[06:49] godane: downloading http://www.r2.co.nz/ [06:49] :P) [06:49] :)* [06:55] good luck with that [07:01] thank, you please don't download from the site right. [07:01] now* [07:01] it could become even slower [07:01] will let you know about my progress... :P [07:02] based on what i can tell i can download 10 videos at 30kbytes [07:03] so its limited per a download thread or something [13:41] what's this 1000-year m-disc stuff? [13:42] !a https://accounts.eamythic.com/ [13:44] oops [13:44] sorry [13:47] joepie91: the ones made our of some rock ? [13:48] BiggieJon: moment, I've run into two stores selling it now [13:48] let me dig up a link [13:49] BiggieJon: http://opussupplies.m11.mailplus.nl/genericservice/code/servlet/React?encId=StNCvHjFK9JGcFP&actId=31185438&command=openhtml [13:49] scroll down about halfway [13:49] the graph [13:49] it's being floated as a 'consumer archiving' method [13:49] saying "up to 100 yrs lifespan" [13:49] 1000 [13:49] er [13:49] http://www.mdisc.com/what-is-mdisc/ [13:49] hm, yes [13:50] seems made out of rock? idk [13:50] it's suspiciously cheap [13:50] so I'm very very skeptical [13:51] the idea of using some rock-like metal to burn the disk does sound like a better idea then dyes [13:52] here: http://www.databyteshop.nl/shop/detail.asp?bron=main&Product_rg=%7B87DD09CE-C78E-4C9E-93AD-1D9360BDA6F7%7D [13:52] 14,45 euro for an M-DISC burner? [13:52] wtf? [14:20] seems a little low [14:26] BiggieJon: yes, that's why i was wondering [14:27] but I know that that store is a legitimate store (I've bought stuff there before) [14:27] and in 10 years nobody makes the damn thing anymore [14:27] and the opus price isn't too far off [14:27] also [14:27] http://tweakers.net/nieuws/92928/hyves-gaat-definitief-offline.html?showReaction=6595499#r_6595499 [14:27] translation: "I'm regretting deleting my account back then... otherwise I could've downloaded my own content now :'(" [14:28] cant save the trashbin [14:29] joepie91: can you check your pm about the sql box? [14:32] http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_b25c9a30-7242-11de-9feb-001cc4c03286.html [14:39] !ao https://twitter.com/warherald/ [14:39] shit [14:39] again [14:39] srry [14:48] acquihire of eBuddy by Booking.com [14:48] err [14:48] wrong channel [14:48] acquihire of eBuddy by Booking.com [14:48] argh [14:48] WHYYYY [14:48] * joepie91 slaps self [14:49] sticky window problems today ? [14:54] BiggieJon: just some misclicks [16:27] i'm upload twilight 24 cd set [16:28] :) [16:28] to the archive? [16:28] send me the page when finished [16:42] * joepie91 high-fives godane [16:43] arkiver: he's been uploading quite a few twilights, actually [16:45] i also upload a lot of crazybytes cds too [17:04] fuck, unison is so damn stupid. added a new directory on my usb stick, ran unison, it did not notice it. copied the dir manually, re-ran unison. now it noticed it as new dir on the stick and wants to transfer it [17:15] yeah I used to use SyncToy but if you copy a directory, delete some files from the destination, then run it again, it doesn't notice that the files are missing, only new files from the source [17:16] that's why I like freefilesync, you can do dead simple "is this file there or not" logic [17:16] yeah [17:16] i will play with that more [17:16] how does it handle timestamp conflicts in general? does it always assume "new = better"? [17:17] only thing I don't like is that it doesn't detect moves and renames unless you use a database [17:19] I think it's just new = better, I mainly use it for one-way backup jobs [20:11] wtf wget. --directory-prefix and -O do not work together?! [20:12] "wget --directory-prefix=DIR --output-document=FILE google.com" downloads to ./FILE , not ./DIR/FILE [20:12] is there any workaround short of mkdiring? [20:20] So I had an interesting moment at work today. I've been working on restoring information on some sites in years gone by, and we realised that some information was just gone from a database. We talked about various ways of figuring it out again, entering it based on old emails and so on, and then I realised. "Check Internet Archive." Sure enough, it was there, and we got it back by looking at a page on the Wayback Machine. [20:28] w0rp: that's reason why we do this archiving work... :D [20:28] Schbirid: uh... [20:28] i am mkdiring now [20:28] I'm not sure why you expect it to work together? [20:28] :p [20:28] they are