#archiveteam-bs 2014-10-18,Sat

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01:47 🔗 wp494 I'm a fucking retard
01:47 🔗 wp494 I'm back in win7
01:47 🔗 wp494 so my OBS tests from win10 won't transfer of course
01:47 🔗 wp494 I couldn't be arsed to transfer them to the 10 install anyways but I digress
01:47 🔗 wp494 and I realized that I still have PTT on for mic input
01:48 🔗 * wp494 facepalms @ self
03:16 🔗 wp494 dashcloud: I think I've got a good setup
03:16 🔗 wp494 doing a second test run on 3h vhs tape now
03:17 🔗 wp494 the issue in the first one was that I had the device set to repeat only to stream (even though it's just a local record) and not repeat to desktop
03:17 🔗 wp494 therefore meaning that the audio would feedback
03:17 🔗 wp494 not in the traditional sense, but it'd...repeat
03:17 🔗 wp494 also the file size - I had it set at 5200 kbps, and I nudged it down to 3k
03:18 🔗 wp494 so just under a 50% reduction by my estimate of taking things and dividing them by 2
03:18 🔗 wp494 the funny thing was that immediately before my 2nd test run, the vcr decided to fuck up the tracking
03:18 🔗 wp494 and I thought the vhs was effed
03:19 🔗 wp494 but I turned it off and turned it on again 10 minutes later, all is pretty much fine
03:19 🔗 wp494 the only way I knew it was tracking was because the auto tracking indicator was going crazy
03:20 🔗 wp494 I nuked the first test run off of the win10 HD, but if it was the tape, I could just let the hound that is known as recuva loose on the drive
03:21 🔗 wp494 and then just re-record only for not screwed up audio
03:21 🔗 wp494 so nothing too terribly serious either way
03:21 🔗 wp494 anyways I'll shut up
03:24 🔗 Mayonaise no keep talking. this entire channel is amazing
03:25 🔗 Mayonaise i wish i knew about it from birth
03:25 🔗 wp494 keep talking? OKAY
03:25 🔗 wp494 wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords
03:25 🔗 Mayonaise are you archiving vhs tapes? what vhs tapes?
03:25 🔗 Mayonaise tell me all your thoughts
03:25 🔗 Mayonaise *sits down*
03:25 🔗 wp494 just random tapes that I have laying around
03:26 🔗 wp494 the first one is just some tv recordings
03:26 🔗 wp494 circa 2007 iirc
03:26 🔗 Mayonaise oh like a personal project and nothing to do with this channel / team thing?
03:26 🔗 wp494 half yes, half no
03:26 🔗 wp494 half yes because at the end of the day IA are the pros
03:26 🔗 wp494 half no because I intend on making a guide on the wiki with OBS and the device I'm using
03:27 🔗 wp494 said device is http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100096
03:27 🔗 Mayonaise i try to volunteer for ia but they do not even reply. the second i saw the warrior appliance earlier today i started one
03:27 🔗 Mayonaise what is obs?
03:27 🔗 wp494 and I decided to use the premier 30 day trial so it would null shipping
03:27 🔗 wp494 OBS = open broadcaster software
03:27 🔗 wp494 basically like a free xsplit, if you've ever heard of xsplit
03:28 🔗 wp494 http://obsproject.com
03:28 🔗 Mayonaise cool
03:28 🔗 wp494 OBS does external devices, but that's nothing special
03:29 🔗 wp494 from all the vhs things that I browsed
03:29 🔗 wp494 they came with powerdirector or some variant of it
03:29 🔗 wp494 and I said
03:29 🔗 wp494 "LOL NOPE, OBS"
03:29 🔗 wp494 because 1: OBS allows for so much flexibility and
03:29 🔗 wp494 2: I don't have an optical drive in my PC
03:30 🔗 wp494 also 3: I don't need an optical drive in my PC since I can grab drivers off the internet
03:31 🔗 Mayonaise can you see the output of this avermedia device in realtime on your monitor or do you just hit play on the vcr and then it starts writing to a file?
