| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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05:57
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godane |
hey everyone |
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06:12
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xmc |
hey godane |
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06:18
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BlueMax |
hey chronomex and godane |
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06:47
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godane |
so g4rewind is starting to upload stuff again |
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06:48
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godane |
and i got at least 2 new episodes i have not seen anywhere else |
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06:48
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DFJustin |
<joepie91> what's the status on winamp forum archiving? |
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06:48
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godane |
one is a call for help from 03.19.2004 |
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06:48
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godane |
and another is 10play episode |
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07:36
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joepie91 |
for context, somebody actually mentioned the Winamp forums going away |
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07:36
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joepie91 |
in another channel |
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07:36
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joepie91 |
unrelated to AT |
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07:36
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joepie91 |
so looks like even now, there's some concern about it |
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07:42
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: have a link handy to a collection of stuff that runs in JSMESS on archive.org? |
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08:01
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godane |
joepie91: i grabbed over 400000 thead ids and there pages |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
รยรย รยชรยณรยชรยฎรยฏรย
รยงรย
รยฑรยรยรยงรยรยงรยณรยฑรยฆรยรย รยงรยรยดรยงรยช รยรยงรยรยรยรยณ รยจรยรย รยรยรยชรยฌรยณรยณ!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย! |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? |
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09:00
๐
|
jbh89seut |
Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
รยรย รยชรยณรยชรยฎรยฏรย
รยงรย
รยฑรยรยรยงรยรยงรยณรยฑรยฆรยรย รยงรยรยดรยงรยช รยรยงรยรยรยรยณ รยจรยรย รยรยรยชรยฌรยณรยณ!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย! |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
|
jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? |
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09:00
๐
|
jbh89seut |
Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
รยรย รยชรยณรยชรยฎรยฏรย
รยงรย
รยฑรยรยรยงรยรยงรยณรยฑรยฆรยรย รยงรยรยดรยงรยช รยรยงรยรยรยรยณ รยจรยรย รยรยรยชรยฌรยณรยณ!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย!รย! |
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09:00
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
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09:00
๐
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jbh89seut |
WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING |
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09:12
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BlueMax |
I have no words |
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09:23
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Coderjoe |
i'm mildly amused at what happened to my timestamps on those right-to-left lines |
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09:27
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BlueMax |
lol |
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09:35
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|
ivan` |
do atlogbot record everything we type?!?!? |
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09:36
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ivan` |
his IP is in Cairo |
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09:54
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|
joepie91 |
wow |
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09:54
๐
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joepie91 |
so |
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09:55
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|
joepie91 |
we get politically motivated privacy-awareness spam now? |
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09:55
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joepie91 |
that's new |
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10:02
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BiggieJon |
http://www.musingsfromsussex.com/2011/10/04/cartoon-if-youre-not-paying-for-the-product/ |
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10:03
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: that has been around for some time now :) |
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10:03
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BiggieJon |
apparently _some_ people arent aware of tht concept :) |
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10:03
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joepie91 |
oh, they are |
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10:03
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joepie91 |
they just don't care |
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10:04
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joepie91 |
in part because they are under the impression that things like marketing are perfectly normal |
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10:04
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joepie91 |
marketing and advertising * |
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10:04
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joepie91 |
along with the idea that that's the only way to do things |
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10:05
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BiggieJon |
my poiunt is both facebook and twitter are private for porfit companies |
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10:05
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BiggieJon |
if you dont like what they do with your data, dont submit data to them |
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10:06
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Coderjoe |
FB and twitter are private for-profit entities where the user is the product and advertisers are the customer |
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10:06
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: sure, but try explaining that to your grandmother who "just wants to share her pictures with you" |
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10:06
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joepie91 |
and who is convinced that "you shouldn't make such a big deal out of it" |
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10:06
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BiggieJon |
grandma I can deal with, it's the revolutionary countries that are upset their only convenient new outlet is run by a US entity |
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10:07
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BiggieJon |
*news |
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10:07
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: hmm |
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10:07
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joepie91 |
? |
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10:08
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BiggieJon |
