[00:00] well, this is some dubious meat I'm eating [00:00] it has the texture of meat, but that's about it [00:01] (microwave meal) [00:01] Try lighting it on fire [00:02] That's what I was told about the (Icelandic version of) homebrew, don't see why it wouldn't also work for cardboard-based sustenance... [00:03] lol [00:03] well the weird thing is [00:03] these microwave meals are normally very good [00:03] so I'm not sure what happened here [00:03] it hasn't gone bad, it just lacks taste [00:04] Did all the soylent leak out of it? :p [00:06] hehe [09:24] rofl https://support.rockstargames.com [12:49] so I am busy imaging a bunch of floppies I found [12:49] I've got some drivers for an ISA TV tuner card which I was never able to find on the web in the past [12:49] how am I best to disseminate these for preservation? [12:49] I've also for the original MS-DOS disks that came with the Toshiba T1100 laptop. Unfortunately they've got a tiny bit of crud on them from when I used the laptop in the late 90s. [12:53] ex-parrot: just upload them to IA :) [12:53] preferably with a label scan [12:53] they're commercial software though [12:53] and enough metadata to make it google-able [12:53] doesn't matter [12:53] just upload it; if rightsholder complains, it'll be darked [12:53] but not removed [12:53] ok cool. the website says "Please contribute books, audio, and video files that you have the right to share." [12:53] honestly, I doubt anybody will care about drivers [12:53] which put me off [12:53] I'll poke them up, and I'll scan the labels :) [12:53] tbh, that seems more like a CYA line than anything else [12:54] :P [12:54] I want to get a kryoflux and read these again, as there are some dodgy sectors :( [12:54] plus "right to share" is pretty ambiguous [12:54] mm [12:54] but the kryoflux guys upset me a bit last time I tried to buy one [12:54] kryofluxes aren't cheap [12:54] and I cancelled the order [12:54] ? [12:54] upset you? [12:54] I tried to buy the unit with my company, intending to offer a cost-price disk recovery / archiving service to cover the unit cost [12:54] and he insisted I get an expensive commercial licence [12:55] I just naturally assumed his stuff was all oshw / free software but evidently it isn't :/ [12:55] ah, right [12:55] wasn't there an open equivalent thing [12:55] I would like there to be! I couldn't find one though [12:55] paging SketchCow underscor exmic [12:55] but nowadays I get paid well enough to bite the bullet and just order one "personally" I feel [12:55] I can still run an archiving service but I'll just do it for the greater good and not charge :) [12:56] heh [12:56] inb4 "but that's not personal use! you still need a commercial license!" [12:56] also the exchange rate has improved since then [12:56] + I found a box of 30 unopened floppy drives, making that part easier to deal with :D [12:56] heh [12:57] I need a floppy drive [12:57] meanwhile, dd_rescue is doing a sterling job [12:57] I don't think I have any spare ones anymore [12:57] ddrescue or dd_rescue? [12:57] I've been hoarding USB floppy drives the last few months [12:57] sorry, GNU ddrescue [12:57] old habits :) [12:57] (I used to have a bunch of internal ones, but they seem to have vanished...) [12:57] heh [12:57] yeah I thought I'd thrown out this box of 30 drvies, they're the last stock the company I work for bought back in 2002 or so when we still built PCs [12:57] but they turned up again while moving house [12:58] haha [12:58] "oh hi there old friend" [12:58] I've been hoarding USB drives on the basis that maybe one will have an exposed "normal floppy interface" inside and I can swap in a 5.25" drive, but I am beginning to think a kryoflux is less work :P [12:59] and I've got an X1541 set up for archiving commodore floppies, but it's also subject to the whims of the rotting hardware... [12:59] I need to figure out how to connect an /actual/ C64 floppy drive [12:59] to a modern PC [12:59] given that I have an actual physical, working C64 here [12:59] including floppy drive [12:59] yeah. I use an old Pentium II with a real LPT port [13:00] connected to a drive I modified to have an X1541 adapter inside it [13:00] well if I have