#archiveteam-bs 2014-11-21,Fri

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03:35 🔗 wp494 TIL from poking around in https://monitor.archive.org/pubaccess/ that apparently there's a IA cluster somewhere in alberta
04:10 🔗 yipdw that pubaccess page clearly needs more javascript
04:11 🔗 yipdw perhaps some https://github.com/square/cubism
04:13 🔗 SketchCow Are you sure that's not an address?
04:14 🔗 SketchCow I see
04:14 🔗 SketchCow No, that's also scanning centers.
04:46 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm at 61k in my godaneinbox
04:47 🔗 yipdw that sounds like my gmail inbox from long ago
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05:20 🔗 TFGBD So...would you guys cared if I removed the DRM from kindle books and uploaded them to IA...
05:22 🔗 TFGBD You know, Amazon even has a no questions asked Kindle return policy...
05:28 🔗 TFGBD I'd probably just do older computer books I don't feel like scanning
05:57 🔗 yipdw i don't think anyone in here cares but it'd be a real dick move from IA's perspective
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06:02 🔗 DFJustin I wouldn't worry about stuff that's current and available via kindle, they are aggressively obtaining books through various channels and that kind of thing will end up in IA without your help
06:10 🔗 DFJustin go for things that are obscure and out of print or only posted on some author's angelfire page
07:24 🔗 TFGBD Some of these are out of print but on Kindle
07:24 🔗 TFGBD There are some ebooks available from Ebscohost via my local library too
07:24 🔗 TFGBD but they are a pain to download
07:25 🔗 TFGBD I will likely need to download each page as 1 pdf and combine them later
07:25 🔗 TFGBD And they are sadly missing the bundled CDs too
07:26 🔗 TFGBD Also, any idea why a page would suddenly disappear from IA after a few years
07:26 🔗 TFGBD http://web.archive.org/web/20071219122710/http://tfgbd.web1000.com/x86+CE+software.txt now seems dead
07:27 🔗 TFGBD Nevermind. seems they changed space handling or something
07:27 🔗 TFGBD http://web.archive.org/web/20071219122710/http://tfgbd.web1000.com/x86%20CE%20software.txt works
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12:57 🔗 nico_work http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FurAffinity&diff=prev&oldid=20707 <= lol
12:58 🔗 schbirid2 :)
12:58 🔗 schbirid2 in some professions, that is paper worthy
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13:51 🔗 w0rp I figured out that you can run the warrior with the Virtualbox headless mode.
13:51 🔗 w0rp So now I don't need to bother with putting scripts on my home server, I just downloaded the warrior and started it on the machine.
13:52 🔗 w0rp I connect to the web interface the same way I do anything from one machine to another with TCP ports. I use an SSH tunnel.
14:00 🔗 joepie91 w0rp: be aware that there can be considerable overhead depending on how many resources you have to spare :)
14:02 🔗 w0rp I think this machine can manage.
14:02 🔗 w0rp It doesn't do a whole lot. It just bounces IRC.
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16:02 🔗 nico_work some time ago, i converted the warrior to a lxc container
16:02 🔗 nico_work it worked but the lxc part was too instable
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16:18 🔗 joepie91 2GB RAM, 50GB disk, 3TB monthly traffic on gbit port, 1 IPv4, really shitty provider, $75 for 3 years
16:18 🔗 joepie91 who wants
16:19 🔗 joepie91 (it's chicagovps)
16:52 🔗 schbirid2 so you are going to pay me 75$ for taking it for 3 years?
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17:38 🔗 DFJustin http://klikki.fi/adv/wordpress_press.html
17:43 🔗 schbirid2 on 10.12.2014 .software tld will gome
17:43 🔗 schbirid2 come
17:43 🔗 schbirid2 i want butt.hosting
17:54 🔗 Rallias Don't forget, the offer joepie91 posted about includes a lifetime subscription to password publishing, spam, and inadequacy.
18:03 🔗 joepie91 yep :)
18:03 🔗 botpie91 joepie91: 16:31Z <arb735> tell joepie91 I was wondering, could we get a leave a message to ourselves function for botpie91, as sort of reminder/we need to do this when we get back sort of thing
18:03 🔗 joepie91 .in 1s test
18:03 🔗 botpie91 joepie91: Okay, will remind in 1 secs
18:03 🔗 botpie91 joepie91: test
18:04 🔗 joepie91 botpie91: tell arb735 that yes, that functionality exists - try for example ".in 5s reminder to wharble the gharble" (without the quotes) - it accepts all common time denominations, and if you need a specific date/time, you can use .at instead iirc
18:04 🔗 botpie91 joepie91: I'll pass that on when arb735 is around.
