#archiveteam-bs 2014-11-04,Tue

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00:09 🔗 kyan Sk1d: I've had good luck with this http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle
02:39 🔗 dashcloud actually had my laptop kernel panic earlier because the memory range near the top had gone bad on the RAM chip- anyone else had something like this happen to them?
03:07 🔗 Smiley yp
06:01 🔗 chfoo i was merging in the projects.json configs and then i saw this after i pushed: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/tracker-config/commit/097326b685e08befa9ec089212cd9b9708ecb1f1
06:22 🔗 yipdw haha
06:25 🔗 joepie91 haha
06:58 🔗 BlueMaxim heehee
18:40 🔗 ersi joepie91: poke, you there?
18:42 🔗 ersi joepie91: At VPS-forge, the fuck is the nameserver 1 and 2 about? Just generally pick primary and secondary DNS resolvers?
18:50 🔗 joepie91 ersi: ohai
18:50 🔗 joepie91 ersi: oh, just enter anything, it doesn't really matter... that's a WHMCS derp
18:50 🔗 ersi ah
18:50 🔗 joepie91 you can't remove them in WHMCS AFAIK
18:50 🔗 ersi Is it used for anything?
18:50 🔗 joepie91 not that I've ever noticed
18:50 🔗 joepie91 lol
18:50 🔗 joepie91 certainly not for your VPS nameservers anyway
18:50 🔗 joepie91 I generally just enter 'ns1' and 'ns2'
18:51 🔗 joepie91 same goes for more or less every host that uses WHMCS :P
18:51 🔗 ersi :D
18:51 🔗 ersi Seems.. nice
18:51 🔗 ersi But the hostname field is actually used?
18:51 🔗 joepie91 well yes and no
18:51 🔗 joepie91 on some hosts it's set as your VPS hostname
18:51 🔗 ersi Only bad thing with VPS-forge is that they use paypal
18:52 🔗 ersi but fuck it, they're cheap
18:52 🔗 joepie91 but it's also used to identify the server in your service list
18:52 🔗 joepie91 ...?
18:52 🔗 joepie91 what else were you expecting?
18:52 🔗 joepie91 lol
18:52 🔗 ersi Anything else :D
18:52 🔗 joepie91 eh
18:52 🔗 ersi Like I said, it's fiiine - I'd rather not use paypal but they don't have any options so I'll use it
18:52 🔗 joepie91 ersi: if you don't hold a balance with them, there's not really an issue
18:53 🔗 joepie91 they can just act as a straight creditcard processor too
18:53 🔗 ersi I prefer not doing business with them in general :)
18:53 🔗 joepie91 and paypal is more or less the only payment processor that works reliably internationally, for conventional currencies...
18:53 🔗 joepie91 for some value of "reliably"
18:53 🔗 ersi Amazon Payments work nicely
18:53 🔗 joepie91 yes, and doesn't work if you don't live in the US
18:53 🔗 joepie91 or UK, maybe
18:54 🔗 ersi works for me as a Swede at least
18:54 🔗 joepie91 wut
18:54 🔗 joepie91 oh right, I presume that you have a creditcard
18:54 🔗 ersi I can't send personal money to persons, but I can pay through them
18:54 🔗 joepie91 with a CC?
18:54 🔗 joepie91 because then it's easy
18:54 🔗 joepie91 but not the entire world uses CCs :P
18:54 🔗 ersi like Kickstarter things
18:54 🔗 ersi Well yes of course I use a card
18:54 🔗 ersi what would I else use
18:54 🔗 joepie91 ...
18:54 🔗 yipdw dogecoin
18:54 🔗 ersi a cheque?
18:55 🔗 ersi bank transfer?
18:55 🔗 joepie91 ersi: a... bank account? you know, SEPA?
18:55 🔗 ersi I never use SEPA :o
18:55 🔗 joepie91 that banking system that Actually Works?
18:55 🔗 joepie91 it's the only way for me to pay online for things that do not explicitly accept iDeal, the Dutch ebanking payment thing
18:55 🔗 joepie91 PayPal account linked to SEPA bank account
18:55 🔗 ersi o_o
18:55 🔗 joepie91 creditcards are not an assumed thing in NL
18:56 🔗 joepie91 there's a *reason* so many digital services/goods use Paypal :P
18:56 🔗 joepie91 (fuck, I don't even *want* a creditcard)
18:56 🔗 ersi Well, I'd rather not use a credit card either :D
18:56 🔗 joepie91 which is possible with paypal >.>
18:56 🔗 ersi but no one accepts bank transfers also slow
18:57 🔗 ersi there are some direct debit things, but then you need to integrate with each swedish bank
18:57 🔗 ersi which is madness
18:57 🔗 joepie91 ersi: PayPal will happily play together with Swedish bank accounts, given that it's SEPA
18:57 🔗 joepie91 and yes, I hate PayPal just as much as the next person
18:57 🔗 ersi Yes, they even have a Swedish bank account so you don't have to use SEPA but can use national wiring
18:57 🔗 joepie91 but frankly
18:57 🔗 joepie91 *all* online payment processors and banks and whatnot suck shit
18:58 🔗 ersi I dunno why the banks have let this market go
18:58 🔗 joepie91 ersi: I mean automatic deductions
18:58 🔗 joepie91 you can authorize PP to automatically deduct transactions from your bank account
18:58 🔗 joepie91 so that you don't have to preload monies
18:58 🔗 ersi I would never in the world want that
18:58 🔗 ersi Why
18:58 🔗 ersi I never use automatic transfers/collections
18:58 🔗 joepie91 what's the difference from letting PP process your creditcard?
