#archiveteam-bs 2014-10-24,Fri

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00:50 🔗 garyrh http://data.london.gov.uk/dataset
02:16 🔗 dashcloud If you've been having a bad day, cheer up- you (probably) didn't push out a driver update that purposefully bricked counterfeit copies of your chip
02:20 🔗 BlueMaxim eh I call that a win
02:20 🔗 BlueMaxim take that, bastards!
02:20 🔗 BlueMaxim (sorry poor deluded people)
03:22 🔗 yipdw I feel like I'm getting short-tempered and/or there are more people showing up complaining about this
03:22 🔗 yipdw things
03:22 🔗 yipdw :(
03:26 🔗 aaaaaaaaa probably both due to all the high profile stuff the past few months
03:28 🔗 aaaaaaaaa you can only see the same complaint so many times before it gets to you
03:28 🔗 yipdw possibly
03:54 🔗 yipdw I don't really care about the services going offline, that's sort of a whatever
03:56 🔗 yipdw there just seems to be an expectation about archive team services that someone is maintaining and improving them as their full-time job and I really have no idea where that conception comes from
03:56 🔗 yipdw and it's frustrating as hell
03:56 🔗 pikhq People like to think that the Archive Team is some sort of well-funding organization I guess?
03:57 🔗 pikhq Rather than what it is, which is a bunch of volunteers with an IRC channel and a wiki. :)
03:57 🔗 yipdw I don't recall it being that way, and maybe that's when it was a smaller group and it was understood that these software tools had limitations, sharp edges, etc and people fixed them as they found time and motivation to do so
03:57 🔗 yipdw of course the usual disclaimer about romantization of the past applies
03:58 🔗 yipdw the other possibility, which is simpler and therefore probably more correct, is that I just really have to step away for a bit
03:59 🔗 pikhq (disclaimer, I'm not exactly a long-time participant, just this guy with a Warrior who decided maybe he should actually show up and possibly donate some meaningful after the TwitPic bs)
03:59 🔗 pikhq *meaningful effort
03:59 🔗 aaaaaaaaa part could also be the archive.org and Archiveteam confusion
03:59 🔗 yipdw it's fine, this is just me trying to introspect
04:00 🔗 yipdw in #-bs
04:00 🔗 yipdw Dear Diary, ...
04:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Does make me realize how much software has sort of become the modern voodoo with apps
04:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://m.xkcd.com/1425/ comes to mind
04:08 🔗 BlueMaxim I wonder if you could somehow fashion reverse image searching into a way of identifying objects on the internet
04:08 🔗 BlueMaxim *through the internet I should say
04:10 🔗 aaaaaaaaa google has a reverse image search that can be startlingly accurate
04:13 🔗 DFJustin it still falls down pretty hard if there's no exact match
05:22 🔗 ersi joepie91: Yeah, I understood. In Sweden, it's same - but with an exception :)
05:59 🔗 RedType boingboing'd
05:59 🔗 RedType http://boingboing.net/2014/10/23/twitpic-to-vanish-taking-800.html
07:43 🔗 yipdw waiting to hear reports of riots in New York
07:48 🔗 Rotab ebola?
13:25 🔗 schbirid huh, does www.quake.de resolve for you guys?
13:27 🔗 schbirid A record is gone
13:27 🔗 schbirid without www still exists though
13:29 🔗 godane starting to upload NPR Morning Edition for 2002-01
17:33 🔗 TFGBD sup
17:33 🔗 joepie91 TFGBD: ohai, let's continue here
17:33 🔗 joepie91 #archiveteam is only for low-volume conversation, generally :)
17:33 🔗 TFGBD i was going to tyr it in a ubuntu with colinux
17:34 🔗 TFGBD should it matter if the os is 64bit ot 32bit?
17:34 🔗 TFGBD I see :P
17:34 🔗 joepie91 go with 64 bit if you have a choice
17:34 🔗 joepie91 32 bit does come with some limitations and I don't know the code you're using well enough to say whether it's going to be affected by those
17:34 🔗 TFGBD Is there any way to get the web service to work on windows nt?
