#archiveteam-bs 2014-09-30,Tue

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05:57 🔗 yipdw rake routes
05:57 🔗 yipdw oops
06:10 🔗 garyrh http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/30/business/media/judge-rules-against-grooveshark-in-copyright-infringement-case.html
09:58 🔗 joepie91_ beep beep boop boop
09:58 🔗 joepie91_ I'm on a megabus (again)
09:58 🔗 joepie91_ http://www.speedtest.net/result/3797846984.png
09:58 🔗 joepie91_ notbad :D
09:58 🔗 joepie91_ DNS server was a bit fucked, but managed to work around that
10:01 🔗 midas megabus logo is strange
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ midas: it is
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ I like the buses though
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ in the newer type of bus now
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ less airco, more laptop space
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ I can comfortably type
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ :P
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ legroom is fine in both old and new buses
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ but old buses don't really have any space for laptop
10:23 🔗 joepie91_ without cramping your arms
10:24 🔗 midas the busses are fine, just the logo, it gives me nightmares
10:24 🔗 joepie91_ haha
10:24 🔗 midas nightterrors?
10:24 🔗 joepie91_ midas: have you ever been on a megabus
10:24 🔗 joepie91_ :p
10:24 🔗 midas i cant
10:24 🔗 midas seriously, i dont fit, normal people have legroom, im stuck
10:25 🔗 midas im a lazy fatass, remember that :p
10:27 🔗 godane looks like there maybe alot of microsoft research videos missing around 135000 and 138000
10:27 🔗 joepie91_ midas: have you tried it
10:27 🔗 godane i got one video with zero metadata
10:27 🔗 joepie91_ because I'm /really/ tall and I *still* have more than enough legroom on megabus
10:27 🔗 joepie91_ on the Thalys I was cramped, on every other bus I'm cramped
10:27 🔗 joepie91_ but megabus (their own buses, not the over-capacity rentals) are fine
10:28 🔗 midas on the normal bus i have to sit in the middle seat at the end else i need to buy new knees
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ midas: same for me
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ :p
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ I'm like 1.93m or some shit
10:28 🔗 midas im 185 and fat
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ I'm not even touching the chair in front of me right now
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ neither with my knees nor with my laptop on my lap;
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ and I'm comfortably typing :P
10:28 🔗 midas that is kinda impressive actually :p
10:28 🔗 joepie91_ yes :P
10:29 🔗 joepie91_ I was surprised tbh
10:29 🔗 schbirid omg midas is fat
10:29 🔗 midas unexpected!
10:29 🔗 joepie91_ given what I'd paid, I'd expected ryanair-type legroom...
10:29 🔗 schbirid i could use some kilos, let's trade!
10:29 🔗 joepie91_ but it's really surprisingly luxury
10:29 🔗 midas you can have alot of my kilo's schbirid
10:29 🔗 schbirid nah, 10 is enough ;)
10:29 🔗 joepie91_ legroom, reclining chairs (without bothering the person behind you too much), power sockets, wifi that sometimes works
10:29 🔗 joepie91_ a clean, working toilet
10:29 🔗 midas powersockets
10:29 🔗 midas \o/
10:29 🔗 schbirid gnuplot _can_ be beautiful http://www.gnuplotting.org/waterfall-plots-with-changing-color/
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ the airco is either almost non-existent or hurricane mode, though
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ so that's a bit annoying
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ midas: yes :D
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ UK plugs, though
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ like
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ one USB socket and one UK socket per two seats
10:30 🔗 midas not bad at all
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ but it's turned on throughout the trip
10:30 🔗 midas KLM only has that in business class
10:30 🔗 joepie91_ turned off on the eurotunnel train / ferry (30-60 minutes)
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ and depending on the driver, either turned on or turned off during stops
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ (depends on whether he keeps the engine running or not)
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ midas: indeed!
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ and the power has worked all 3 times so far
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ for me
10:31 🔗 joepie91_ this is the first time wifi has worked reliably from departure, though
10:31 🔗 midas you are in the UK now?
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ in a short while, not anymore
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ midas: currently, yes
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ :P
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ we're driving to dover now
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ so yeah, if I disappear
10:33 🔗 joepie91_ that's the wifi taking a shit
10:33 🔗 midas ah :p
10:37 🔗 joepie91_ anyway, midas, just try taking a megabus some time
10:37 🔗 joepie91_ and see if it works out :P
10:37 🔗 joepie91_ they're pretty empty outside holiday season
10:37 🔗 joepie91_ so you can easily take up two seats if necessary
10:37 🔗 joepie91_ there's maybe, 15 people in this bus right now?
10:39 🔗 midas lol ok
10:39 🔗 midas btw boat or train back to mainland?
