#archiveteam-bs 2013-11-28,Thu

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00:08 🔗 arkhive ex-parrot: DFJustin: What is the point of holding back these builds like a lot of developers do? Is it a legal agreement with publishers or what? The devs for development hell/vaporware/scrapped games know they have a fan base that would really like to see it. Maybe a stupid question. But asked anyway. :)
00:09 🔗 DFJustin in the context of arcade prototypes I've heard that you have to physically destroy the boards in order for it to qualify as a tax write-off
00:09 🔗 DFJustin but I don't know if that's really true or not
00:10 🔗 xmc lots of times you have to completely disable things for tax purposes
00:10 🔗 xmc phone museum in seattle got bunch of equipment with all the cables cut, had to fix them manually
00:10 🔗 DFJustin I think it's mostly big company bureaucracy, with smaller studios you do see more of that kind of stuff officially released, like LameDuke
00:10 🔗 xmc I think actually the measure is "costlier to repair than replace"
00:11 🔗 xmc much like a totaled car
00:11 🔗 DFJustin but in a big company it has to go through legal and 3 layers of management and there's no money angle
00:13 🔗 DFJustin all it takes is one guy in a suit going "it hasn't been tested or trademark cleared or etc, what if we get sued"
00:17 🔗 DFJustin and a lot of times the assets or concepts from canned games do get recycled in some form later
00:18 🔗 DFJustin so the default mentality is always going to be to hoard everything just in case
00:22 🔗 DFJustin like, 1 year later it's "well maybe it'll still come out at some point" and then 10 years later it's "the only copy is on a floppy disk behind the break room fridge demagnetizing"
00:27 🔗 DFJustin so there's usually not much of a window where it's both too old to ever be commercially valuable and new enough that anyone still has it or knows how to compile it
00:28 🔗 mistym DFJustin: Not to mention how widely middleware is used these days.
00:28 🔗 DFJustin ah yeah that's gonna be a big obstacle with modern games
00:28 🔗 DFJustin licensing all the third-party libraries
00:30 🔗 DFJustin MAMEDEV has access to some Bally prototypes like Ms. Gorf but they only exist as FORTH source code on 8" floppies so that's been an adventure
00:32 🔗 DFJustin and that's with the dev being cooperative
00:32 🔗 mistym Wow, yeah. That'd be a journey.
00:33 🔗 arkhive I need help please. I am learning Java and using Netbeans. I cannot figure out how to use my vector Vector<Game> favoriteGamesVector = new Vector<>(); with two parameters for the objects i create with it.. Game favGame1 = new Game(gameName, gameDescription); and use the vector and objects in a GUI. Have the gameName be in the JComboBox and when you select what game you want and click the JButton it will show the game descripti
00:33 🔗 arkhive in the JTextField. Can someone help me through private IRC message so we don't clog up -bs
00:33 🔗 arkhive It would be greatly appreciated. I've been looking online and cannot figure it out.
00:33 🔗 arkhive and my java book doesn't help with the vector use
00:35 🔗 arkhive I'll even give a Steam game if you help me figure it out. I have Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY, Red Faction Armegeddon and Guerrilla, and more. You can pick one. Halp! :)
03:12 🔗 xmc how the hell do you pronounce 'hyves'
03:15 🔗 BiggieJon i assume like hive, bee hive
03:46 🔗 dashcloud I've never realized until recently how much actual control Adobe has over the PDF format- it sucks, even more so because you don't actually notice it until you're hip-deep in documents that only Adobe renders perfectly
08:39 🔗 SketchCow ops please.
08:42 🔗 midas1 ops please.
08:43 🔗 midas1 .. failure to process
08:55 🔗 godane i was sleeply and this a picture my brother took when i came out the bathroom: https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1474389_10200158775132128_1802685941_n.jpg
08:56 🔗 SketchCow aww, you're adorable
09:04 🔗 midas1 fluffy beard
11:48 🔗 godane i updated tekzilla and engadget podcast collections
11:52 🔗 Smiley http://imageevent.com/afap/wallpapers/movies/thehangover?p=20
11:52 🔗 Smiley [08:55:41] < godane> i was sleeply and this a picture my brother took when i came out the bathroom:
11:52 🔗 Smiley https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1474389_10200158775132128_1802685941_n.jpg
11:52 🔗 Smiley YIKES
11:53 🔗 Smiley we found him!