17:34 🔗 joepie91 so best to just go with 64 bit
17:35 🔗 joepie91 I have no clue, not a Windows user :)
17:35 🔗 TFGBD I tried but it seems there is no procfile runner that works on windows
17:36 🔗 TFGBD I'll try with ubuntu and see what happens
17:37 🔗 TFGBD the online web service from archive.org ddoesn't work with 10gb files either
17:37 🔗 TFGBD though, i get slightly larger files with that before it fails
17:38 🔗 TFGBD i was told there is no fix for the web service but there is one for warctozip.py and thats what i applied
17:38 🔗 TFGBD but it still didn't work
17:38 🔗 TFGBD at least on winnt
17:38 🔗 joepie91 cc yipdw
17:38 🔗 joepie91 (I still read your nick as yip yip yip yip from that sesame street thing)
17:38 🔗 joepie91 TFGBD: all I have is generic troubleshooting steps, really
17:39 🔗 yipdw ok so what WARC is this
17:39 🔗 joepie91 specifically, try another huge file and see whether and how the result differs from the first one
17:39 🔗 yipdw URL please
17:39 🔗 joepie91 from that you can often deduce details
17:52 🔗 TFGBD is there any huge file fix for the service version
17:53 🔗 TFGBD i'm not good with python
18:13 🔗 ersi_ shrug, windows. That's cute.
18:15 🔗 ersi TFGBD: So what's the problem you're encountering? That a WARC file is too big?
18:24 🔗 TFGBD yeah
18:25 🔗 TFGBD for warctozip.py on win32 python 2.7
18:27 🔗 ersi Yeah, you're gonna have a bad time with Windows. No one here uses Windows for any activities so nothing is tested on win
18:46 🔗 TFGBD i assume cygwin or interix might work, though
18:47 🔗 TFGBD i'm trying with ubuntu for now
18:52 🔗 ersi If you're not all that savvy, I'd bet using either the pre-built warrior or installing ubuntu in a VM would work out the best
18:53 🔗 TFGBD I have it setup up with colinux
18:53 🔗 TFGBD Didn't feel like makinganother vm
18:54 🔗 TFGBD It's a local install that cna also be booted in CoLinux
18:54 🔗 TFGBD which is pretty neat
18:56 🔗 ersi As long as it's not freaking Windows, hehe.
18:58 🔗 TFGBD bt isn't the whole pont of using python to be cross platform
18:59 🔗 ersi no
19:00 🔗 ersi just because you can, doesn't mean you're forced to - thankfully
21:14 🔗 RedType hmm... sf has a pumpkin fucking contest
21:15 🔗 joepie91 I wonder how the judging works
21:16 🔗 RedType https://twitter.com/docpop/status/525747233346846720
21:16 🔗 RedType nws-ish
21:24 🔗 antomatic I'm sure the judges work to very scientific rules.
21:32 🔗 joepie91 halp appreciated: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme/comments/2k7u48/cheap_500_linux_system_primarily_for_development/
21:36 🔗 Jonimus joepie91: both monitors being VGA may be an issue.
21:36 🔗 joepie91 Jonimus: I was just informed as such, regarding DVI-I vs DVI-D
21:36 🔗 joepie91 the card in that currently posted build, however, seems suitable
21:37 🔗 joepie91 as far as I can tell, it has 2 x DVI-I
21:37 🔗 joepie91 and I'm okay with the specs I think
21:37 🔗 Jonimus yeah that should work
21:37 🔗 joepie91 the build that was posted there is generally okay, just the price and the case concern me, really
21:37 🔗 joepie91 I'm also not sure that RAM is the most bang-for-the-buck option there is
21:38 🔗 joepie91 and it concerns me that there's 0 noise level info there
21:39 🔗 Jonimus you might be able to do 4x4GB for cheaper than the 2x8GB, but if you plan to upgrade later the 2x8GB is the better choice
21:44 🔗 joepie91 Jonimus: I do plan to upgrade later, probably
21:44 🔗 joepie91 I intend for this box to last at least 7-8 years :)
22:44 🔗 dashcloud whoa- kernel 3.17 will have USB over IP- you can share locally attached USB devices
22:47 🔗 godane so you can share usb over local lan?
22:47 🔗 godane *usb hard drives
22:58 🔗 dashcloud certainly sounds like it
22:58 🔗 dashcloud http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.17
22:59 🔗 gogalj if you'r looking for dope silkroadlrz.do.am
22:59 🔗 gogalj if you'r looking for dope silkroadlrz.do.am
23:02 🔗 joepie91 cute
23:02 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: sounds like that's going to open a whole new can of 0days :)

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