an LPT connection it's not a problem [13:00] I'd quite like to see about making a more modern X1541 equivalent, maybe using an FTDI chip in bit-bang mode... [13:00] I can just order some shitty LPT-to-USB board from China [13:00] the problem is getting from C64 to a conventional interface [13:00] I have no idea how to do that [13:00] lol [13:00] yeah build yourself one of the X1541 variants. they depend on quite close timing etc though, I've never had much with them on a modern PC [13:01] the other option is to use an sd2iec to boot up some disk imaging software on the C64 itself, then move the images back and forth on SD card. but that's slow [13:01] also! while I am here! I have a box of 3" Amdek floppies [13:02] ex-parrot: what exactly is an X1541? [13:02] that I would like to ship to someone who can archive them appropriately / preserve them in some sensible way. one of the disks is still in shrinkwrap [13:02] (that'd be SketchCow, probably) [13:02] http://sta.c64.org/xcables.html [13:02] 1541 was the common 5.25" disk drive [13:02] http://sta.c64.org/parport.html [13:02] oh, so these are connection cables basically [13:02] for connecting a C64 to a PC? [13:02] yes [13:03] do they have any other names besides X1541? [13:03] there are a few variants on the name, like XE1541 etc [13:03] XE, XM,XA [13:03] the X1541 was the original lousy one that requires an older PC for the timing and parallel port electrical specs [13:04] I've got I think the XE1541 w/ parallel mods [13:05] i need to play with this stuff someday, I have several commodores and tons of old disks [13:05] ex-parrot: okay, so what exactly should I be looking for [13:05] model-wise [13:05] :p [13:05] if I want a proper one [13:05] probably http://sta.c64.org/xa1541.html, they're the most reliable of the X1541 series [13:06] unless progress has marched on without me (likely) and there's a better overall solution [13:06] hm [13:06] right [13:07] I built my XE1541 in to the back of my 1541-II drive, as it makes taking the parallel data lines over much simpler [13:07] then I just plug a DB-25 to DB-25 cable between LPT port and the drive [13:08] Dear valued customer, We're off for the weekend, and we'll back on June 16th 2014. [13:08] well guess I'll have to be patient then [13:09] (I inquired if they happen to have a supplier selling those cables pre-made, because I can't electronics for shit) [13:09] they're actually pretty simple to build. not a bad "first project" really [13:09] I built my first X1541 cable back in ~ 2001 or so, was one of the earliest electronics projects I tackled [13:10] :p [13:10] yeah, but I'd rather not risk screwing up and burning out my only C64 floppy drive [13:41] did you know there's a page on the archiveteam wiki about rescuing floppy disks? http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Rescuing_Floppy_Disks [13:41] also some good stuff on the talk page [13:42] thanks! [13:42] if you find any new info, or something doesn't work out, add a note on the wiki [13:43] there's also this: http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/ which may be useful [13:44] oh man, I have wanted this forever [13:45] joepie91: disk ferret maybe? [13:46] discferret looks good. I hope they can get production underway soon, it seems more aligned with my desires :) [13:47] (underscor delivers :P) [13:54] found another page with info on cables and copy software [13:54] http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~schepers/personal.html [13:55] might want to archive that since it is a college personal page, seems to be kept current, alst updates march 26th 2014 [14:27] ex-parrot: please bother philpem about the discferret, he seems to be in a funk about it; if anyone wants to help him with fpga microcode, pcb gerber/respin help, etc he could use it very much [14:29] today i wish for a time machine to do a better archive msnbc.com [14:29] cause msnbc.com just SUCKS [14:30] the wayback is like doing 3 redirect just to tell you it has nothing [14:34] https://imgur.com/gallery/BJAtJRm [14:35] joepie91, you lied, there's a shitton of text here. >.