#archiveteam-bs 2014-10-13,Mon

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00:19 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Apparently, Windows has a problem with environmental variables allowing execution as well: http://thesecurityfactory.be/command-injection-windows.html
00:35 🔗 joepie91 ha
00:43 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm going to be upload twit episodes from 2010
00:44 🔗 godane just know there are 2009 episodes that i uploaded to community videos
00:45 🔗 godane also episodes NSFW_161 and NSFW_162 was uploaded by someone else so they have to be moved to the NSFW collection
01:01 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Someone may want to let the IA know that they have been added to a blacklist somewhere. My ISP sent me an email about going to a website that serves malware. When I tried to email them, I got an email stating it was blocked as it was to a known spammer.
01:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa On second reading, it mentioned something called SORBS.
01:05 🔗 Diesel_ SORBS is an email black list
01:08 🔗 Diesel_ I'm not seeing them on any email black lists
01:08 🔗 Diesel_ http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3aarchive.org&run=toolpage#
01:13 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/dfc0f5c1e1a6bf0152d65d16eead74361cf8f299f3b00616044e81f4004965f7/analysis/ shows two warnings
01:14 🔗 aaaaaaaaa maybe my ISP is just behind on the delisting due to caching the list or something.
01:15 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: IA ends up on spam/malware lists sometimes
01:16 🔗 joepie91 had them removed from a list a few weeks ago
01:16 🔗 aaaaaaaaa why?
01:16 🔗 joepie91 (you can generally just email them and go "hey, this is the internet archive, probably shouldn't be on a list")
01:16 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: because sometimes people upload malware to IA
01:16 🔗 joepie91 lol
01:17 🔗 aaaaaaaaa yeah, obvious answer. I guess I just expected the list people to know about them, especially if this has happened before.
01:23 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: these lists are typically automatically compiled, using honeypots etc
04:51 🔗 godane so in the last day i have uploaded over 2k items
07:28 🔗 ersi damn godane. damn.
07:28 🔗 ersi That's plenty many
07:42 🔗 godane ersi: thats cause of the ERIC archives collection will have over 40k pdfs
16:48 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/521703527480311810
16:48 🔗 botpie91 "Asset seizures fuel police spending" http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/10/11/cash-seizures-fuel-police-spending/ Seizures? There's a much more appropriate word for this practice: Theft. (@joepie91)
16:51 🔗 aaaaaaaaa You should read some of the case names in asset forfeiture proceedings. Some are quite humorous.
16:52 🔗 aaaaaaaaa a good one is United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls.
16:52 🔗 xmc they redeem the whole practice
16:54 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Here are some of the more famous ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_civil_forfeiture_case_law
16:54 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: hahaha what
16:54 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Of course, there is also the ones where they take people's homes.
16:55 🔗 joepie91 wat
16:57 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: wat?
16:58 🔗 aaaaaaaaa http://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2014/08/26/philadelphia-civil-forfeiture-class-action-lawsuit/
16:58 🔗 aaaaaaaaa that is just one example of when forfeiture turns evil.
16:59 🔗 godane so i got another 2TB hard driv
16:59 🔗 godane *drive
17:01 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: *turns* evil?
17:01 🔗 joepie91 I'm having a hard time finding a way in which it wasn't evil to begin with
17:01 🔗 godane i just noticed byte magazine collection really doesn't have much past 1987
17:10 🔗 aaaaaaaaa What about huge drug busts or illegal weaponry or cases of fraud?
17:11 🔗 aaaaaaaaa At a minimum, I would support disgorgement
17:11 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: aside from the entire concept of forfeiture in the US (apparently) not requiring conviction and thus being extra evil regardless of the alleged (or non-alleged?) crime being committed
17:11 🔗 joepie91 I fail to see how seizure of assets in those cases is desirable for anybody other than the entity profiting off it
17:12 🔗 joepie91 the common argument is "well, it deters criminals"
17:12 🔗 joepie91 but that one gets a very big [citation needed] stamp from me
17:12 🔗 joepie91 especially because that argument does not /at all/ align with how markets work
17:12 🔗 joepie91 (which is to say that such seizures are just considered a risk of business, and thus just become a part of the price that the end user pays for the products or services being sold, not harming the people perpetrating the "crime", but the customers)
17:14 🔗 joepie91 and on top of all that, the question "are drug busts even a good thing?"
17:14 🔗 joepie91 which I'd tend to answer with "no"
17:23 🔗 balrog godane: do you scan magazines that people mail to you?
17:24 🔗 balrog have a pile of old dr. dobbs journals
17:28 🔗 godane i have not scanned in close to a year
17:28 🔗 balrog ahhh, ok
17:31 🔗 xmc joepie91: we should use civil asset forfeiture against companies that are about to delete data
17:32 🔗 xmc "sorry, that data might have involved a crime, hand it over"
17:33 🔗 aaaaaaaaa US v. 2,000 hard drives of various sizes approximating 350 TB of data
17:49 🔗 joepie91 hahaha
23:06 🔗 APerti_ http://www.thesimm.org/temp/ff_x_redux.jpg

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