfft threads! |
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07:44
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brayden |
Never really used them. Was told async was better in basically every way and never bothered! |
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07:44
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joepie93 |
brayden: pretty much |
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07:44
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joepie93 |
well, to be fair |
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07:44
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joepie93 |
there are reasons to use threads |
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07:44
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joepie93 |
async isn't *always* the solution :P |
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07:44
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joepie93 |
3er |
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07:45
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joepie93 |
er * |
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07:45
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joepie93 |
event-based isn't always the solution * |
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07:45
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brayden |
Well from having to use it sparingly in the past, it certainly is a bit easier in that you don't have to get packages specifically made to be async, or use asyncore to hack it up. |
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07:46
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joepie93 |
ugh, asyncore |
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07:46
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joepie93 |
I'd love to learn how it works, if there were some readable docs on it |
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07:46
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joepie93 |
anyway |
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07:47
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joepie93 |
the problem with event-based (not specific to Python) is that you're probably going to be limited to one CPU core |
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07:47
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brayden |
Depends on what you're doing whether you need a lot of power I suppose! |
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07:48
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brayden |
I'm just doing single core stuff with Tornado and doing quite a bit of templating and such and pages generate in ~10ms no problems, no bottlenecking. |
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07:48
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brayden |
Only problem I guess is for games and scientific applications |
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07:55
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joepie93 |
brayden: if you have a multicore server and you want to serve up a lot of stuff, then you're probably going to want to use all your cores |
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07:55
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joepie93 |
:) |
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07:55
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Smiley |
or any kind of precaching |
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07:56
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brayden |
It isn't designed with the intention of handling a lot of traffic. Most of the speed issues just come from things that block. |
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07:56
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brayden |
Like the password hashing. |
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07:56
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brayden |
had to knock the rounds down from the default of 80,000 to 20,000 for sha1 as it was just too slow otherwise. |
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07:57
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joepie93 |
brayden; aside from "you should really not be using sha1" |
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07:58
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joepie93 |
this is why I said event-based isn't always the solution :P |
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07:58
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joepie93 |
it may be for a lot of things, but not always |
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07:58
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brayden |
Bcrypt was too slow! |
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07:59
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brayden |
and if you knew what it used when it was just a proof of concept.. |
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07:59
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brayden |
SHA512 lol |
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07:59
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brayden |
no additional rounds or anything. just basically: hashlib.sha512(password).hexdigest() |
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08:02
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godane |
so i may have some good news |
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08:04
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godane |
i can get the digital planet audio files as flash video |
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08:05
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brayden |
that's a good thing? |
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08:05
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godane |
its very weird |
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08:05
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godane |
its a good thing cause there is no mp3 lift |
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08:05
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godane |
you can just past the older links from old rss and grab it |
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08:06
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godane |
this better then it just being gone |
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08:16
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yipdw |
for what it's worth, archivebot uses both event loops and threads |
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08:17
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yipdw |
the main distinction is whether a process is easier to model as an event loop or with blocking primitives |
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08:18
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yipdw |
so e.g. there's several pubsub receivers and each run in their own event loop |
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08:18
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yipdw |
doing it that way made each module a lot smaller |
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08:22
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yipdw |
that said, there's no reason why that couldn't be done with a single event loop, so |
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08:22
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yipdw |
horses for courses etc |
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08:26
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joepie93 |
"Secret NASA documents, how the Illuminati actually plan to kill us!!!!!!" |
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08:26
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* |
joepie93 sighs |
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08:26
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joepie93 |
I'm kind of starting to hate moderation |
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08:44
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Smiley |
o_O |
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12:01
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godane |
so i saved what i could of 2009 and 2010 digital planet podcasts at the moment |
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17:45
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dashcloud |
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