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18:22 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/skyhoshi/status/535854118267813888
18:22 🔗 botpie91 @Bitcasa @BitcasaSupport I'm lawyering up and that's it. see your asses in court. (@skyhoshi)
18:23 🔗 joepie91 looks like they baleeted
18:24 🔗 Smiley baleeted?
18:24 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: yes, they deleted the data of their infinite customers
18:24 🔗 Smiley derp
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18:48 🔗 sep332 old tweets - what a record https://twitter.com/h0d3r
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18:52 🔗 midas pizza \o/
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19:20 🔗 balrog joepie91: wow...
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19:22 🔗 joepie91 balrog: ?
19:22 🔗 balrog about bitcasa
19:22 🔗 joepie91 not terribly surprised
19:22 🔗 joepie91 the restraining order expired
19:23 🔗 joepie91 and bitcasa has already shown not to give a crap
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19:23 🔗 balrog it's still unreasonable to expect people to be able to offload that much data that quickly
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19:23 🔗 joepie91 balrog: of course it is, welcome to capitalism :)
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19:30 🔗 balrog http://recode.net/2014/11/20/a-note-to-recode-readers/
19:36 🔗 joepie91 You’ll see some design and functionality revisions aimed at making the site quicker to load and easier to navigate and use.
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19:36 🔗 joepie91 very amusing
19:36 🔗 joepie91 seeing as it's taking me several seconds to load that article
19:37 🔗 joepie91 also, what they are describing is a horrible idea
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19:37 🔗 xmc turning off comments?
19:37 🔗 xmc I think comments don't belong on the web
19:38 🔗 xmc they just encourage vitriol
19:38 🔗 joepie91 no, "moving comments to social media"
19:38 🔗 joepie91 and I hope you're joking
19:39 🔗 xmc i'm completely serious
19:39 🔗 xmc i will never choose to add comments to a site of mine again
19:39 🔗 xmc if people want to talk, they can talk in their own space
19:39 🔗 xmc my websites are for me to talk
19:40 🔗 xmc *shrug*
19:40 🔗 joepie91 xmc: I'll leave you to wonder about the hypocrisy of that statement...
19:41 🔗 joepie91 specifically in relation to [20:37] <xmc> I think comments don't belong on the web
19:41 🔗 xmc still not sure what you're saying
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20:16 🔗 joepie91 xmc: you state comments don't belong on the web - your "site of mine" is nothing but your comments in a slightly different layout from the comments section on somebody elses site
20:17 🔗 joepie91 by extension, you are saying that what you write on your site thus does not belong on the web
20:18 🔗 xmc i think you know what i actually mean
20:26 🔗 joepie91 xmc: if you want me to go by what I *think* you mean, then I'm going to say that your reasoning is bullshit and fallacious :P
20:26 🔗 xmc k
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20:26 🔗 joepie91 but I figured I wouldn't make that assumption from the start, benefit of the doubt and all that
20:26 🔗 joepie91 my key counterpoint being: the format doesn't make the content, even if it influences it
20:26 🔗 joepie91 and if you want unidirectional publishing, then really, you don't need the internet
20:26 🔗 xmc i've seen very few comments sections on websites that encourage quality discussion
20:27 🔗 xmc s/encourage/facilitate/
20:27 🔗 joepie91 I can agree with that, I'm just saying that that doesn't mean the *idea* of comments is bad
20:27 🔗 xmc not what i meant
20:27 🔗 joepie91 it just means that there are way too few people who put real thought into it
20:27 🔗 xmc right.
20:27 🔗 joepie91 well, that's what I thought you meant
20:27 🔗 xmc also: i don't want to take on the responsibility of facilitating a discussion on my personal web properties
20:27 🔗 joepie91 discourse people are some of the very few people who are working on this problem (and with mixed success, so far)
20:28 🔗 xmc because i've seen too many discussion fora devolve into namecalling and worse
20:28 🔗 joepie91 yep, and it is very much to do with the platform
20:28 🔗 xmc i recently took offline a web property of mine because i couldn't commit to grooming the discussions
20:29 🔗 joepie91 hell, just look at the kind of threads on different forums, and group them by the forum software used
20:29 🔗 joepie91 you'll find that forums using similar forum software, will have similar attitudes from the users
20:29 🔗 xmc mmm
20:29 🔗 xmc i assumed the hypocrisy you called me out for was because i'm talking on irc?
