| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:06
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xmc |
such tired |
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01:39
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RedType |
april 1st i'm announcing that i'm shutting down my dynamic infinitely recursive link generation service |
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01:42
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/techtv-guide-to-home-networking-broadband-and-wireless |
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06:58
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|
godane |
i'm starting to upload more of my maximum cds |
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06:59
🔗
|
godane |
one dvd from 2006-03 is going up |
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08:15
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/dvdrom-maximum-dvd-2006-03 |
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10:10
🔗
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Schbirid |
how can i check the total number of items and their size i uploaded to IA? |
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10:43
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joepie91 |
aw yeah |
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10:43
🔗
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joepie91 |
:D |
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10:43
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joepie91 |
midas et al: my ancient PS/2 barcode scanner still works with a PS/2 to USB cable |
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10:44
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joepie91 |
so I can now barcode my archived discs |
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10:58
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|
midas |
i bought a cheapass barcode scanner from DX a while back, perfect tool :D |
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11:00
🔗
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joepie91 |
midas: this is just an old POS one |
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11:00
🔗
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joepie91 |
POS as in Point Of Sale |
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11:00
🔗
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joepie91 |
lol |
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11:00
🔗
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joepie91 |
not as in Piece Of Shit |
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11:00
🔗
|
joepie91 |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCD-HANDSCANNER-BARCODEREADER-BTS-1069-BTS1069-/230598372431 |
|
11:00
🔗
|
joepie91 |
this one |
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11:00
🔗
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joepie91 |
except I've had mine for years |
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11:05
🔗
|
midas |
i have this one: http://dx.com/p/acan-8100-short-range-handheld-usb-barcode-scanner-210cm-cable-length-25058#.UxBtgfl5PVU |
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11:05
🔗
|
midas |
only i paid like 10 bucks for it :p |
|
11:06
🔗
|
midas |
next one will be laser tho, scanning distance is horrible |
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11:08
🔗
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joepie91 |
midas: similar to mine, except that one has less lights |
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11:09
🔗
|
midas |
hah yeah, it's shitty but still works for what i need it to do |
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11:17
🔗
|
antomatic |
chances are that the barcodes will remain readable long after the discs aren't. :) |
|
11:18
🔗
|
joepie91 |
antomatic: don't remind me :( |
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11:18
🔗
|
joepie91 |
though I have to say, the discs have kept up well so far |
|
11:19
🔗
|
joepie91 |
had a CD-R with RollerCoaster Tycoon on it |
|
11:19
🔗
|
joepie91 |
that's like... 15 years old? |
|
11:19
🔗
|
joepie91 |
it still works fine |
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11:23
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: ~2cm straight scanning distance |
|
11:23
🔗
|
joepie91 |
under angle it's around 1.5 |
|
11:23
🔗
|
joepie91 |
not -too- bad for a CCD scanner |
|
11:26
🔗
|
midas |
true |
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11:26
🔗
|
midas |
for what you need it to do |
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11:27
🔗
|
midas |
wheee megawarc gives tmux a fizzy feeling |
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11:29
🔗
|
* |
ivan` discovers --truncate-output is only in wget-lua |
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12:24
🔗
|
Schbirid |
https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 |
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12:26
🔗
|
midas |
burnnnn |
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12:27
🔗
|
midas |
joepie91: http://tweakers.net/aanbod/638704/250-+-pc-titels.html |
|
12:28
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|
midas |
something for you maybe? |
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12:33
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: yes, but monies |
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12:33
🔗
|
joepie91 |
also |
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12:33
🔗
|
joepie91 |
"alleen ophalen" |
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12:35
🔗
|
midas |
if you mail the guy, ill see if i can pick it up, but only if it's free ;) |
|
12:35
🔗
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joepie91 |
midas: impressive collection, thoigh |
|
12:35
🔗
|
joepie91 |
heh |
|
12:35
🔗
|
joepie91 |
idk, I doubt that he'd give it away for free |
|
12:36
🔗
|
midas |
maybe he will let us copy it first |
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12:37
