#archiveteam-bs 2013-11-05,Tue

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Time Nickname Message
00:15 🔗 SketchCow I am sure there is.
00:16 🔗 DFJustin saying there isn't is the fastest way to get someone to tell you what it is though
00:17 🔗 DFJustin it works better if you throw in a "Linux sucks" or two though
00:25 🔗 dashcloud the sheer amount of effort that's gone into the CD (anti-)copying war is amazing
00:32 🔗 odie5533 dashcloud: and it's all be basically for naught. Every major piece of media out there gets pirated.
00:32 🔗 SketchCow It's not for naught.
00:33 🔗 odie5533 The most effective front at this point is video game consoles. And even they've all be cracked.
00:33 🔗 SketchCow The purpose of copy protection is to slow down obvious piracy for the first six weeks of a product release.
00:33 🔗 odie5533 I mean long term
00:33 🔗 SketchCow Yes.
00:33 🔗 SketchCow But it's not for naught.
00:33 🔗 SketchCow Different goals.
00:34 🔗 dashcloud have you seen the amount of effort needed to defeat any modern copy protection system- it's now well beyond what a single person can do, and probably even a small team
00:34 🔗 odie5533 dashcloud: a lot of them seem to use the same protection systems, so once it's cracked by one it's cracked by all.
00:36 🔗 dashcloud I'm pretty sure the only reason blu-ray is as good as it is, is because there's a company in a legally untouchable country that can just throw crap loads of money and resources at it
00:37 🔗 odie5533 what country is that?
00:37 🔗 mistym odie5533: There was a really good piece on that on Gamasutra awhile back, about one of the PS1 Spyro games
00:37 🔗 dashcloud Antigua
00:37 🔗 mistym They put a lot of work into the copy protection system not with the plan to make it uncrackable, but to make it uncrackable within a few weeks
00:38 🔗 dashcloud they've been in a trade dispute with the US at the WTO for years over gambling
00:40 🔗 odie5533 dashcloud: what software do they produce?
00:40 🔗 dashcloud they make AnyDVD (HD) and CloneCD at least
00:50 🔗 mistym odie5533: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131439/keeping_the_pirates_at_bay.php
00:53 🔗 odie5533 Cracker arms race
00:56 🔗 odie5533 I wonder how long it would take today's crackers to crack.
01:05 🔗 touya cubase does a good job apparently
05:54 🔗 M1das_ morning
06:02 🔗 joepie93 morning!
09:13 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm updating t3 podcast
11:42 🔗 Schbirid working on a moddb downloader
11:51 🔗 Schbirid that was easy :o
12:01 🔗 joepie93 haha
12:01 🔗 joepie93 9 minutes
12:01 🔗 joepie93 classy
14:31 🔗 Schbirid 9 minutes for the poc but a script always takes longer
14:33 🔗 Schbirid and looking through the comments eg on http://www.moddb.com/games/quake-remake makes me want to delete all i just did and just run away as fast as i can
14:37 🔗 ersi Archive the stupid
14:37 🔗 ersi Make it last!
14:46 🔗 Schbirid more complicated than i thought :(
15:03 🔗 GLaDOS Quick, someone give me a way to start an email for someone that I haven't talked to in about 2 years
15:08 🔗 ersi "OH'HOY THERE!"
15:19 🔗 Schbirid GLaDOS: dear emily, i am finally sober. please forgive me.
15:19 🔗 GLaDOS ..HOW DID YOU KNOW
16:34 🔗 joepie93 hey, who was it that was uploading old Linux ISOs to IA again?
17:55 🔗 yipdw I really wonder about the github user accounts that just star and fork everything
17:55 🔗 yipdw like this one: https://github.com/pombredanne/repositories
17:55 🔗 yipdw I mean, (A) if that's a real human being, what the fuck are they doing
17:55 🔗 yipdw and (B) if that's a bot, what the fuck is it doing
17:57 🔗 yipdw it's like some sort of weird SEO-like thing
17:57 🔗 yipdw "look at all my contributions!!"
18:20 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, github can have some weirding
18:20 🔗 SketchCow Might be a bot.
18:35 🔗 ivan` yipdw: a forked repo is a backed-up repo, sort of
18:45 🔗 yipdw ivan`: a little bit
18:50 🔗 godane i'm going after the Japanese magazine Mac Fan
18:51 🔗 DFJustin sweet
18:52 🔗 godane i may only get magazines from 2013 so far
18:52 🔗 DFJustin seem to be a lot of Fan magazines there - MSX Fan, PC Engine Fan, ...
18:52 🔗 godane i do know that there are some from 2011 out there
18:53 🔗 DFJustin yeah I came across a reference to a 2011 Mac Fan cover dvd
18:53 🔗 godane http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?t=159433
18:59 🔗 godane DFJustin: looks like we have 2 MSX Fan Collections
19:01 🔗 DFJustin also nobody's fixed the IA bug that you can't Read Online things with wacky filenames https://archive.org/details/super-pc-engine-fan-1
19:01 🔗 godane one here that thing is from jason scott when he put tosecpix up: https://archive.org/details/msxfanjapanese
19:01 🔗 DFJustin oh wow I didn't know about that one

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