mutually exclusive features [20:28] how that [20:28] one is to say "hey, save whatever I find to this exact file path" [20:29] one is to say "hey, make a file for every file I recursively encounter and drop them all in this directory path" [20:29] the other is to say prefix this directory to all your file paths [20:29] --output-document is what you'd use for a single file [20:29] --directory-prefix is what you'd use for recursive [20:29] if your use case, not in mine :P [20:30] yes, but why would you have a --directory-prefix if you can also just specify the full path (including directory prefix) in --output-document? [20:30] w0rp: I had something vaguely similar when I got fed up waiting for Adaptec to fix their broken FTP server. suddenly realised I should check Wayback, and sure enough the drivers I needed were there :D [20:30] because wget does not create directories [20:30] if you set -O nonexistantdir/file [20:30] Schbirid: creating directories doesn't seem to me to be the task of wget? [20:30] like, at all [20:30] I mean, that's pretty much the UNIX philosophy [20:30] do one thing, and do it well [20:31] wget does downloading and that's all it should really do [20:31] * Schbirid starts picking at joepie91's tree [20:31] mkdir is for making dirs [20:31] and I'd be surprised that --directory-prefix *does* make directories - it really shouldn't, other than *maybe* the very last path segment [20:31] yeah, so why have --directory-prefix create that dir then? it should fail [20:31] haha [20:31] in the same way it creates a file [20:31] but even that... err [20:31] Schbirid: the problem is that you end up recreating functionality over and over again [20:32] i get that but still, i dont get why -O overrides a simultaneous dir prefix [20:32] what if you want to save it into a directory-prefix but want to set certain permissions? should we add a switch for that also? etc. [20:32] Schbirid; simple; higher specificity [20:32] (is that a word?) [20:32] more specific options override less specific options [20:33] we could argue what is more specific [20:33] --directory-prefix is directory-level-specific, --output-document is file-level-specific [20:33] files live in directories, thus --output-document is more specific [20:33] :P [20:33] i'll just say "you are right" [20:34] Schbirid: if you don't think I'm right, either argue against it or don't cast a judgment on it at all... saying somebody is right when they're not (or when you think they're not), means nobody wins :P [20:34] er [20:34] don't... state? a judgment at all? [20:34] not sure how to word that [20:34] and I mean "wins" there in the "gain" sense, not in the "is right" sense [20:34] this is the internet, we both win and are grumpy [20:35] see above :P [20:35] :D [20:35] nobody has a benefit from you saying I'm right when you think I'm not [20:35] neither me nor you nor anybody else in this channel who's probably going "wtf" at this discussion right now [20:35] :D [20:36] no one has a benefit of discussing this either so there is no point butting our heads any more [20:40] apt observation :P [20:41] semi offtopic, but is anyone aware of a mod for squid that saves proxied pages into warc files? [20:41] nothing is offtopic in the offtopic channel :) [20:41] :-) [20:42] i find myself trying to recall some search keywords from time to time just to recall a webpage I visited in the past [20:43] ersi: archiving is! [20:44] Laverne: could probably hack something up with warc-proxy or WarcProxy [20:44] I always forget which is which [20:44] nice, thats written in python as well. :) [20:48] i kinda want to record all my internet traffic [20:48] joepie91: you're right [20:50] * joepie91 throws an arbitrary unpleasant type of food at ersi [20:50] arbitary unpleasant, not arbitrarily unpleasant. [20:55] joepie91: you're arbitrarily right [20:56] already downloaded 34 warc's sinds I started downloading warc's :D [20:56] will upload them tomorrow [21:00] :) [21:09] only bad thing about WarcProxy is it doesn't work well with POSTs [21:09] took me a little while to figure out wtf exactly was happening [22:54] huh [22:54] i missed this news [22:54] http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Internet-Archive-s-S-F-office-damaged-in-fire-4960703.php [22:54] I learned of it from a tweet from rick prelinger [22:54] hah, you must have been quite busy that day [22:55] (I was looking back at old tweets on my phone)