03:31 🔗 wp494 OBS lets you see in real-time
03:31 🔗 wp494 so yes
03:31 🔗 Mayonaise fuck
03:32 🔗 wp494 I can't speak for powerdirector though since optical drives are swedish to my desktop
03:32 🔗 wp494 as in, the language
03:32 🔗 wp494 also OBS lets you preview how things look before you start recording
03:32 🔗 wp494 (or streaming)
03:32 🔗 wp494 (or both)
03:34 🔗 wp494 here's how it looks: http://i.imgur.com/hxl3oZb.png
03:34 🔗 wp494 yes, as you can guess, it's some various PBS stuff
03:34 🔗 Mayonaise is that a family video? your grandfather looks sick
03:34 🔗 Mayonaise oh ok pbs
03:35 🔗 wp494 lol
03:35 🔗 wp494 there are 8mm tapes which I'll get to in a while afterwards
03:36 🔗 aaaaaaaaa what show is that? They look familiar.
03:36 🔗 wp494 eastenders
03:36 🔗 wp494 apparently pbs likes airing episodes from several years back like they're new
03:37 🔗 wp494 either that or it's just prairie public that does that (the station in ND/nw MN and MB through cable)
03:37 🔗 aaaaaaaaa PBS does that all the time.
03:37 🔗 wp494 okay, so it's not just PPTV specific
03:37 🔗 wp494 finally, some confirmation
03:38 🔗 wp494 why they don't just have several marathons of shows is beyond me
03:38 🔗 wp494 they could probably catch up within a couple of them
03:39 🔗 wp494 then again there might be FCC clearance that they have to deal with, so it'd probably only get them to a year or so behind
03:39 🔗 aaaaaaaaa the affiliate here just started showing Keeping Up Appearances, so every episode is marked as new in the tv listings.
03:39 🔗 wp494 I dunno, I'm just some canuck who knows quite a bit about recent canuck TV but only a small bit about american tv
03:40 🔗 aaaaaaaaa oh its a bbc show that finaled in 1995
03:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa but brand new here.
03:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Anyway, I am also looking forward to a guide so I can do the same for family tapes.
03:42 🔗 wp494 well wisely whatever the dcx3400-m is using as guide info ISN'T marking EE episodes as new
03:42 🔗 wp494 I dunno if it's because PBS already showed them or what
03:42 🔗 wp494 but the episodes were dated 2005
03:42 🔗 wp494 AKA just under a decade old episodes
03:43 🔗 wp494 and I just realized that the dcx3400-m also has RCA jacks
03:43 🔗 wp494 so I could just take it out
03:43 🔗 wp494 consider it an "off" day for tv
03:43 🔗 wp494 and just rip stuff
03:43 🔗 wp494 though in an inefficient manner, but the only manner that really *works*
03:44 🔗 wp494 because the HDD is esata
03:45 🔗 wp494 and chances are is that neither windows, nor os x would be able to even see the file system on it
03:45 🔗 wp494 linux *might* with the right drivers, but it'd be a PITA
03:46 🔗 wp494 or I could just buy a tv tuner and record right on the pc I'm typing this on right now
03:46 🔗 wp494 but I'd need to shove it either on my backup drive or the drive that I've got win10 on
03:48 🔗 wp494 one other thing is that I'm only slightly upscaling to 720p
03:48 🔗 wp494 1080p would just be outright retarded for vhs
03:49 🔗 wp494 but I can scrunch down to 480 if absolutely necessary
03:50 🔗 aaaaaaaaa 720p seems a bit much to as VHS is 480i I believe
03:50 🔗 aaaaaaaaa but I'd be interested to here the rational behind your decision.
03:51 🔗 aaaaaaaaa hear
03:51 🔗 wp494 I'll cite this image again: http://i.imgur.com/hxl3oZb.png
03:52 🔗 wp494 there's black bars on the sides, which is p. much unavoidable without significant alteration in obs
03:52 🔗 wp494 so 12somethingx720 becomes 10somethingx720 if I've visualized things right
03:53 🔗 wp494 but as for 720p, there isn't really much of a rationale
03:53 🔗 wp494 other than "let's try and squeeze what we can, but not to the point of complete pointlessness"
03:55 🔗 wp494 oh wow, apparently there were things as HD vhs tapes
03:55 🔗 wp494 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS#W-VHS_.2F_Digital-VHS_.28high-definition.29
03:56 🔗 wp494 TIL
04:05 🔗 aaaaaaaaa wow half a kilometer could store 50GB
04:07 🔗 wp494 the things you learn when you go on wikipedia binges
04:08 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I've lost too much free time there and on TVtropes
04:12 🔗 joepie91 goddamn, tvtropes is the worst
04:12 🔗 joepie91 :P
04:15 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Paris has a new tree sculpture: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29658502
04:15 🔗 BlueMaxim if only textfiles had a "random textfile" button
04:16 🔗 BlueMaxim could probably waste as much time there as tvtropes
04:19 🔗 wp494 oh look, there's some washington week on this tape
04:19 🔗 wp494 something IA could use if it weren't VHS quality
04:20 🔗 wp494 oop and then it cut
04:20 🔗 wp494 probably more eastenders
04:20 🔗 wp494 there's at least one full WW episode I think
04:20 🔗 wp494 "HEY YOU GUUUUUYYYYYS"
04:20 🔗 wp494 I wish that were 70s electric company
04:21 🔗 joepie91 wp494: well, IA *did* take in a rather large quantity of VHS tapes a while ago...