people in oppressed countries want to use twitter/FB/micro blogging sites to get their word out, but few of them are run in countries outside the US or western europe |
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10:09
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BiggieJon |
I cant even being to understand middle eastern politics, mostly because I cant even get a good idea of what it is they are asking for |
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10:10
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Coderjoe |
mmm |
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10:10
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Coderjoe |
wonderful |
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10:10
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Coderjoe |
http://www.timmins.net/2013/12/11/how-att-verizon-and-comcast-are-working-together-to-screw-you-by-discontinuing-landline-service/ |
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10:10
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Coderjoe |
:-\ |
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10:11
๐
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BiggieJon |
ok, but what if we changed the law to make 100% cell coverage the law |
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10:12
๐
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BiggieJon |
dont want to bury copper to every last farmhouse in montana ? great, just be sure a cell towr covers it |
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10:12
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Coderjoe |
that still gives up a wired broadband option |
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10:12
๐
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BiggieJon |
if you are that far rural, you cant get anything ovr copper anyway |
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10:13
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Coderjoe |
this applies to more than just rural |
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10:14
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BiggieJon |
I'm lucky to be able to get pretty good cable internet where I live, but my neighborhood had to agree toa 20 year contract with teh local cable company before they ever ran fiber out here a few years ago |
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10:15
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Coderjoe |
this includes removing any remaining requirement for them to lease lines to other companies |
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10:16
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BiggieJon |
the arguement is tht the old copper is 50+ years old now and too expensive to maintain, we need to move on |
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10:16
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Coderjoe |
which will kill any remaining ability to have competitors to the local phone company and local cable company |
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10:16
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BiggieJon |
cable was always a monopoly |
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10:17
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Coderjoe |
this will also allow them to kill off other wireless providers |
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10:17
๐
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Coderjoe |
by requiring them to run their own lines to their cell towers, rather than allowing them to lease from the ILEC |
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10:18
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BiggieJon |
cell towers use fiber anyway, there hasnt been enough bandwidth over copper to run a cell tower since 2G days |
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10:18
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Coderjoe |
you're making all the same "this isn't a big deal" arguments at&t and verizon want everybody to believe |
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10:18
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BiggieJon |
it's a big deal, but you have to look at what you are asking |
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10:18
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Coderjoe |
but in the details there are competition-crushing clauses |
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10:19
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Coderjoe |
this is not just about copper |
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10:19
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BiggieJon |
maintain old infrastructure at a very high cost, or force innivation and move ahead |
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10:19
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Coderjoe |
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT COPPER |
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10:21
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BiggieJon |
not sure about where you live, but most larger cities have several fiber providors that are not ILEC/CLEC |
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10:23
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Coderjoe |
CLEC doesn't matter in this, either |
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10:24
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Coderjoe |
seriously, read the article |
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10:25
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BiggieJon |
I've been aware of this for several years, this is not new |
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10:29
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BiggieJon |
I would be very interested to know how many 3rd party wireless companies get their tower uplinks from an ILEC |
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10:30
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BiggieJon |
in any area that Sprint has upgraded to their new network, they own all the fiber to the tower |
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10:30
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: time to start marketing meshnets? |
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10:30
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joepie91 |
er |
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10:30
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joepie91 |
Coderjoe * |
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10:37
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BiggieJon |
I like the idea :) |
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10:37
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BiggieJon |
several technologies have been proppsed, some tested in limited areas |
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10:38
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BiggieJon |
in teh US at least, no idea what is being done in EU |
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10:39
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m1das |
in .nl networks have to be open for other operators. except for cable for some reason i cant remember |
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10:39
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m1das |
but then KPN bought all the other operators so kinda useless |
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10:40
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BiggieJon |
is it possible for anotehr operator to exist or is it so prohibitive that none could ever compete ? |
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10:47
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ersi |
I'm happy to not live in the US ^_^ |
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10:48
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: the key thing that many people miss, is that meshnets do not necessarily have to be all-wireless |
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10:49
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ersi |
hehe, yeah |
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10:49