10:40 🔗 * midas loves the boat
10:40 🔗 midas before that, hooverspeed \o/
10:41 🔗 midas -o tho
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ midas: depends
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ usually train by day, ferry at night
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ also, P&O ferry sucks
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ occasionally ferry by day
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ lol
10:41 🔗 joepie91_ stenaline > P&O
10:42 🔗 midas hoverspeed doesnt operate anymore i think
10:42 🔗 midas http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/Hoverlloyd/PofWales-01_HS.jpg
10:42 🔗 midas 20 minutes :p
10:42 🔗 joepie91_ midas: not sure, not between hook of holland and harwich anyway
10:43 🔗 joepie91_ idk about calais-dover
10:43 🔗 joepie91_ alright, nearing dover
10:43 🔗 joepie91_ will be dropping in a while
10:43 🔗 godane found something interesting
10:44 🔗 godane looks like video 138618 is missing but really is not
10:44 🔗 godane its here now: http://channel9.msdn.com/blogs/charles/engkoo-english-learning-vertical-search-from-bing-and-ms-research-in-china
10:56 🔗 godane also looks like i maybe missing alot of the videos aways cause of my error resolve problem
11:37 🔗 joepie91_ midas: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3798020295.png
11:37 🔗 joepie91_ eurotunnel free wifi
11:37 🔗 joepie91_ lol
11:38 🔗 midas thats not bad at all! :p
11:38 🔗 midas in the tunnel or in lounge?
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ midas: neither
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ queue
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ like
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ car queue
11:38 🔗 midas lol
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ (lounge? there is a lounge?)
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ anyway, just walked out to grab a hotdog
11:38 🔗 midas for the train? yes in the station before dover :P
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ and I come back to this great wifi connection
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ lol
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ interesting
11:38 🔗 joepie91_ didn't know that
11:39 🔗 joepie91_ I've only ever traveled to the UK by train/ferry and by megabus
11:39 🔗 joepie91_ so I'm not at all familiar with the train lounge
11:39 🔗 joepie91_ :P
11:39 🔗 midas :p
11:39 🔗 midas airport lounge, amex > every lounge
11:39 🔗 joepie91_ ?
11:41 🔗 midas i can go into the airport lounges with my creditcard
11:41 🔗 joepie91_ wat
11:41 🔗 midas yeah
11:42 🔗 midas for free
11:42 🔗 midas because i have a gold amex and used to fly _alot_
11:44 🔗 joepie91_ :|
11:50 🔗 Rotab lol amex
11:54 🔗 midas company gave it Rotab
11:55 🔗 midas after i left i kept it for my flying blue miles
13:32 🔗 godane looks like this video file is damaged: https://archive.org/details/ColorPri
13:38 🔗 godane it gets stuck at 00:20:35.80
15:20 🔗 schbirid http://hannes.enjoys.it/blog/2014/09/commandline-file-hosts/
15:22 🔗 schbirid only mac users could design curl.io
15:22 🔗 schbirid "oh, you want to upload from your terminal? please visit the website first"
15:25 🔗 Rotab hahahahaha
15:41 🔗 SketchCow Boop
15:41 🔗 SketchCow Wow, so much stuff on FOS
16:59 🔗 DFJustin http://archive.org/download/aol-file-protocol-4400-3001-to-3100/aol-file-protocol-4400-3001-to-3100.zip/AOLDLs%2FYe%20Olde%20Forum%20Library%2FThe%20Online%20Comedy%20Express%2FOLCEFLR.bmp
17:10 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://news.yahoo.com/britons-sign-away-first-born-children-free-wifi-222708987.html
17:11 🔗 RedType The experiment was aimed to highlight "the total disregard for computer security by people when they are mobile" the report said.
17:11 🔗 RedType never mind that if this went to court then it would get torn apart like said baby if it was thrown to hungry wolves
17:16 🔗 antomatic And to those contract terms we say "Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999", which is a thing.
17:17 🔗 DFJustin the part about getting emails and passwords is more concerning, what service still isn't using https
17:19 🔗 shannon mobile facebook = pure evil
17:24 🔗 schbirid http://events.ccc.de/2014/09/30/31c3-special-terms-at-radisson-hotel/
17:25 🔗 antomatic "Oh boy, this hacker conference has included free wifi!" :)
17:25 🔗 aaaaaaaaa http://archive.today/20130123134419/http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/18/black-hat-hackers-technology-security_0218_blackhat.html DFJustin
17:32 🔗 DFJustin welp
17:39 🔗 yipdw people who write HTML tables in divs should be punched in the face
17:40 🔗 * yipdw has been doing maintenance work on a codebase that pulls that shit
17:40 🔗 yipdw I have no idea why the developer who did this thought that was a good idea, except that maybe he read some shit on w3schools that said "tables are bad" and proceeded to overgeneralize
17:41 🔗 yipdw there's gems like <div class="table"> and <div class="cell">
17:41 🔗 shannon schbirid - i will be at 31c3 ... are you going?
17:41 🔗 shannon ive offered to buy a drink/coffee to any archiveteam people
17:41 🔗 yipdw the main reason why this sucks, btw, is that browsers and shit-tier reset stylesheets apply different layout rules to tables and <div>s masquerading as tables, and the visual result is all sorts of fucked up
17:43 🔗 schbirid shannon: definitely!