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: I prefer having originals though |
|
12:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: sent him a message, indicating I'd also be interested in 'useless' CDs |
|
12:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
shovelware etc. |
|
12:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
we'll see |
|
12:46
🔗
|
midas |
with copy i mean, getting all the cd's and he will need to wait for a couple of months before he gets them back :p |
|
12:49
🔗
|
midas |
joepie91: do you have tracker access? |
|
12:49
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: I don't think I have full access |
|
12:49
🔗
|
joepie91 |
but not sure |
|
12:49
🔗
|
midas |
join #canvas |
|
12:49
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and with "having originals" I mean having the originals stored in my CD storage for indefinite time :) |
|
14:33
🔗
|
midas |
joepie91: explain to me, should we still trust TOR? |
|
14:35
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: the answer is "the trust status of TOR has not changed" |
|
14:35
🔗
|
joepie91 |
you can either trust peer review of the codebase, or review it yourself |
|
14:35
🔗
|
joepie91 |
conceptually, assuming the code does what it is supposed to do, TOR is as secure as you're going to get |
|
14:39
🔗
|
midas |
ok, biggest issue is still the browser + plugins above tor |
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15:05
🔗
|
joepie91 |
midas: yes. |
|
15:05
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and this will sadly always remain a problem, until society at large starts giving a damn about security |
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15:08
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
yea or giving a damn about many other things instead of blindly going by what's "trendy" |
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15:09
🔗
|
Smiley |
lollololol while the NSA stuff has helped, i think that's almost hopeless. |
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15:43
🔗
|
midas |
im hiding my personal data with massive amounts of rsync data from you guys ;-) |
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15:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Tor is a great example of failure that's worth studying. |
|
15:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It has the same issues that PGP and others did. |
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15:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It was a safe, in the house |
|
15:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So watch who goes into the house |
|
15:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Watch when they haul out the safe |
|
15:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Watch who comes in and doesn't leave the house, and who leaves but you never saw them come in. |
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15:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The harvard police just watched who had Tor running |
|
15:53
🔗
|
midas |
tor or a different service should be always active, ipv6-sec or something |
|
15:54
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
as far as i know, if you keep it really safe then they can't do anything to you, but the news about the breach was by users who haven't watched out |
|
15:54
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
and who used that browser with javascript and cookies that tracked them down |
|
15:56
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
i'm not the expert on this and i'm not using tor, only tried many years ago but i know enough from some guys |
|
15:59
🔗
|
SketchCow |
A lot of the interest in this sort of stuff is by people who've never had a finger broken in someone else's process of information retrieval. |
|
16:04
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
well if someone passwords their stuff and dont run windows machines and encrypt everything and then would run tor and ensure everything is in order i dont think they would be able to do much |
|
16:05
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
but very little people go through trouble of arranging that anyway |
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16:06
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
most of them just choose easy security solutions, which i myself fell to often, but i don't have this really technical mind anyway but that's not an excuse |
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16:07
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
but mosly you get naive people downloading the "tor bundle" which has been made more and more "easier to use" |
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16:09
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
also, that flowerett "thing", it's a spambot or something or joins channels to leave, he's constantly being banned from another channel i am on |
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16:09
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
or he just spies on shit |
|
16:09
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
better watch out for that guy |
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16:09
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
he joins/leaves |
|
16:12
🔗
|
DFJustin |
the issue is they flipped the default in the browser bundle between versions so that javascript was on when it used to be off |
|
16:12
🔗
|
DFJustin |
without really announcing it |
|
16:12
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
also "indigo@" i suspect it might be a bot of a certain indigo guy i once crossed my paths with in 2006.. |
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16:12
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
yea but |
|
16:12
🔗
|
DFJustin |
so unless you are paranoid and check all the options every time |
|
16:12
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
the users should check that |
|
16:12