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joepie91 |
<m1das>but then KPN bought all the other operators so kinda useless |
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10:49
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joepie91 |
lol reggefiber |
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10:58
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m1das |
yeah good example |
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11:19
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joepie91 |
m1das: did I show you my fancy new monitoring yet? |
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11:19
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joepie91 |
well, new-ish |
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11:24
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m1das |
show me! :p |
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11:37
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joepie91 |
m1das: first, http://i.imgur.com/70Q6X5O.jpg |
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11:37
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joepie91 |
then, the promised monitoring system: http://owely.com/8oiBXk :P |
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11:40
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Coderjoe |
in utah, there was an initiative to have the municipality own the fiber (with a company hired to manage it) and the ISPs would lease access on behalf of the customer |
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11:41
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Coderjoe |
sadly, i don't think it survived, because of hatred for the government being involved or something |
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11:41
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Smiley |
lols |
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11:42
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Coderjoe |
and/or comcast coming in and convincing the govt officials it wasn't needed bacause they were there |
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11:51
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joepie91 |
here, have some holiday pics: http://imgur.com/a/QTOob |
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12:02
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BlueMax |
no picture of you on a beach snuggling a laptop with geocities on it? |
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12:02
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* |
BlueMax disappoint |
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12:19
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m1das |
awesome joepie91 :P |
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12:19
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m1das |
and wtf @ tipi? :P |
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15:32
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joepie91 |
m1das: http://campspirit.nl/ :) |
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15:35
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|
* |
m1das checks it out |
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15:35
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m1das |
btw, any updates on the case? |
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21:18
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ersi |
http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html |
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22:07
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godane |
so i got a toshiba 2tb hard drive |
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22:28
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BiggieJon |
more storage is always good |
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22:28
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BiggieJon |
I want to see one of those new 6TB helium filled drives, dont want to know what it costs |
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22:44
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ivan` |
$900 lol http://discountechnology.com/Hitachi-Ultrastar-He6-0F18370-HUS726060ALS640-6TB-SAS-Hard-Drive |
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22:44
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BiggieJon |
not bad really |
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22:52
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godane |
you could get 6 x 3TB for that price |
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22:53
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BiggieJon |
everything new is expensive for a while |
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22:53
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godane |
true |
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22:53
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BiggieJon |
I just hope people dont try to use RAID on a drive that big |
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22:54
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godane |
also there is at least one hard drive thats past the $300 mark |
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22:54
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BiggieJon |
if you are buying enterprise class SAS6 drives, most of then are over $300 |
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22:54
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godane |
ok |
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22:55
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BiggieJon |
for normal people tho, most drives are well under that |
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22:55
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BiggieJon |
i get expensive toys at work :) |
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22:56
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godane |
most consumer based drives lasted as good as a enterprise class drive for at least the first 3 years |
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22:58
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godane |
also i think only half of my new drive is going to be full of revision3 stuff |
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22:59
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godane |
also i will save 600gb off my glenn beck drive |
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22:59
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godane |
and another 400gb off my main 3tb drive |
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23:01
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BiggieJon |
i'm working on pulling downa copy of the geocities torrent on one of my seedboxes, the number of available fast seeders has dropped off to unreliable levels |
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23:02
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BiggieJon |
I'm surprised there are still people trying to download the 650GB torrent |
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23:09
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DFJustin |
is it possible to seed from the parts at https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities or are they split up differently |
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23:11
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BiggieJon |
i couldnt find the torrent file |
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23:11
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BiggieJon |
for the IA archive that is |
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23:18
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DFJustin |
I mean to ddl the files from ia and use them to seed the torrent |
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23:19
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BiggieJon |
there are a few people seeding, but the good ones only seed a few hours a day |
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23:19
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BiggieJon |
right now I'm peaking at 2MB/s, so not bad |