17:47 🔗 yipdw RedType, antomatic: I don't think the "we own your children" clause is the interesting part, because whatever a court does or what the laws say are not interesting unless you believe laws apply equally to all
17:47 🔗 yipdw the more interesting part, and the part that no court action will remedy, is data leakage
17:49 🔗 shannon schbirid ... it is going to be really, really awesome .. thanks for the link... that's less expensive and less hassle than finding a flat
17:49 🔗 shannon :):):) i will be coming from good 'ol north america
17:49 🔗 schbirid shannon: you can probably find much cheaper places but that one is nice because it is right next to the venue
17:49 🔗 SketchCow Some days, you just gotta blast Infected Mushroom and get through the backlog.
17:49 🔗 schbirid last year i helped some guy find a nice airbnb place
17:50 🔗 schbirid SketchCow: run run run to the archives of the future, take what we can and bring it back home?
17:51 🔗 shannon schibirid, i did find some that were cheaper ... but yes ... and also, breakfast included is splendid. even with a budget of 100 euros per day (times two people) there is plenty left over :)
17:51 🔗 shannon oh uit's going to be so much fun
17:52 🔗 schbirid :))
17:52 🔗 shannon i have not been to a conference since H2K2
17:53 🔗 schbirid c3 is overwhelming
17:54 🔗 shannon moreso than HOPE?
17:54 🔗 shannon HOPE is overwhelming partly because it is in Manhattan
17:54 🔗 schbirid no idea, only ever been in hamburg :(
17:55 🔗 shannon the first HOPE in 2000, i met RMS and Cap'n Crunch
17:55 🔗 shannon also talked to Kevin Mitnick on the phone
17:56 🔗 shannon i have never been to Germany, so this is exciting for me
17:59 🔗 schbirid you picked a great city as starting point
18:05 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm getting my backlog of Microsoft Research uploaded
18:06 🔗 godane anyways the aol files are going good
18:06 🔗 godane i'm going to be upload a 3101 to 3300 set later today
18:23 🔗 godane SketchCow: http://orkut.google.com/en.html
18:23 🔗 godane we may have hope
19:08 🔗 SketchCow I heard this
19:08 🔗 SketchCow It makes me happy
19:45 🔗 midas jaw dropped.
19:46 🔗 antomatic nice!
19:48 🔗 joepie91_ a... community archive...
19:48 🔗 joepie91_ wow.
19:48 🔗 * joepie91_ slow claps
20:03 🔗 antomatic Better than Yahoo's "All your stuff? Gone, so gone." approach, though.
20:09 🔗 joepie91_ antomatic: it was non-sarcastically
20:16 🔗 is4 Has the JSMESS night news challenge been mentioned yet? https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/libraries/submissions/making-historic-software-eternal
20:17 🔗 antomatic joepie91_: I think Google just won some kind of yet-to-be-determined ArchiveTeam award. :)
20:18 🔗 joepie91_ yes. I think we need to invent an award
20:18 🔗 joepie91_ for not-being-shitty-about-user-content or something
20:19 🔗 joepie91_ which is a pretty low bar but somehow still isn't hit very often
20:19 🔗 antomatic The "thank you for not burning down the library" award :)
20:19 🔗 joepie91_ haha
20:19 🔗 DFJustin well the non-public stuff is still gone right
20:19 🔗 joepie91_ oh man
20:19 🔗 joepie91_ you could make a great image out of that
20:24 🔗 SketchCow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQh7a86mRo
20:32 🔗 schbirid "A beautifully engineered syncing client. You will be delighted to use it everyday."
20:32 🔗 schbirid HN in a nutshell
20:39 🔗 yipdw I thought http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m97povtiTz1rc9zsto1_500.png is HN in a nutshell
20:41 🔗 schbirid :>
21:01 🔗 xmc haha
21:28 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload The Sydney Morning Herald for year 1917
22:11 🔗 SketchCow Adding some nice menu software for an item on archive.org.
22:11 🔗 SketchCow But they so obviously made it so it works JUST well enough but then explodes and you need to pay for Customization Services.
22:12 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, that's me hating the day.
22:12 🔗 SketchCow It's a day I'm not getting anything else done. Well, except talks with the tax guy
22:28 🔗 godane i just found this: http://eric.ed.gov/
22:29 🔗 godane and pdf urls are guess-able: http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED464790.pdf
22:31 🔗 aaaaaaaaa ERIC is great, so is http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/
22:34 🔗 godane i figured at worse i give you guys a zip of the pdfs
22:34 🔗 godane i may try to upload them so we have a collection of pdfs
22:38 🔗 godane once i find the pdfs i can then get the pages with metadata: http://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ801065
22:41 🔗 Famicoman godane you around
22:51 🔗 godane Famiconman: yes
22:51 🔗 godane Famicoman: yes
23:36 🔗 yipdw "INFO: Server startup in 111495 ms"
23:36 🔗 yipdw jesus

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