[00:06] such tired [01:39] april 1st i'm announcing that i'm shutting down my dynamic infinitely recursive link generation service [01:42] uploaded: https://archive.org/details/techtv-guide-to-home-networking-broadband-and-wireless [06:58] i'm starting to upload more of my maximum cds [06:59] one dvd from 2006-03 is going up [08:15] uploaded: https://archive.org/details/dvdrom-maximum-dvd-2006-03 [10:10] how can i check the total number of items and their size i uploaded to IA? [10:43] aw yeah [10:43] :D [10:43] midas et al: my ancient PS/2 barcode scanner still works with a PS/2 to USB cable [10:44] so I can now barcode my archived discs [10:58] i bought a cheapass barcode scanner from DX a while back, perfect tool :D [11:00] midas: this is just an old POS one [11:00] POS as in Point Of Sale [11:00] lol [11:00] not as in Piece Of Shit [11:00] http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCD-HANDSCANNER-BARCODEREADER-BTS-1069-BTS1069-/230598372431 [11:00] this one [11:00] except I've had mine for years [11:05] i have this one: http://dx.com/p/acan-8100-short-range-handheld-usb-barcode-scanner-210cm-cable-length-25058#.UxBtgfl5PVU [11:05] only i paid like 10 bucks for it :p [11:06] next one will be laser tho, scanning distance is horrible [11:08] midas: similar to mine, except that one has less lights [11:09] hah yeah, it's shitty but still works for what i need it to do [11:17] chances are that the barcodes will remain readable long after the discs aren't. :) [11:18] antomatic: don't remind me :( [11:18] though I have to say, the discs have kept up well so far [11:19] had a CD-R with RollerCoaster Tycoon on it [11:19] that's like... 15 years old? [11:19] it still works fine [11:23] midas: ~2cm straight scanning distance [11:23] under angle it's around 1.5 [11:23] not -too- bad for a CCD scanner [11:26] true [11:26] for what you need it to do [11:27] wheee megawarc gives tmux a fizzy feeling [11:29] * ivan` discovers --truncate-output is only in wget-lua [12:24] https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 [12:26] burnnnn [12:27] joepie91: http://tweakers.net/aanbod/638704/250-+-pc-titels.html [12:28] something for you maybe? [12:33] midas: yes, but monies [12:33] also [12:33] "alleen ophalen" [12:35] if you mail the guy, ill see if i can pick it up, but only if it's free ;) [12:35] midas: impressive collection, thoigh [12:35] heh [12:35] idk, I doubt that he'd give it away for free [12:36] maybe he will let us copy it first [12:37] midas: I prefer having originals though [12:44] midas: sent him a message, indicating I'd also be interested in 'useless' CDs [12:44] shovelware etc. [12:45] we'll see [12:46] with copy i mean, getting all the cd's and he will need to wait for a couple of months before he gets them back :p [12:49] joepie91: do you have tracker access? [12:49] midas: I don't think I have full access [12:49] but not sure [12:49] join #canvas [12:49] and with "having originals" I mean having the originals stored in my CD storage for indefinite time :) [14:33] joepie91: explain to me, should we still trust TOR? [14:35] midas: the answer is "the trust status of TOR has not changed" [14:35] you can either trust peer review of the codebase, or review it yourself [14:35] conceptually, assuming the code does what it is supposed to do, TOR is as secure as you're going to get [14:39] ok, biggest issue is still the browser + plugins above tor [15:05] midas: yes. [15:05] and this will sadly always remain a problem, until society at large starts giving a damn about security [15:08] yea or giving a damn about many other things instead of blindly going by what's "trendy" [15:09] lollololol while the NSA stuff has helped, i think that's almost hopeless. [15:43] im hiding my personal data with massive amounts of rsync data from you guys ;-) [15:49] Tor is a great example of failure that's worth studying. [15:49] It has the same issues that PGP and others did. [15:49] It was a safe, in the house [15:49] So watch who goes into the house [15:50] Watch when they haul out the safe [15:50] Watch who comes in and doesn't leave the house, and who leaves but you never saw them come in. [15:50] The harvard police just watched who had Tor running [15:53] tor or a different service should be always active, ipv6-sec or something [15:54] as far as i know, if you keep it really safe then they can't do anything to you, but the news about the breach was by users who haven't watched out [15:54] and who used that browser with javascript and cookies that tracked them down [15:56] i'm not the expert on this and i'm not using tor, only tried many years ago but i know enough from some guys [15:59] A lot of the interest in this sort of stuff is by people who've never had a finger broken in someone else's process of information retrieval. [16:04] well if someone passwords their stuff and dont run windows machines and encrypt everything and then would run tor and ensure everything is in order i dont think they would be able to do much [16:05] but very little people go through trouble of arranging that anyway [16:06] most of them just choose easy security solutions, which i myself fell to often, but i don't have this really technical mind anyway but that's not an excuse [16:07] but mosly you get naive people downloading the "tor bundle" which has been made more and more "easier to use" [16:09] also, that flowerett "thing", it's a spambot or something or joins channels to leave, he's constantly being banned from another channel i am on [16:09] or he just spies on shit [16:09] better watch out for that guy [16:09] he joins/leaves [16:12] the issue is they flipped the default in the browser bundle between versions so that javascript was on when it used to be off [16:12] without really announcing it [16:12] also "indigo@" i suspect it might be a bot of a certain indigo guy i once crossed my paths with in 2006.. [16:12] yea but [16:12] so unless you are paranoid and check all the options every time [16:12] the users should check that [16:12] its not being paranoid [16:13] its not a fuckin toy [16:13] to be just run and used quickly [16:13] but they made it that way due to complaints [16:13] but thats the wrong approach [16:13] I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a security minded