> [14:36] SN4T14: nahh [14:36] less than in datahoarder [14:36] :p [14:36] But that was interesting, they were talking about my ass cactus and stuff! [14:37] Anyways, like I said, gotta run [14:40] alright, ttyl :P [14:40] (ass cactus, wat) [14:41] SketchCow: please fix the collection in these items: https://archive.org/details/mtp_netcast_061001 [14:42] it should be mtp_netcast not mta_netcast [17:55] nice http://chunk.io/ [17:59] schbirid: nice. [18:00] I mean, looks clean, wonder what its end-game is [18:05] schbirid: seems like sprunge [18:05] except this costs a lot more space than sprunge [18:05] * joepie91 wonders too [18:49] hello, i've got some issues with wpull https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110292940/wpull.PNG [18:52] Do you have all the dependencies installed? [18:52] yes [18:53] Why are you using -m in your python command? [18:54] otherwise python won't load the script: python: can't open file 'wpull': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [18:58] Warchell: how did you install it? [18:58] Warchell, that's probably because it's called wpull.py [18:58] like all dependencies with PIP, except lxlm which i installed with easy install 2.7 [18:59] Warchell: and simply running `wpull` is not sufficient? [18:59] (I should add that I'm not sure how wpull is operated under Windows) [19:00] python wpull.py also gives no such file error [19:01] if I go to C:\Python27\Scripts and [19:01] "python wpull" from there [19:01] i get the same traceback errors [19:03] Warchell: what happens when you just run 'wpull' [19:03] and nothing else [19:03] from any directory [19:04] no 'python' in front [19:07] then windows tells me its not recognized as internal/external coomend [19:07] command [19:10] right, I'm not sure then [19:10] paging yipdw [19:11] Sounds like you need Cygwin in your life. [19:14] for those that love the devs love bacon talk: https://archive.org/details/DIY_Tryin_24 [19:14] so I could deploy python-wpull on top of it? [19:15] its how to make bacon from scratch [19:16] it's dinner-odds-and-ends day! [19:17] (trying to assemble a macaroni dinner from random bits of food I have laying around) [19:37] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJg8Z0dL350 <3 [21:08] goddamn, same issues in cygwin-32 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110292940/wpull-cyg.PNG [21:12] Why 32-bit Cygwin? [21:14] cant get to work pip in 64 because there is no libuuid-devel in cyg-64 installer [21:15] is it ok that there is a lot of RefactoringTool: messages during wpull installation? [21:21] If you don't get an error, it's fine [21:25] probably should try python3 [21:49] i updating the tezkilla colllection [21:50] i uploading episode 508 of it [22:04] :D [22:04] SN4T14: midas ding [22:04] :D [22:04] SN4T14: well maybe you should use a real IRC client then :P [22:04] and not hexchat [22:04] DONG [22:05] HexChat is best IRC client [22:05] (really, dongs?) [22:05] no [22:05] yes [22:05] hexchat barely meets the minimum viability of IRC client [22:05] lol [22:05] and that seems to be its stated design goal [22:05] Why do you say that? [22:05] i like weechat [22:05] because it's awkward to use in any serious capacity [22:05] I think you're confusing it with something else [22:05] no, hexchat, the xchat fork [22:05] Again, why do you say that? [22:06] You're not actually explaining your stance. :p [22:06] because that's my experience with it? :P [22:06] for starters, the network management is godawful [22:06] opinion != opinion [22:06] the channel list display is also dubious - as evidenced by your statement in #archiveteam [22:06] :P [22:07] The channel list thing is because I (usually) only need to see the first few letters in the channel name, so it's small [22:07] midas: unless this changed in the past year, hexchat is unable to automatically remember joined channels [22:07] I consider this a serious deficiency [22:07] for an IRC client [22:07] But I can customize it and make it the biggest part of the window [22:07] It remembers them just fine [22:07] still, i liek weechat [22:07] in guake [22:07] SN4T14: across restarts? [22:07] because it certainly didn;t for me a year ago [22:07] press ALL the F12's [22:07] Yup, joepie91 [22:08] Wait, it might be my ZNC, let me