13:06 🔗 godane so i'm using my new bluray discs and i think there sucking
13:07 🔗 godane like i can't play the media on the freaking discs right after burning
13:09 🔗 godane i may know why
13:10 🔗 godane ok now transfer rate jump
13:22 🔗 godane now this is funny
13:22 🔗 godane i'm having problems with RITEX/BR3
13:22 🔗 godane i have been using BR2 before
13:25 🔗 godane i'm thinking it was the drive going crazy when burning by defaul
13:25 🔗 godane it thought it was a 10x disk
13:26 🔗 godane but its a 6x disk
13:26 🔗 godane also i never burn anything past 4x setting
13:27 🔗 godane the drive sounded like it chainsaw when burn that disk
13:48 🔗 midas1 lol godane
13:54 🔗 balrog godane: any firmware updates for the drive available?
13:56 🔗 godane i'm burning another disk at 4x to see how it goes
13:57 🔗 godane i think the problem was it was trying to go too fast
13:57 🔗 godane and this is a external drive on usb 2.0 speeds
13:58 🔗 godane i can say that these discs color is different
13:59 🔗 godane its more a black color
13:59 🔗 godane the other ones i have burned have more of a violent color
14:00 🔗 godane *violet
14:15 🔗 godane this disk is working way better then before
14:15 🔗 godane it sha256sum 4 files so far
14:15 🔗 godane and 2 are the big tekzilla hd files
14:16 🔗 godane i couldn't even play it really before
14:50 🔗 godane so everything checkout on that disk
15:18 🔗 godane so i just seen a 23andme ad on tv
16:01 🔗 godane so i'm going to see about grabbing the http://ftp.futurenet.com/ files
16:02 🔗 godane i'm using google to see about finding those pdf files
16:04 🔗 godane this sort of is a trick url since this a ftp and http version of ftp.futurenet.com
16:08 🔗 arkiver hm
16:09 🔗 arkiver I don't have the permission to see http://ftp.futurenet.com/
16:09 🔗 arkiver what's in that ftp server?
16:18 🔗 Schbirid the f.u.t.u.r.e
16:36 🔗 godane the ftp site has tons of old trailers in it
16:37 🔗 godane that is too big for me to grab
16:50 🔗 arkiver hmm
16:50 🔗 arkiver maybe I can help you
16:50 🔗 arkiver how much would you need?
16:51 🔗 arkiver I still have a few TB's here not filled
16:52 🔗 arkiver godane (just mentioning your name so you would read this)
18:12 🔗 godane this is me in my thanksgiving hat: https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1486833_10200162250259004_2113868587_n.jpg
18:25 🔗 arkiver haha cool picture!
18:25 🔗 arkiver were you also the guy in that video with the top hat on talking about the archive team?
18:25 🔗 arkiver (don't have the link here...)
18:28 🔗 godane i'm not that guy
18:28 🔗 arkiver ah hmm
18:28 🔗 godane SketchCow is the guy your talking about
18:28 🔗 arkiver ah
18:28 🔗 arkiver well
18:28 🔗 godane the one with a top hat
18:28 🔗 arkiver thought you were that one, your beard looked a bit like it I thought
18:29 🔗 arkiver SketchCow is the creater of the archiveteam right?
18:29 🔗 godane i think so
18:30 🔗 DFJustin creator and mascot
18:30 🔗 arkiver and how old is the archiveteam already now?
18:35 🔗 DFJustin http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1664
18:37 🔗 arkiver wow
18:37 🔗 arkiver 3 years?
18:37 🔗 arkiver 4*
18:37 🔗 arkiver :p
18:37 🔗 arkiver I thought it was a lot older...
18:42 🔗 godane has anyone figured out what cause that fire at IA scanning building?
19:12 🔗 SketchCow Passion
19:29 🔗 instence lol
19:31 🔗 instence "I'm getting so much scanning done today, I'm on fire."
19:31 🔗 instence "No, dude seriously, you ARE on fire!"
19:57 🔗 ersi They were scanning items too quickly
19:57 🔗 ersi too much friction >_> <_<
19:59 🔗 BlueMax you say dat like it's a baaaaad thing
20:07 🔗 Schbirid does someone have a really old browser running (netscape 4 etc) and could take a shot of https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/hosted.planetquake.gamespy.com/spq2/quake1/index.htm for me including GUI? :)
20:08 🔗 mistym Schbirid: Oh wooow, that design is classic
20:08 🔗 Schbirid the good old days of accessible, fast, readable websites
22:17 🔗 ersi http://blog.hackapp.com/2013/11/how-you-should-never-design-your-app.html
22:17 🔗 ersi lol'd
22:20 🔗 DFJustin looooool
22:49 🔗 balrog LOL!
22:57 🔗 BlueMax sweet jesus
23:45 🔗 balrog the story behind the J.D.Salinger "leak" is quite intriguing
23:45 🔗 balrog basically this has been under our noses since 1999
23:46 🔗 balrog the book that got posted showed up on ebay about 5 times in the past year, most in the past few months but once a year ago

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