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00:31 πŸ”— yipdw heh http://blog.samaltman.com/the-software-revolution
00:31 πŸ”— yipdw "Two of the biggest risks I see emerging from the software revolutionβ€”AI and synthetic biologyβ€”may put tremendous capability to cause harm in the hands of small groups, or even individuals."
00:31 πŸ”— yipdw Sam Altman, so focused on the forest he can't see the trees
01:19 πŸ”— balrog sets mode: +oooo yipdw chazchaz closure dashcloud
01:19 πŸ”— balrog sets mode: +oooo Famicoman Lord_Nigh antomatic arkiver
01:20 πŸ”— balrog sets mode: +oooo raylee Jonimus joepie91 godane
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03:08 πŸ”— dashcloud I've been experimenting with different formats for capturing tapes, and the lossless mode for h264 is promising- (yes, it exists and is exactly what it says) it's amazingly good on drive space while pushing your CPU very hard (I left a recording go by accident for almost 12.5 hours, and ended up with a 67 GB file).
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03:13 πŸ”— balrog dashcloud: this is for VHS or analogue tape?
03:14 πŸ”— dashcloud VHS tape- this one in particular was a commercial tape
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03:30 πŸ”— SketchCow It appears that we aren't getting more halo?
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09:36 πŸ”— joepie91 hey look, somebody reinvented the arcade: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Activity-bars-let-patrons-play-with-their-food-5984181.php
09:53 πŸ”— xmc everything old is new again
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15:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Boop
15:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Always start the day at 7am
15:19 πŸ”— SketchCow That's me, the early riser
15:19 πŸ”— SketchCow That's how you get to be CEO of Archive Team
15:19 πŸ”— * SketchCow has his staff get right on that, whatever that is
15:20 πŸ”— Control-S It's always 7AM somewhere in the world
15:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Shhh, I'm pretending I'm productive
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16:17 πŸ”— xmc 7am is a time invented by eastcoaster when they're on the westcoast for business
16:18 πŸ”— xmc and designed to irritate westcoasters
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16:57 πŸ”— DFJustin big arcade find in new york apparently https://onlineinternetauctions.com/auction-019/auctionDetails.htm?auctionId=2027
17:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Worth looking into
17:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Rye Playland
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18:58 πŸ”— yipdw Control-S: FWIW, room+board as part of compensation is a real thing that has happened in at least one case that I know of
18:58 πŸ”— yipdw the early days of Sierra On-Line
18:58 πŸ”— yipdw Ken Williams would provide housing for his employees
18:59 πŸ”— yipdw I'm sure that that is not the only case
18:59 πŸ”— yipdw I've just been re-reading Hackers recently for no good reason
18:59 πŸ”— Control-S There are rules to make sure it's not used to suck up large portions of wages, right?
18:59 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa there are complicated rules that a one sentence summary doesn't provide, yes.
18:59 πŸ”— yipdw I don't know
19:00 πŸ”— Control-S like "We pay each employee 50 dollars per hour, and charge them 49 dollars per hour room and board"
19:00 πŸ”— yipdw federal minimum wage laws apply for nonexempt employees
19:00 πŸ”— yipdw I don't think the same thing applies to exempt employees
19:00 πŸ”— yipdw but I haven't looked
19:01 πŸ”— yipdw oh wait, it's in that page aaaaaaaaa linked
19:01 πŸ”— yipdw http://www.dol.gov/whd/overtime/fs17a_overview.pdf
19:03 πŸ”— balrog yipdw: there are rules that apply to exempt employees
19:03 πŸ”— balrog yeah that pdf covers it*
19:03 πŸ”— balrog meant Control-S there, not yipdw
19:05 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa FYI, that is one reason that Walmart and other employers like to call every position "manager"
19:05 πŸ”— Control-S courts let that shit fly?
19:05 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa no, but stupid people who get confused by googling it do
19:05 πŸ”— yipdw what shit
19:06 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa well, stupid is too strong, uninformed
19:06 πŸ”— yipdw the walmart shit or the exemption shit
19:06 πŸ”— Control-S the manager thing
19:07 πŸ”— yipdw well your job title doesn't matter re: exemptions so I'm not sure that is anything actionable
19:09 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa right but you'd be surprised what some companies get away with because people don't complain because they don't know better.
19:09 πŸ”— yipdw yeah, that or those people aren't in a position to risk their employment
19:09 πŸ”— yipdw in either case it makes Wal-Mart shitty but I guess that's nothing new
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19:20 πŸ”— SketchCow So much anger
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19:24 πŸ”— Control-S anyone here know of any examples of code to save to WARC from python
19:24 πŸ”— Control-S ?
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19:28 πŸ”— yipdw Control-S: wpull
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw I mean, as in you could just use wpull
19:31 πŸ”— Control-S gonna have to learn python 3 now arent i
19:33 πŸ”— yipdw if you already know Python in 2.x it's not a huge jump
19:33 πŸ”— yipdw I suggest wpull because generating a WARC by throwing in fields and bodies is possible but also very error-prone
19:34 πŸ”— yipdw also we know that wpull's WARCs are readable by Wayback, warc-proxy, and (if you loosen pywb's parsing rules for URNs) pywb
19:34 πŸ”— yipdw I am seeing many advantages and not many disadvantages
19:34 πŸ”— yipdw if you already have request/response data in some standard format chfoo can probably point you at ways to decouple the WARC code
19:34 πŸ”— Control-S I pretty much want something I can just give a URL to, get a response from, and repeat, with the end result being all requests are saved to the warc
19:35 πŸ”— yipdw that's called wpull
19:35 πŸ”— Control-S okay
19:35 πŸ”— yipdw also archivebot
19:35 πŸ”— xmc chfoo: i'll be keeping an eye on the tracker's console
19:35 πŸ”— Control-S So I can use my own url generation and acceptance code
19:37 πŸ”— Control-S like for n in xrange(start,stop): get("URLURLURL"+str(n)+"URLURLURL"
19:37 πŸ”— yipdw wpull accepts a URL list
19:37 πŸ”— yipdw so yes
19:37 πŸ”— yipdw archivebot exposes that via !ao < URL
19:38 πŸ”— Control-S can i do ^ but with html = get(foo); next_url = process_html(html)?