check [22:08] midas: weechat is okay as far as terminal clients go, but terminal clients have some inherent issues [22:08] SN4T14: it's your ZNC. [22:08] ZNC auto-remembers channels [22:08] dont like BNC's [22:08] Nope, joepie91, only #ArchiveTeam is set to be saved in ZNC [22:09] SN4T14: missing the point [22:09] when you disconnect, your ZNC remains in the channel [22:09] http://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq.html#how-do-i-autoconnect-and-join-a-channel-on-start [22:09] it may not remember it on-disk, but that doesn't mean that your joins don't persist across connections from your client to ZNC [22:09] ;) [22:09] "To automatically join channels for this network upon connecting, select the âAutojoin channelsâ tab in this same window and add your desired channels here. You can also add a currently joined channel by right-clicking its name in the channel switcher and by toggling âAutojoinâ on." [22:09] exactly, so not tautomatic [22:09] automatic * [22:09] (and the autojoin toggle is new) [22:10] (it didn't even have that before, just the textbox in network list) [22:10] time for bed [22:10] s/bed/sleep [22:10] Time for dude it's like midnight your time. :p [22:10] i have to wake up at 7 again [22:10] Oh wait, you people have stuff to do in the morning [22:11] I need to sleep [22:11] not because time [22:11] but because sleepy [22:11] >.> [22:11] sleepy and have to go to work tomorrow [22:11] actually [22:11] one moment [22:11] joepie91, have some coffee/coke/misc. caffeinated beverage [22:11] work is silly, i do the same as i do now, just on a different location [22:11] slacking. [22:12] SN4T14: that won't help if I'm actually sleepy [22:12] it will keep me awake, but not focused [22:12] It will, temporarily [22:12] no, it won't :P [22:12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Stimulant_effects [22:12] not when I'm in this state [22:12] yes, thank you, I can look at wikipedia [22:12] :P [22:12] I also know how I react to caffeine [22:12] and when it helps, and when it does not [22:12] Who needs focus anyway, you're in IRC chatting. >.> [22:13] yes, /because/ I'm not focused [22:13] I'm supposed to be fixing anonnews [22:13] lol [22:13] Go grab a 4-pack of Red Bull [22:13] lol [22:13] That might be enough caffeine to get you focused. :p [22:13] doesn't make you think. [22:13] makes you think you can think. [22:13] SN4T14: caffine won't focus me [22:13] nothing beats proper sleep [22:13] (plus, redbull is ridiculously expensive) [22:13] Smiley: is correct [22:14] joepie91, get yourself a generic brand, then [22:14] ... [22:14] missing the point :D [22:14] SN4T14: at what store [22:14] it's midnight, remember [22:14] Also he's not correct, caffeine "produces faster and clearer flow of thought" [22:14] city stuck in 20st century, remember :P [22:14] joepie91, you don't have 24/7 stores? :p [22:14] as a job of protecting lots of peoples water supply, I know that simply drinking coffee/redbull/energy drink isn't a good way to deal with tireness [22:14] SN4T14: not in this city, no [22:14] also damnit [22:14] webchat not loading on ereader [22:15] hacking my kindle, hmmm [22:15] i didn't get usbNetwork working D: [22:15] Smiley: thanks for not killing the watersupply [22:16] no worries :D [22:16] Smiley, ever thought of becoming a supervillain? [22:16] annoyingly people on dialasis and stuff insist on dying if I do :< [22:16] Although you'd probably need to change your username to Frowny. :p [22:17] SN4T14: lol so SO many insecure infrastructure but I'm not allowed to talk about that! [22:17] Security through obscurity, lovely. :D [22:17] grrrrr [22:17] webchat refuses to load [22:17] :( [22:18] anyway [22:18] SN4T14: [22:18] "produces faster and clearer flow of thought" [22:18] correct [22:18] faster and clearer than when tired and not drinking caffeine [22:18] lol [22:18] not faster and clearer than when having had a good nights sleep [22:18] I become faster and more alert, I also become more forgetful. [22:19] ok Lord_Nigh, will see what I can do [22:19] Smiley: i used to work for a company that builds monitoring software for levees [22:19] i got a nasty looking thing getting a list of urls for