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
its not being paranoid |
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16:13
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
its not a fuckin toy |
|
16:13
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
to be just run and used quickly |
|
16:13
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
but they made it that way due to complaints |
|
16:13
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
but thats the wrong approach |
|
16:13
🔗
|
DFJustin |
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a security minded bundle to not make a huge change like that |
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16:14
🔗
|
antomatic |
Exactly, surely a browser being used in that mode should be thoroughly ruggedised to ask for confirmation of EVERY SINGLE cookie and script, not just run on 'full auto' all the time. |
|
16:14
🔗
|
DFJustin |
everything can ultimately be blamed on you if you don't source audit all of your software and compile it yourself etc |
|
16:14
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
its not a huge change, its just that it was made on by default instead, but one should watch out |
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16:15
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
but yeah |
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17:25
🔗
|
godane |
SketchCow: why no French computer magazines? |
|
17:27
🔗
|
DFJustin |
abandonware-magazines.org got really butthurt when he started reuploading their scans |
|
17:28
🔗
|
xmc |
which is hilarious |
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17:30
🔗
|
Schbirid |
attributing the scanners would do a lot of good |
|
17:32
🔗
|
godane |
i didn't know that scan came from abandonware-magazines.org |
|
17:32
🔗
|
godane |
i got from a torrent |
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17:42
🔗
|
godane |
SketchCow: again whats the problem with French computer magazines? |
|
17:49
🔗
|
balrog |
DFJustin: umm, they didn't own the copyrights on the content, did they? |
|
17:53
🔗
|
DFJustin |
no |
|
17:56
🔗
|
balrog |
then why do we care |
|
18:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
We care for several reasons. |
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18:35
🔗
|
turnip |
Sharing is caring, we often share, so we care |
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18:35
🔗
|
turnip |
That is straight-up logic |
|
18:36
🔗
|
SketchCow |
1. The site has been negotiating with a range of magazine publishers, and us mirroring all the content was threatening to kibosh those arrangements. |
|
18:37
🔗
|
SketchCow |
2. I already had all the stuff by the time they got angry. The collections are dark but I have them |
|
18:37
🔗
|
SketchCow |
3. We have plenty enough to add without worrying about that active and functional group's efforts |
|
18:37
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There. |
|
18:38
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Some of you might think I go soft here and there, but it's when there's no immediate example of something needing to be up on archive.org RIGHT NOW, especially when a non-public backup is there on the site in case we need to make it live. |
|
18:38
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I could have the 500+ issues public within 20 minutes. It's just being good right now with France's weird situation. |
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18:41
🔗
|
godane |
ok |
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18:43
🔗
|
turnip |
If abandonware is getting pissy over someone mirroring their shit, they're doing it for the wrong reasons |
|
18:43
🔗
|
turnip |
If you care about preservation, be happy that someone is helping, not territorial |
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18:43
🔗
|
godane |
so this a problem with abandonware or the publisher |
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18:51
🔗
|
xmc |
SketchCow: ah that all makes sense. |
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18:51
🔗
|
xmc |
#1 and #2 interact quite nicely. |
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18:54
🔗
|
SketchCow |
This is not my usual outlook .... |
|
18:54
🔗
|
SketchCow |
... but we're talking about the French here. |
|
18:54
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Also, you can't pull off black trousers and white socks. http://imgur.com/gallery/fgmmYO6 |
|
18:55
🔗
|
turnip |
Not clicking any SketchCow links where he mentions removing clothing |
|
18:55
🔗
|
turnip |
Oh, wrong context of pull off, fuck it |
|
18:56
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://i.imgur.com/ZcUS4Ed.jpg |
|
20:12
🔗
|
godane |
SketchCow: can i get access to geekbeat.tv and geek beat tv reviews? |
|
20:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
What collection names? |
|
20:13
🔗
|
godane |
geekbeattv |
|
20:14
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Done |
|
20:14
🔗
|
godane |
and geekbeattvreviews: https://archive.org/details/geekbeattvreviews |
|
20:14
🔗
|
godane |
also there is like a 145 items in geekbeattv that should be in geekbeattvreviews |
|
20:15
🔗
|
godane |
these items: https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Ageekbeattv%20geekbeattvreviews |
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20:18
🔗
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SketchCow |
All 325 are being shoved over, now. |
|
20:24
🔗
|
godane |
its 145 |
|
20:24
🔗
|
godane |
not 325 |
|
20:24
🔗
|
godane |
in less you mean geekbeattvreviews has 325 items |
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20:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Boop |
|
20:43
🔗
|
SketchCow |
We'll sort it out, it's just files. |
|
21:09
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
seriously that Flowerett guy...he's creepy |
|
21:10
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
all he does is join channels randomly and leaves, possibly gathering some info along the way |
