[00:23] SketchCow: can i get full access to this collection: https://archive.org/details/The_Sydney_Morning_Herald [00:30] i also will need access to this collection: https://archive.org/details/Student_News_CNN [01:11] godane about that video [01:11] I remember the first movie I downloaded [01:11] Attack_Of_The_Cyber_Pirates in new home. [01:11] Spiderman.SVCD.TS-Centropy [01:11] 2002-05-03 22:00:00 [01:12] godane: Access to The_Sydney_Morning_Herald and Student_News_CNN [01:59] i'm still not getting a edit button for this collection: https://archive.org/details/The_Sydney_Morning_Herald [02:03] Database errror [02:03] We'll deal with it later [02:07] i figured it had to be some thing like that [02:08] i know that there was no power outage thats causing the problem [04:18] If any of you are planning to be at GDC, you can challenge John Romero in Doom deathmatch- he'll be playing on the 17th of March [04:42] i got today episodes during the beijing 2008 summer games [04:43] again this is only the 'first hour' of the today episodes i have [04:43] but this covers the news mostly with some interviews [08:38] i'm grabbing Meet John Doe that the blaze aired last night [10:03] so looks like evening though nbc today show is not being 'netcast' anymore the podcasts are still out there [10:03] i really don't get nbc [10:04] you can only stream segments but you can still download what would be streaming [11:45] what is the ideal (Linux) imaging method for data DVDs? [11:48] dvd-rom I mean [12:13] just iso I think- it's what I've used for the few DVDs I've uploaded to IA [13:06] dashcloud; alright [13:06] I'm updating my image.py to detect the media type and use the appropriate tool :) [13:07] dashcloud: http://sprunge.us/gJgN [13:07] or http://sprunge.us/gJgN?py if you want nice formatting [13:08] massively abusing some commandline utilities, but hey :P [13:31] ... I'm guessing that rental DVDs have some kind of crazy copyright protection mechanism? [13:32] I got like 3.5 gigs worth of read errors [13:32] sorry, more like 8 gigs [13:33] sounds about right - ARccOS or similar, perhaps [13:33] urgh [13:33] how to get around? [13:33] (and how to detect?) [13:33] dedicated ripper, or apparently ddrescue will do its usual magic [13:33] (NB: I haven't tested this myself!) [13:34] ddrescue didn't quite [13:34] urgh :/ [13:34] Baljem: http://owely.com/4TLAHn [13:34] this is where I gave up lol [13:35] as for dedicated ripper... anything that runs on Linux and can be controlled/run from a terminal is fine :P [13:35] ouch [13:35] unfortunately the only thing I've used for ripping is DVDshrink, and a) that was a while back and b) it's not going to be much use if you want a good clean copy instead of transcoding, AFAIK [13:35] at this point I'm going to have to admit ignorance and wish you luck, I'm afraid! [13:36] :( [13:36] (oh, and c) it's a Windows GUI app, in the version I tried, anyway) [13:36] and yeah, I just want a clean copy [13:36] heh [13:36] then it's definitely out [13:36] yep [13:36] I'm really just looking for something a la ddrescue/cdrdao/whatever [13:36] so I can automate it [13:40] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxdvdrip/wiki/Home/ any use? [13:40] I'm not finding much that looks promising, I'm afraid [13:41] oh, it lists the tools that actually do the work, so might be worth digging a bit deeper [13:56] "I love how everybody is all: VLC can do it, Handbrake can do it, blah blah blah. No, all those things can bypass the CSS, it’s true. But none of them can get past the bad sector thing. Even ddrescue is useless here because the first pass (-n) only gets 300M or so of the 8G disc. Even after running for several days it was only able to recover 6G of it and it’s completely unwatchable. Like, literally, it still doesn’t play." [13:56] sounds like my case [13:58] huh [13:58] Baljem: http://www.cmdln.org/2010/01/22/backing-up-disney-dvds/ [13:58] that looks like it might solve my issue! [14:04] ah, now this bit sounds interesting: sdparm -set=RRC=0 /dev/sr0 [14:05] that might be what's happening behind the scenes to explain the 'start playing the disc in VLC before using ddrescue' advice that crops up a few times [14:16] Baljem: huh? [14:32] huh? [14:32] sorry, I trundled down into the comments on that link [14:32] because the post itself seemed to suggest ddrescue, which you'd said was struggling? [14:37] Baljem: yeah, read down now [14:37] weird [14:37] Baljem: any suggestions on how to 'detect' arccos [14:37] other than parsing ddrescue output? [15:19] wtf [15:19] Baljem: hdparm won't work [15:19] er [15:19] sdparm [15:19] but starting VLC and pausing -does- seem to work [15:19] ... up to a point [15:20] nevermind, broke after 450MB [15:21] fuck this arccos c rap [15:21] crap * [15:21] seriously [15:26] giving up for todayu [15:26] today * [15:29] urgh. sounds like fun :/ afraid apart from having stumbled across it before, I don't know much else about it... hopefully someone else will have some useful experience! [15:39] Baljem; currently ddrescue is trying to make sense of my City of Ember DVD [15:39] starting to wonder if all rental DVDs have this crap [15:39] as this is a WB movie, not Sony [15:52] yes, I would imagine it (or something very similar) will be on all sorts of stuff - Sony probably license it or offer it for any discs they press regardless of studio [15:53] I see some references to Fox and WB having used it in the past and then given up (some suggestion that Sony may have given up on it themselves, too) - caused too many problems with real DVD players, it seems - of course, the rental sector might be different [15:54] apparently the industry didn't learn its lesson from the not-really-CDs that would jam car CD players etc. [15:54] (alternatively they learnt entirely the wrong lesson from that, which is that consumers will roll over and beg for more when force-fed incompatible shit) [16:11] joepie91: recent DVD copy-protection systems are designed to fuck over any sector-by-sector copies. They work by filling the disc with bad or unreadable sectors, which a real DVD player does not need to (or attempt to) access during the course of 'legitimate' playback. [16:12] Any tool that does a blind sector-by-sector copy will be slowed down to the point of boredom (and possibly fucking your drive, given long enough) [16:12] To rip discs like that you need specifically-coded 'piracy' tools like DVDFab and that stuff. Which of course ain't free either. [16:13] You'll see those protections most often on rental DVDs but they sometimes appear on retail discs too, if the distribution studio is one of the paranoid ones [16:14] ddrescue will just 'copy all sectors in case there's anything there', what you need is a tool that will 'rip only the sectors where the disc says anything is' [16:15] [and even then that might still not be 100% as the studios could seed an 'acceptable amount' of bad sectors into the readable areas on the assumption that real DVD players would ignore them] [16:41] blurgh [16:41] I hate DRM so incredibly fucking much [16:42] well [16:42] my image kind of plays [16:42] but it's glitch city [16:42] and then dies [16:42] ffs [16:53] joepie91_: i have bought maybe 2 dvds in my life [16:53] and it was a pain in the ass [16:54] heh [16:56] actually i bought get lamp for the warm fuzzy feeling but never took it out of the box because i watched the rip earlier :) [17:14] http://owely.com/9XSdn3 [17:14] well, this seems to work nicely [17:19] I haven't run my Warrior in a while. Time to fix that. [17:20] I need to get the scripts set up on my home server. [17:20] Then I could just run it pretty much 24/7. [17:21] I have a small Arch Linux machine which serves pretty much just music files and bounces IRC. [22:03] i found the video of news coverage when i lost power for 9 days [22:03] back in december 2008 [23:20] so good news [23:21] i found out that all the Mad money stuff is hosted on podcast.cnbc.com.edgesuite.net [23:28] and unlike nbc news podcasts there is no random crap at the end