20:31 🔗 joepie91 xmc: no, it was based on my original perception that your issue was with people placing comments on the internet
20:31 🔗 xmc (i should emphasize that i pulled back from this conversation initially not because i disliked the topic, but because i knew it would require a good deal of emotional energy from me)
20:31 🔗 xmc oh
20:31 🔗 joepie91 because publishing your own site/blog/whatever is effectively the same thing in a differen format
20:31 🔗 joepie91 different *
20:31 🔗 joepie91 but apparently that perception was incorrect
20:31 🔗 xmc i oppose the knee-jerk response that people have "every webpage should have comments"
20:32 🔗 xmc which leads to shitty comment threads everywhere
20:32 🔗 joepie91 I oppose both knee-jerk responses - "every webpage should have comments" and "comments have no place on the internet" are both equally wrong :P
20:32 🔗 xmc fair
20:33 🔗 xmc imo, the "let's add comments to this" discussion should start out with "no. convince me."
20:35 🔗 joepie91 agreed
20:35 🔗 xmc cool. so be it decided.
20:37 🔗 xmc i think that you and i generally have compatible opinions, but we state them from opposite directions.
20:37 🔗 joepie91 heh
20:37 🔗 joepie91 xmc: as long as we can figure it out eventually, that's fine :p
20:38 🔗 xmc i woud like it if not every disagreement we have takes a screenful of irc to figure out that we don't actually disagree
20:39 🔗 xmc anyway. back to work, i guess.
20:40 🔗 joepie91 xmc: I'm sure our conversations will optimize over time :
20:40 🔗 joepie91 :P *
20:40 🔗 midas so joepie91, the big bitcasa purge has started?
20:40 🔗 * midas is reading twitter atm
20:42 🔗 joepie91 midas: has finished*, apparently
20:44 🔗 midas great startup story, sorry we lost everything. Bye!
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21:32 🔗 xmc i can't imagine why the people at bitcasa thought they could make the costs pencil
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22:12 🔗 midas hello bitcasa: http://i.imgur.com/wAmPLid.gif
22:42 🔗 godane SketchCow: your getting a msn 6.0 internet access cd
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22:54 🔗 midas how many minutes of dailup does it include godane ?
22:54 🔗 godane it doesn't say
22:54 🔗 midas assume unlimited!
22:54 🔗 godane it the MSN setup disc i think when you get a subscription to MSN
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22:54 🔗 * midas installs modem in pc
22:55 🔗 godane i also got a aol 500 hours cd too
22:56 🔗 godane aol platinum premier version 5.0
22:56 🔗 midas lol
22:56 🔗 godane and there is a sticker on saying up to 700 hours
22:57 🔗 midas haha, the good old days
22:58 🔗 * joepie91 amused at "free internet" CDs
22:58 🔗 joepie91 the microtransaction scam of the 90s
22:58 🔗 joepie91 lol
22:59 🔗 godane the hours thing makes more sense when it was by the hour
22:59 🔗 Atluxity I had some buddies calling me up regarding those, real excited; "Woah, I got this really cool cd from this dude, it got the internet on it! can you help me set it up?"
22:59 🔗 Atluxity sigh
23:05 🔗 SketchCow So, uber posted their analysis of one night stands
23:05 🔗 SketchCow Called "Rides of Glory"
23:05 🔗 SketchCow enator asks about it
23:05 🔗 yipdw we got a copy
23:05 🔗 SketchCow senator
23:05 🔗 SketchCow Delets it
23:05 🔗 SketchCow We have it. YEs
23:06 🔗 Atluxity :)
23:06 🔗 SketchCow So if there's ever a company that will try to sue it out, it's them.
23:06 🔗 yipdw maybe, I think
23:06 🔗 yipdw let me double-check
23:07 🔗 yipdw hmm shit maybe not
23:07 🔗 yipdw that or it hasn't landed in a go pack
23:07 🔗 SketchCow ia has it no concerns
23:08 🔗 yipdw oh ok
23:08 🔗 midas sometimes we're so redundant
23:10 🔗 SketchCow Well, some stuff is VERY high profile
23:10 🔗 SketchCow I'd rather archive.org and archive team grab the same stuff
23:10 🔗 SketchCow THan neither
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23:18 🔗 godane i'm now going after water mark church
23:18 🔗 godane only cause glenn beck is talking to them today
23:22 🔗 godane i have to save those anyways cause there hosted on a s3.amazonaws.com
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23:48 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-msn-internet-access-6.0
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