19:39 πŸ”— Control-S im a bit drunk atm, but i want to get some code going
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw there's ways to script wpull
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw http://wpull.readthedocs.org/en/master/scripting.html
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw http://wpull.readthedocs.org/en/master/api/hook.html#wpull.hook.Callbacks
19:39 πŸ”— Control-S thanks!
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw I'm wondering what this is for
19:39 πŸ”— Control-S writing archiver for fanfiction.net
19:40 πŸ”— Control-S nicer one
19:40 πŸ”— Control-S and probably using for future stuff one i get a feel for the library
19:40 πŸ”— yipdw it seems easier to figure out all the stories that aren't archived and generate a URL list from there
19:41 πŸ”— schbirid lol, gpg file decryption opens a dialog for the pw where you cannot fucking paste into
19:41 πŸ”— yipdw feed that into some existing URL-based archiving tool
19:41 πŸ”— Control-S old stories might have been updated though
19:41 πŸ”— yipdw they also have last-modified dates
19:41 πŸ”— yipdw so you can use those
19:41 πŸ”— Control-S oh
19:42 πŸ”— schbirid and now it somehow remembered my blank input as password for a file and does not prompt again
19:42 πŸ”— schbirid great software
19:42 πŸ”— yipdw just because ffnet-grab is old and pre-seesaw doesn't mean its results are totally worthless
19:42 πŸ”— yipdw heh
19:42 πŸ”— xmc blank password! hackers will never try that one :D
19:42 πŸ”— schbirid kaspersky probably wouldnt
19:42 πŸ”— Control-S I have a machine with a one character password
19:43 πŸ”— Control-S lazymode media box
19:44 πŸ”— schbirid wtf, even gpa uses the blank password
19:44 πŸ”— schbirid i dont even know where it was saved
19:45 πŸ”— Control-S zero length file
19:46 πŸ”— Control-S which it then removed because it was not needed
19:46 πŸ”— Control-S since it was zero length
19:47 πŸ”— schbirid this fails the same way: gpg --passphrase my1331passphrase file.gpg
19:48 πŸ”— Control-S we should have a bot that just archives any link in one of the archiveteam channels
19:48 πŸ”— yipdw we do
19:48 πŸ”— Control-S so if i type in http://example.com/target/ it loads it and archives it?
19:49 πŸ”— yipdw no, but you could send it to that bot
19:49 πŸ”— schbirid anyone smart enough to decrypt https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60674586/TTIP_FiRe_REIMON.pdf.gpg with the passphrase r31m0n#TTIPleaks7890 ?
19:49 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa Control-S: #archivebot is pretty darn close
19:49 πŸ”— yipdw auto is a bit too far for me
19:49 πŸ”— Control-S if it was recursive on auto, i'd agree
19:50 πŸ”— yipdw writing an auxillary bot that translates detected URLs to !ao URL isn't that bad
19:50 πŸ”— yipdw if you'd like that please feel free to write it
19:50 πŸ”— yipdw or convince someone else to
19:50 πŸ”— Control-S okay maybe i'll give it a try
19:50 πŸ”— yipdw I'd do it but I am falling behind on everything as is
19:51 πŸ”— Control-S prolly when im sober tho
19:51 πŸ”— Control-S is the bot on a repo somewhere?
19:51 πŸ”— Control-S if it's got existing code i can try now
19:52 πŸ”— yipdw there's a running instance in #archivebot and the source code is https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot
19:52 πŸ”— Control-S ty
19:53 πŸ”— yipdw setting it up requires a fair bit of experience with Linux systems
19:54 πŸ”— Control-S so it might be better to just slap together a simple chatbot that pms the archivebot?
19:54 πŸ”— schbirid lol, i am really too dumb to decrypt this
19:54 πŸ”— yipdw yes, the IRC interface is the only publicly documented and stable interface
19:55 πŸ”— schbirid moved .gnupg, retried, entered password and got "gpg: decryption failed: Invalid cipher algorithm"
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21:03 πŸ”— Ctrl-S who was i talking to about URLs and chatbots?
21:05 πŸ”— ersi_ You were talking to a MegaHAL instance
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21:06 πŸ”— Kazzy Ctrl-S: yipdw, by the looks of it
21:08 πŸ”— Ctrl-S HAL, open the archive.org garage door please.
21:10 πŸ”— ersi Wrong kind of "HAL"
21:11 πŸ”— ersi The other kind would respond with gibberish or more gibberish :)
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21:22 πŸ”— sep332 schbirid: some reason you have to decrypt it, instead of downloading https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60674586/TTIP_FiRe_REIMON.pdf ?
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21:41 πŸ”— joepie91 obtained: http://www.tcocd.de/Pictures/Peripheral/Genius/gs4500.shtml
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23:28 πŸ”— godane more JIBS News General is coming
23:29 πŸ”— godane november and december of 2008
23:29 πŸ”— godane if anyone can look for subtitles for these videos then do so
23:30 πŸ”— godane i would try looking at jibstv.com first
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