bundle to not make a huge change like that [16:14] Exactly, surely a browser being used in that mode should be thoroughly ruggedised to ask for confirmation of EVERY SINGLE cookie and script, not just run on 'full auto' all the time. [16:14] everything can ultimately be blamed on you if you don't source audit all of your software and compile it yourself etc [16:14] its not a huge change, its just that it was made on by default instead, but one should watch out [16:15] but yeah [17:25] SketchCow: why no French computer magazines? [17:27] abandonware-magazines.org got really butthurt when he started reuploading their scans [17:28] which is hilarious [17:30] attributing the scanners would do a lot of good [17:32] i didn't know that scan came from abandonware-magazines.org [17:32] i got from a torrent [17:42] SketchCow: again whats the problem with French computer magazines? [17:49] DFJustin: umm, they didn't own the copyrights on the content, did they? [17:53] no [17:56] then why do we care [18:34] We care for several reasons. [18:35] Sharing is caring, we often share, so we care [18:35] That is straight-up logic [18:36] 1. The site has been negotiating with a range of magazine publishers, and us mirroring all the content was threatening to kibosh those arrangements. [18:37] 2. I already had all the stuff by the time they got angry. The collections are dark but I have them [18:37] 3. We have plenty enough to add without worrying about that active and functional group's efforts [18:37] There. [18:38] Some of you might think I go soft here and there, but it's when there's no immediate example of something needing to be up on archive.org RIGHT NOW, especially when a non-public backup is there on the site in case we need to make it live. [18:38] I could have the 500+ issues public within 20 minutes. It's just being good right now with France's weird situation. [18:41] ok [18:43] If abandonware is getting pissy over someone mirroring their shit, they're doing it for the wrong reasons [18:43] If you care about preservation, be happy that someone is helping, not territorial [18:43] so this a problem with abandonware or the publisher [18:51] SketchCow: ah that all makes sense. [18:51] #1 and #2 interact quite nicely. [18:54] This is not my usual outlook .... [18:54] ... but we're talking about the French here. [18:54] Also, you can't pull off black trousers and white socks. http://imgur.com/gallery/fgmmYO6 [18:55] Not clicking any SketchCow links where he mentions removing clothing [18:55] Oh, wrong context of pull off, fuck it [18:56] http://i.imgur.com/ZcUS4Ed.jpg [20:12] SketchCow: can i get access to geekbeat.tv and geek beat tv reviews? [20:13] What collection names? [20:13] geekbeattv [20:14] Done [20:14] and geekbeattvreviews: https://archive.org/details/geekbeattvreviews [20:14] also there is like a 145 items in geekbeattv that should be in geekbeattvreviews [20:15] these items: https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Ageekbeattv%20geekbeattvreviews [20:18] All 325 are being shoved over, now. [20:24] its 145 [20:24] not 325 [20:24] in less you mean geekbeattvreviews has 325 items [20:42] Boop [20:43] We'll sort it out, it's just files. [21:09] seriously that Flowerett guy...he's creepy [21:10] all he does is join channels randomly and leaves, possibly gathering some info along the way [21:10] and one of the bots on one channel detect him as "spambot" anyway [21:16] arnez.si do not seem to exists [21:17] so his hostname is fake [21:17] what can that mean then? [21:18] that efnet security check are lame [21:18] it is someone who control the ptr associated whith his ip [21:18] and he is faking it [21:19] (that's why you are supposed to validate the ptr ...) [21:19] got one ip, ask for reverse.ip.in-addr.arpa [21:19] hmm [21:19] then check if this host exists and point to the same ip [21:19] if not, something is wrong [21:20] * nico remember one time when i was in the network team of a congress [21:20] and we set the ptr of some router [21:21] to gate(lastoctal).collect.nsa.gov [21:21] well, this guy is certainly wrong...what is he? is it a bot or what, i've been seeing him for some time joining and leaving channels at about the same interval he stays [21:21] hmm [21:21] got some people worried :) [21:22] lot of people have bot that do that [21:22] what's the purpose [21:22] joining, doing a WHO #channel, leaving [21:22] collect some big data [21:22] hmm [21:22] you don't know what you seek [21:22] so you collect everything [21:23] who know, maybe you will find a connection between [21:23] still it gets me a bit worried, because i used to know this "indigo" guy way back [21:23] and his hostname says "indigo" [21:23] lot of program are called indigo [21:24] irc have a very exposed topology [21:25] he was a "black hat" though, i didn't like the guy and one time he decided to wreak a bit of havoc with my friends servers etc [21:25] so i wonder if this is any way related to that guy [21:25] the world is really small [21:25] you see the same people everywhere [21:26] he used to change his nicks very often or registering himself under multiple names but usually sharing a similar theme, which i could see among the other things, but who knows, i can't know for sure this is related to him [21:27] and if it is then it's been since 2006 or so since i last heard of this guy before [21:29] i remmeber when i exposed him somewhere he referred to me afterwards as "miserable little mook" [21:29] nice [22:34] again? sigh [22:38] Leo_TCK: you can talk to an ircop [22:38] a little k-line on @*.arnez.si will resolve this [22:45] or [22:45] SketchCow: can you spread ops around [22:45] we can solve this by just banning it [22:46] it's already banned in e.g. #archivebot [22:47] hmm [22:48] did it join there too or not? [22:48] at #archivebot [22:48] yes [22:48] ivan banhammered it [22:48] I had no idea what it was until then [22:48] hmm ah ok [22:51] https://www.google.com/search?q=dial-up.arnez.si&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:fr:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a [22:52] SketchCow: i think the collections are fine now [22:52] http://forum.efnet.org/oper-spy-bots-t1580.html [22:59] hmm [23:00] tomarrow will be my birthday [23:13] SketchCow: is it ok to PM you?