18:58 🔗 joepie91 they can still put a charge on it
18:59 🔗 ersi I can block/freeze the card at any time and reverse the charge
18:59 🔗 joepie91 same for bank accounts
18:59 🔗 ersi Yeah good luck
18:59 🔗 joepie91 you don't even have to block the account
18:59 🔗 joepie91 just the recipient
18:59 🔗 ersi If they've already drawn cash out of your account, you're fucked
18:59 🔗 joepie91 good luck? this is a /normal thing/ for SEPA
18:59 🔗 ersi as you allowed them to draw cash
18:59 🔗 joepie91 no, you're not
18:59 🔗 joepie91 that's the whole fucking point
18:59 🔗 ersi payment things suck in general
19:00 🔗 joepie91 if they charge your account for a transaction that you did not make, then your bank will refund you for it just like a CC vendor would
19:00 🔗 joepie91 it works exactly the same
19:01 🔗 ersi Guess it depends on withdrawal method
19:01 🔗 joepie91 it's all standardized across SEPA area now
19:02 🔗 joepie91 automated authorized SEPA withdrawals like what PP does are to be covered by banks
19:02 🔗 joepie91 (bonus: PayPal itself is a bank and can thus be held liable for invalid transactions)
19:02 🔗 ersi Hm
19:16 🔗 tfgbd Heh, I noticed one of you guys put a few of my uploads in the "Shareware CD" collection
19:17 🔗 tfgbd thanks
19:21 🔗 xmc you don't necessarily have a creditcard in .nl?
19:22 🔗 xmc that feels strange. everyone in the us has a card that can go through the creditcard networks, even if there's no line of credit on it
19:22 🔗 xmc not *everyone* i guess, but the overwhelming majority of people
19:24 🔗 yipdw it's particularly bad in Chicago with the Ventra transit payment syste
19:24 🔗 yipdw m
19:24 🔗 yipdw Ventra passes are also debit cards by default
19:25 🔗 yipdw so maybe not credit card per se but electronic payment tracking nonetheless
19:25 🔗 joepie91 xmc: most people in NL probably don't have a CC
19:26 🔗 joepie91 and NL is far from the only country with that
19:26 🔗 xmc aye
19:26 🔗 xmc yipdw: i might disagree with "bad" there, but ok.
19:27 🔗 yipdw bad given appropriate premises
19:27 🔗 yipdw :P
19:27 🔗 yipdw could be worse, they could be credit cards
19:32 🔗 xmc heh
19:47 🔗 DFJustin http://natmchugh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/how-i-created-two-images-with-same-md5.html
20:21 🔗 tfgbd Check it: https://archive.org/details/Post3WaysScoreCD1
20:24 🔗 garyrh heh, I uploaded CD4 in May: https://archive.org/details/post_cereal_3waystoscore_cd4
20:28 🔗 tfgbd Wow, lol
20:28 🔗 tfgbd Why are they numbered
20:28 🔗 tfgbd Is it like a "collect them all" thing?
20:29 🔗 garyrh yeah, I think that's what it was.
20:29 🔗 tfgbd feel free to merge mine into a category or something.
20:30 🔗 tfgbd I guess you don't have the box anymore
20:30 🔗 garyrh haha, no.
20:30 🔗 tfgbd Hmm, you did an ISO
20:30 🔗 tfgbd I was told to stick with bin/cue
20:30 🔗 tfgbd these post cds actually seem to require bin/cue too
20:30 🔗 tfgbd As my ripping program actually defaulted to that because it has 2 tracks
20:31 🔗 garyrh hmm, I'll take another look.
20:31 🔗 tfgbd Is the game any different on the different CDs?
20:46 🔗 godane looks like nbcnews had the full speechs in iowa on 2008-01-03
20:47 🔗 godane from huckabee and biden
20:48 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I remember all those youngins here who kept telling me how "I like Mike" was such a unique slogan.
20:49 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: definitely use bin/cue whenever you can :P
20:51 🔗 godane i now got romney in iowa speech
20:54 🔗 tfgbd So does garyrh have to re-rip his CD now ;P
20:56 🔗 garyrh i will just to be safe. :)
20:58 🔗 tfgbd Upload it to the same area
20:58 🔗 tfgbd The isos are nice too because you can look inside
20:58 🔗 tfgbd Will IA ever have an automagic bin/cue to iso converter?
21:03 🔗 godane a guy keep his trash for a year: n_brewer_trashman_080101
21:03 🔗 godane i got edwards speech
21:04 🔗 godane his speech is 47 minutes long
21:05 🔗 godane i got another speech
21:06 🔗 godane from obama
21:14 🔗 schbirid heh, i found a bug in IA's robots.txt parsing that means one huge site's mobile part is publically archived/-able even though the robots.txt seems not to allow that
21:14 🔗 schbirid i call it a bug in their robots.txt rather
21:14 🔗 schbirid seems non-standard
21:14 🔗 schbirid :))))
21:16 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: curious, have a link for me?
21:22 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload the rest of The Tech Guy audio files for 2006
22:25 🔗 godane i'm up to 14k funny or die videos
22:26 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/funnyordie/v2
23:09 🔗 yipdw http://underhanded.xcott.com/?p=26 is a pretty neat challenge
23:10 🔗 yipdw I wonder if timing variations count as information leakage by the rules

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