04:21 🔗 joepie91 :P
04:21 🔗 wp494 that is true
04:21 🔗 joepie91 BlueMaxim: shouldn't be too hard to make... >.>
04:21 🔗 wp494 but it was from around the 60s/70s
04:21 🔗 wp494 where VHS/betamax was pretty much the best quality you could get
04:22 🔗 wp494 because it was 2007 episodes, they'd probably be like "yeah we'd probably take a DVD quality recording of this episode instead" since better qualities are available
04:22 🔗 joepie91 can't hurt to upload it
04:23 🔗 joepie91 if a better quality one exists, it's superseded
04:23 🔗 joepie91 if it doesn't, you at least have a VHS copy
04:23 🔗 wp494 true, something is better than nothing
04:23 🔗 joepie91 in the case of archiving, yes :P
04:49 🔗 GLaDOS YESYESYESYESYESYESYES ITS ALL FIXED
04:49 🔗 GLaDOS hopefully
04:50 🔗 garyrh really truly probably fixed
04:51 🔗 GLaDOS What channel was it for twitpic?
04:51 🔗 garyrh #quitpic
04:51 🔗 yipdw quitpic
04:55 🔗 GLaDOS tyty
05:13 🔗 wp494 wait GLaDOS what broke?
05:13 🔗 GLaDOS IRC tunnel
05:13 🔗 GLaDOS then postgres
05:13 🔗 GLaDOS by IRC tunnel, I mean IPv6
05:30 🔗 wp494 oh hell, I might have to deal with the hell that is audio desyncing
05:42 🔗 GLaDOS audio desync <3
06:50 🔗 shannon is there a qwiki channel?
06:51 🔗 garyrh #quickie
08:01 🔗 schbirid wtf http://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/107-about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/press-release-2014/763-intel-subsidiary-agrees-to-750-000-penalty-for-unauthorized-encryption-exports
08:14 🔗 ivan` that is really weird. I wonder if some ex-employee threatened to tell BIS himself?
08:14 🔗 ivan` or perhaps they were about to go through another audit that would suck up their records
08:16 🔗 ivan` I guess the simplest explanation is that Intel hired an honest auditor and being a public company they decided to do the less-risky thing
10:45 🔗 schbirid http://archive.org/catalog.php?history=9999&search_submitter=owenhall32@i8hosting.com weird exes
11:04 🔗 w0rp Is there some way you can get wget to use caching? It would be nice not to send off requests for some files again.
11:05 🔗 schbirid -nc?
11:06 🔗 w0rp I suppose that would be okay if I could -nc only certain files.
11:07 🔗 w0rp The ideal would be to check Cache-Control headers, save the expiration dates in some file somwhere, and check URLs against the expiration dates that were saved.
11:09 🔗 w0rp -N is *okay* because it checks timestamps, but it still sends out HTTP requests which don't need to happen.
12:05 🔗 godane so i'm past 17k in my godaneinbox
12:18 🔗 godane i'm also close to getting the first 10 days of 2008 funny or die videos all uploaded
14:57 🔗 aaaaaaaaa how do you do a link in the wiki?
15:08 🔗 yan [archiveteam.org like this?]
15:09 🔗 yan for an external link
15:10 🔗 yan [[Deathwatch|for an internal link]]
15:14 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I'll just do my best and someone else can touch it up who speaks wiki.
15:17 🔗 joepie91 man I hate wiki syntax
15:17 🔗 joepie91 stupid inconsistency
15:19 🔗 SmileyG aaaaaaaaa: just shout the page once you're done, I'll take a look if i get a chance.
15:24 🔗 aaaaaaaaa thanks it is here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=TwitPic#Export_Tool_Bugs
16:40 🔗 aaaaaaaaa thanks again for fixing the link
17:16 🔗 dashcloud aaaaaaaaa: best way is to find a page with a link, edit it, copy the formatting, cancel the changes, and then go to the page you want to edit

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