rawporter. seems to be working... [22:19] http://www.17track.net/en/sim-post.shtml?num=RC013198063MY&pt=0 [22:19] argh [22:19] deliver package already pls [22:20] they asked a supplier to connect the locks to the public network, directly. [22:20] midas: can you supply their name? [22:20] because "firewalls cause problems with the software" [22:20] im still under contract in this case [22:20] midas: hmmmm try GSM modems D: [22:21] hah, yeah, also very nice [22:21] and gprs. [22:21] and radio signals [22:21] and all sorts of other insecured things because "who'd ever listen to them?" [22:21] who ever tought it was a great idea to put them on a public waveband should be shot. [22:22] :P [22:22] SN4T14: because it's more fun in not-bs! [22:22] anyway [22:22] I really need sleep [22:22] so, goodnight :3 [22:22] Pfft [22:22] nuuu [22:22] 'night [22:23] anyway Smiley, some of the most important infrastructures are the worst protected, but you know what already [22:23] midas, you could leak info through Tor. :D [22:23] midas: 14 million customers. ;#D [22:24] lots of public sector businesses too [22:24] prisons, hospitals, etc :/ [22:24] lol [22:24] ooo actually - completely seperate subject [22:24] court case next week [22:24] if he doesn't go down as guilty... [22:24] Smiley, how many of them do you think you could kill if you "accidentally" poured a bunch of Ricin into the water? :p [22:24] how would you go about releasing the details of what he did? [22:24] SN4T14: all of them? [22:24] :D [22:25] And as for that court case [22:25] I'd be supprised if thats something the sensors detect. [22:25] Cl2 and am3... [22:25] Leak it through Tor, but make sure to check another person's copy of the documents thouroughly first, in case there's some hidden watermarking in the wording. ;) [22:25] SN4T14: the reason im still under contract is because they are fixing this kind of stuff :p [22:25] OH I'll be writing this up [22:25] quite simple [22:26] Oh, then just leak it through Tor [22:26] leak it _to_ where though? [22:26] Pastebin and then archive it? :D [22:26] lol [22:26] And also go back in time about 5 minutes and don't mention it in IRC. :p [22:26] I know the internet doesn't forget. [22:26] SN4T14: probable cause isn't proof. [22:26] I'd just Pastebin it and then email the link to a bunch of relevant news websites [22:26] All my speach in this channel is purely theoretical. [22:26] Smiley: unless you use one of these startups with a pastebin feature [22:26] None can be used to prove anything... [22:27] Smiley, wouldn't that be considered circumstantial evidence, not probable cause? [22:27] Oh the news websites won't care. [22:27] then the internet forgets pritty quickly sometimes [22:27] midas: hahah [22:27] Smiley, just email the link to the pastebin to people that care [22:28] hah, this FTP im grabbing, it's 4.6TB [22:28] fuck. [22:28] o_O [22:28] HP? [22:28] DEC [22:28] i used to have a DEC machine [22:28] alpha 1000 series [22:29] well, the company i worked for had 3 of them [22:29] NT4 shitboxes [22:30] so recent discovery at my work place [22:30] the redudant server for the monitoring system.... well it's less powerful than the primary D: [22:30] that works really well when the primary fails due to bad weather or something D: [22:31] hah you want to know my best failure i just found out at work Smiley ? [22:31] one of our main SAN's has 5 raid5 arrays [22:32] the entire device has 10 disks [22:32] does not compute? [22:32] 1+1+0; 1+1+0; 1+1+0; 1+1+0; 1+1+0; hehehehe [22:32] hardware isnt ours btw, we hire the stuff [22:32] someones stolen your checksum data? [22:32] midas: don't worry [22:33] only 3 of them actually hold data [22:33] someone hasnt given me access to the SAN yet :p [22:33] the backups are on the other two [22:33] !!! [22:33] you are right! [22:33] :O [22:33] i said, ok, where are our backups? [22:33] "on the other RAID arrays." [22:33] * Smiley cries [22:33] i had a little wee [22:34] first thing i did was backup ALL the data to our own hardware at different locations [22:35] very scary moment, i have a meeting with them in the morning, [22:35] going to suck [22:39] dear lord [22:40] you've got 1 x RAID5, [22:40]