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good news is dnsmasq is seeing the urls i'm putting in |
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schbirid |
i used wpull to grab some sites with --header="Accept-Encoding: gzip" writing directly into a warc.gz |
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schbirid |
now when i extract that with warcat i get lots of .html files which are actually gzipped |
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schbirid |
is there a way to tell warcat to extract gz when extracting? |
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ersi |
warcat | gzip -d ? :) |
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schbirid |
is that guessing? i dont see how that could work :P |
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schbirid |
i used "python3 -m warcat extract file.warc.gz" which gave mea nice directory structure |
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ersi |
that's totally guessing |
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ersi |
I would expect something named cat to act like similarily to cat :) |
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schbirid |
:) |
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schbirid |
lol fuck mozilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155515 |
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ersi |
uh? |
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schbirid |
https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/05/13/get-a-firefox-account-and-test-new-features-in-firefox-beta/ they got $$$ in their Pocket |
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ersi |
so? |
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ersi |
Have you donated to Mozilla any time in the past? |
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schbirid |
so? |
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schbirid |
there is ethics and there is no ethics |
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ersi |
sure because we're all ADD type programmer IT people and the world is black and white/binary |
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schbirid |
*slap* |
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ersi |
good, you should slap yourself occationally |
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ersi |
:) |
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schbirid |
i'll remind you when firefox comes with the ask toolbar and a free virus scan |
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04HY07PE08RB03OL02E0606 |
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ersi |
Heh, sure - do that. |
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schbirid |
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000lajPWaBC.X0/fit=1000x750/Skeleton-hand-about-to-click-on-the-mouse-button.jpg |
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yipdw |
so that Firefox Hello thing looks neat |
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yipdw |
I share websites *often* by pasting URLs over Skype |
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yipdw |
it would be nice to avoid that extra indirection, and besides I still trust Mozilla more re: privacy than I do Microsoft |
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ersi |
but but but.. no ethicss!!!!! |
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its really about ethics in web browsing |
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schbirid |
Mozilla Sealion |
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yipdw |
ethics in web browsing will be a thing when you start sharing bit.ly links to lemonparty or something |
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yipdw |
maybe Hello will expand URL shorteners |
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yipdw |
actually |
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yipdw |
I wonder if that sharing protocol is documented and open |
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yipdw |
ArchiveBot as a share recipient => your current tabs saved |
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yipdw |
Wayback as a share recipient => ditto |
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yipdw |
this is slightly easier than web.archive.org/save and can also be done asynchronously |
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joepie91_ |
man, wtf has Mozilla been smoking lately |
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Jonimus |
yeah, supporting the windows only Adobe DRM thing seems really really dumb |
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Jonimus |
and there have been quite a few user hostile UI changes recently as well. |
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yipdw |
eh, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for those (not for the ad tiles thing, though) |
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yipdw |
my observations have been that the "user-hostile" changes are not that big of a deal for many people who use Firefox |
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yipdw |
and at this point I don't even really care |
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yipdw |
i don't interact with most of the browser beyond the viewport anyway |
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except to tell RequestPolicy to unblock something |
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yipdw |
the EME thing sucks but I think it is good that the Firefox UI frames it as a question of whether you, the user, want to give up rights |
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yipdw |
so that's one step |
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Chrome, Safari etc don't even do that |
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joepie91_ |
[19:24] <yipdw> my observations have been that the "user-hostile" changes are not that big of a deal for many people who use Firefox |
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yipdw |
yep I wrote that |
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joepie91_ |
the moment "big of a deal for many people" becomes a relevant data point, you've already lost |
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joepie91_ |
because it means you've lost the principles |
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yipdw |
I mean that they have actually been positive |
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joepie91_ |
having trouble seeing the positive results of Mozilla's recent decisions |
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yipdw |
many people do :) |
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yipdw |
however, here's one example |
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yipdw |
I know a lot of people hate Australis for what it removed from configuration, and how it broke a ton of addons |
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joepie91_ |
yipdw: many people also completely fail to explain said "positive results", so let's not use that as a metric, shall we? |
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yipdw |
but it is quite a speedup |
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and improved responsiveness is a plus |
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joepie91_: ok sure |
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joepie91_ |
yipdw: right. that is a technical decision, and not within my range of complaints |
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joepie91_ |
ref https://vpsboard.com/topic/7009-mozilla-bundles-proprietary-extension-with-firefox/ |
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yipdw |
it's also a significant UX improvement |
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yipdw |
ok, that bundling sucks |
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yipdw |
I'm not going to defend that |
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joepie91_ |
yipdw: right, but that's my point - they've become more and more disconnected from their principles and their userbase as of late |
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yipdw |
Mozilla could probably use a straightening-out of their public image, yes |
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joepie91_ |
the "followup FAQ" to the TLS criticism was half-assed at best |
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joepie91_ |
they didn't seem to really read and take into account the criticism |
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joepie91_ |
they're pretty much at the point where Google is now |
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joepie91_ |
"this has been decided, and is what will happen, deal with it" |
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joepie91_ |
it's not just public image, it's the entire way things are done :| |
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yipdw |
I'm including their public plan in that too, sorry |
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joepie91_ |