|
21:10
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
and one of the bots on one channel detect him as "spambot" anyway |
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21:16
🔗
|
nico |
arnez.si do not seem to exists |
|
21:17
🔗
|
nico |
so his hostname is fake |
|
21:17
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
what can that mean then? |
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21:18
🔗
|
nico |
that efnet security check are lame |
|
21:18
🔗
|
nico |
it is someone who control the ptr associated whith his ip |
|
21:18
🔗
|
nico |
and he is faking it |
|
21:19
🔗
|
nico |
(that's why you are supposed to validate the ptr ...) |
|
21:19
🔗
|
nico |
got one ip, ask for reverse.ip.in-addr.arpa |
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21:19
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
hmm |
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21:19
🔗
|
nico |
then check if this host exists and point to the same ip |
|
21:19
🔗
|
nico |
if not, something is wrong |
|
21:20
🔗
|
* |
nico remember one time when i was in the network team of a congress |
|
21:20
🔗
|
nico |
and we set the ptr of some router |
|
21:21
🔗
|
nico |
to gate(lastoctal).collect.nsa.gov |
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21:21
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
well, this guy is certainly wrong...what is he? is it a bot or what, i've been seeing him for some time joining and leaving channels at about the same interval he stays |
|
21:21
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
hmm |
|
21:21
🔗
|
nico |
got some people worried :) |
|
21:22
🔗
|
nico |
lot of people have bot that do that |
|
21:22
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
what's the purpose |
|
21:22
🔗
|
nico |
joining, doing a WHO #channel, leaving |
|
21:22
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|
nico |
collect some big data |
|
21:22
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
hmm |
|
21:22
🔗
|
nico |
you don't know what you seek |
|
21:22
🔗
|
nico |
so you collect everything |
|
21:23
🔗
|
nico |
who know, maybe you will find a connection between |
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21:23
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
still it gets me a bit worried, because i used to know this "indigo" guy way back |
|
21:23
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|
Leo_TCK |
and his hostname says "indigo" |
|
21:23
🔗
|
nico |
lot of program are called indigo |
|
21:24
🔗
|
nico |
irc have a very exposed topology |
|
21:25
🔗
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Leo_TCK |
he was a "black hat" though, i didn't like the guy and one time he decided to wreak a bit of havoc with my friends servers etc |
|
21:25
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
so i wonder if this is any way related to that guy |
|
21:25
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nico |
the world is really small |
|
21:25
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|
nico |
you see the same people everywhere |
|
21:26
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|
Leo_TCK |
he used to change his nicks very often or registering himself under multiple names but usually sharing a similar theme, which i could see among the other things, but who knows, i can't know for sure this is related to him |
|
21:27
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|
Leo_TCK |
and if it is then it's been since 2006 or so since i last heard of this guy before |
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21:29
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|
Leo_TCK |
i remmeber when i exposed him somewhere he referred to me afterwards as "miserable little mook" |
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21:29
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nico |
nice |
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22:34
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|
Leo_TCK |
again? sigh |
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22:38
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|
nico |
Leo_TCK: you can talk to an ircop |
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22:38
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|
nico |
a little k-line on @*.arnez.si will resolve this |
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22:45
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|
yipdw |
or |
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22:45
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|
yipdw |
SketchCow: can you spread ops around |
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22:45
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|
yipdw |
we can solve this by just banning it |
|
22:46
🔗
|
yipdw |
it's already banned in e.g. #archivebot |
|
22:47
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|
Leo_TCK |
hmm |
|
22:48
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
did it join there too or not? |
|
22:48
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|
Leo_TCK |
at #archivebot |
|
22:48
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|
yipdw |
yes |
|
22:48
🔗
|
yipdw |
ivan banhammered it |
|
22:48
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|
yipdw |
I had no idea what it was until then |
|
22:48
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|
Leo_TCK |
hmm ah ok |
|
22:51
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|
nico |
https://www.google.com/search?q=dial-up.arnez.si&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:fr:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
|
22:52
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|
godane |
SketchCow: i think the collections are fine now |
|
22:52
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|
nico |
http://forum.efnet.org/oper-spy-bots-t1580.html |
|
22:59
🔗
|
Leo_TCK |
hmm |
|
23:00
🔗
|
nico |
tomarrow will be my birthday |
|
23:13
🔗
|
godane |
SketchCow: is it ok to PM you? |