it's that they're a non-profit on paper (right?) because otherwise I'd think it were a corp who just hadn't quite figured out their business model yet |
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joepie91_ |
going off their behaviour alone |
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yipdw |
right now their behavior makes it hard to figure out just who is in control there |
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schbirid |
definitely not brandon eich |
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yipdw |
joepie91_: do you have a link to that followup FAQ |
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yipdw |
oh wait, found it |
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yipdw |
yeah, that FAQ doesn't address the question "why should I need institutional approval to run a first-class website" |
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yipdw |
that's sad |
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joepie91_ |
yipdw: it basically avoids half the points made and repeats the same answers that eg. I already contradicted in my blogpost (which was posted before their FAQ) |
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joepie91_ |
it's a corporate non-response as far as I'm concerned |
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joepie91_ |
"it's all okay, hush now" |
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yipdw |
fixing the self-signed certificate warning would be a good start to lessening the institutional problem, I think |
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joepie91_ |
yep |
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yipdw |
that said how the fuck do you do that |
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joepie91_ |
the suggestion to treat self-signed as unencrypted from a UX perspective is a good one |
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yipdw |
well, the FAQ does address self-signed certs...a little |
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yipdw |
" if you have ideas for how to improve the user experience here, please let us know" |
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yipdw |
heh |
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yipdw |
I guess that means they're in the same "we have no idea what to do" boat |
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yipdw |
which is fair |
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yipdw |
I'm gonna bring back sneakernet, but with TLS certificate fingerprints printed on tokens passed between people who know each other |
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yipdw |
it is utterly impractical but it does allow for the cyberpunk future we deserve |
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joepie91_ |
yipdw: there have been a few good discussions on hackernews and elsewhere |
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joepie91_ |
so if they want feedback.. well, they can join the discussion there |
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yipdw |
about the cyberpunk future we deserve? |
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yipdw |
oh TLS self-signed certs |
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yipdw |
you got my hopes up :( |
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joepie91_ |
yeah, TLS certs |
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joepie91_ |
:P |
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aaaaaaaaa |
yipdw: regarding requestpolicy https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077185 |
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yipdw |
oh great |
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yipdw |
this is why I feel bad about not directly funding 99% of the OSS I use |
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aaaaaaaaa |
yep, disabled it even though it is incompatible with a feature that isn't enabled by default |
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aaaaaaaaa |
eh, who knows if that would have made a difference in this case |
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yipdw |
it may not have but being able to make money from a project makes a big difference in motivation |
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DFJustin |
https://twitter.com/konklone/status/598696478018666496 |
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yipdw |
oh nice |
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<link href="http://connected.southwestwifi.com/unb/unb.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> |
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joepie91_ |
oh yes of course |
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joepie91_ |
why use internal domains? |
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joepie91_ |
or hosts, rather |
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joepie91_ |
let's use a not-publicly-routable host on a public domain instead! |
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schbirid |
is .wifi available? |
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yipdw |
we can buy one |
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schbirid |
we could use it ssid registry for $$$ |
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*as |
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hmm, don't see it on the list. I was almost certain that donuts would have scooped that one up. |
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godane |
SketchCow: i see the crap i uploaded to your ftp are now on archive.org |
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Yes, I am finally banging through as much of the to-do as I can. |
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godane |
so i got wikipedia for schools |
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godane |
i'm have been working on make a usb linux with some of byzantium features |
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i couldn't figure out how my fake-webiste script was not working with the byzantium mesh |
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godane |
turns out that the only ip i could use was the client ip of wlan1:1 |
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i think the only reason i was having problems was cause of dnsmasq not be restarted |
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godane |
i'm starting to upload the GBA Scene releases |
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godane |
i'm uploading them to FOS |
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SketchCow |
I saw. |
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godane |
i was right about the before 2005 rule being broking with gba scene releases |
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godane |
i was reading the nfo files and some was released in late 2006 |
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joepie91_ |
godane: before 2005 rule? |
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godane |
yes |
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godane |
the site is from the people that made underground gamer |
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godane |
btw there was alot of 2in1 packs released after 2005 |
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SimpBrain |
ug was a good site |
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schbirid |
godane: mind the rules of that site... |
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godane |
i saved there old forums and images in 2012-09 |
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joepie91_ |
godane: what is the "before 2005 rule"? |
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godane |
oh |
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godane |
they try to only have games released before 2005-01-01 |
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godane |
i think this only apply to software/games |
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joepie91_ |
godane: huh, why? |
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godane |
they try to be retro |
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godane |
also they try to keep to games of console that are not full sale |
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godane |
*for sale |
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joepie91_ |
right. |
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joepie91_ |
seems arbitrary :) |
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godane |
the original owners of underground gamer ran bit-gamer |
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godane |
from what i could tell |
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SketchCow is uploading 4,432 video sermons because that was needed. |
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godane |
SketchCow: its official |
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godane |
these roms do have the scene logos at the front |
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