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20:25 🔗 winr4r well, i almost fed this stray then sent her away against her protests https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHpbCPmUwAA7ked.jpg:large
20:26 🔗 winr4r then i remembered SketchCow's video in which he was like "realise when someone has joined the family, and might need medical attention"
20:26 🔗 winr4r and now i have adopted a supervillain's cat
20:27 🔗 xmc that cat is adorbs
20:27 🔗 xmc if you needed a second opinion
20:27 🔗 winr4r second opinion appreciated to confirm i was right in adopting her \o/
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20:29 🔗 winr4r her fur was all matted up so when she first came by i spent hours for several evenings teasing them out, but there were some bits that i couldn't do without upsetting her, so she had a visit to the vet to have those bits shaved
20:34 🔗 winr4r anyway, thanks SketchCow, i was gonna feed her then put her out again but i came to my senses when i thought about socks and sockelganger
20:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa sockelganger is an awesome name.
20:41 🔗 winr4r it is
20:41 🔗 winr4r i need a better name than "Cat", or "Dog" (because she answers to that, i was out of ideas)
20:42 🔗 SketchCow name her sockington
20:43 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: i do not want to cause the end of the world wherein they both fight it out to be the One Sockington
20:44 🔗 aaaaaaaaa just make sure they never meet.
20:44 🔗 aaaaaaaaa that plan always works, right?
20:44 🔗 winr4r it would be destiny, like neo and smith in the matrix
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21:17 🔗 joepie91 "Today, the ruling came out and it's a disaster. In short, websites can be declared liable for things people post in comments. As we explained last year, the details of the case were absolutely crazy. The court had found that even if a website took down comments after people complained, it could still be held liable because it should have anticipated bad comments in the first place."
21:18 🔗 joepie91 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150616/11252831361/huge-loss-free-speech-europe-human-rights-court-says-sites-liable-user-comments.shtml
21:19 🔗 xmc incredible
21:21 🔗 xmc there doesn't seem to be a place in the world that has freedom of expression and also socialism for humans
21:24 🔗 aaaaaaaaa ugh, I'd hate to see what effect that has on defamation law.
21:25 🔗 aaaaaaaaa also, wait for announcements of numerous sites shutting down their comment pages.
21:27 🔗 winr4r most sites in britain already moderate their comments sections very heavily
21:28 🔗 winr4r this isn't all that new
21:28 🔗 joepie91 xmc: Iceland.
21:28 🔗 joepie91 end of list
21:28 🔗 xmc oh hm.
21:28 🔗 xmc how absoulte is their freedom of expression?
21:29 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: it is *very* new
21:29 🔗 winr4r joepie91: you are wrong
21:29 🔗 joepie91 xmc: pretty strong, afaik
21:29 🔗 xmc hm
21:29 🔗 xmc ok
21:29 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: we go from 0 legal liability due to carrier protection to full legal liability DESPITE carrier protection
21:29 🔗 joepie91 how in the fuck is this "not all that new"
21:29 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: did you actually even read the article
21:29 🔗 joepie91 because moderation didn't matter here
21:29 🔗 joepie91 :|
21:30 🔗 winr4r joepie91: chill
21:30 🔗 joepie91 no
21:30 🔗 joepie91 I will not fucking chill
21:30 🔗 joepie91 this is a massive fucking deal
21:31 🔗 joepie91 with potentially disastrous consequences
21:31 🔗 joepie91 on many different fronts
21:31 🔗 joepie91 I really don't care for the "well it was all fucked anyway" points right now
21:31 🔗 winr4r joepie91: changes little for site owners in the UK
21:31 🔗 * joepie91 facepalms
21:31 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: oh yes, because the UK is now all of Europe
21:32 🔗 winr4r joepie91: yes, in the rest of europe, it sucks to be them
21:32 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: okay, so stop claiming "this isn't all that new"
21:33 🔗 winr4r joepie91: read it in the context of the above sentence
21:33 🔗 winr4r as i'm not particularly bothered what happens in the rest of europe insofar as it doesn't affect me
21:33 🔗 joepie91 great. go gloat elsewhere
21:33 🔗 joepie91 seriously, my tolerance for this kind of crap is really low right now
21:34 🔗 winr4r joepie91: you also get angry at the wrong people
21:34 🔗 joepie91 I get angry at people saying stupid shit
21:34 🔗 joepie91 court says stupid shit
21:34 🔗 joepie91 you said stupid shit
21:34 🔗 joepie91 both receive angry
21:35 🔗 xmc please, be less frantic
21:38 🔗 winr4r joepie91: i like you, even when you're angry, and i even agree with what you say when you're not being insulting
21:39 🔗 xmc ditto
21:39 🔗 winr4r it's a stupid decision, made by people who don't understand the things on which they are ruling
21:45 🔗 winr4r joepie91: calmer yet? :)
21:49 🔗 winr4r the ECHR will make stupid rulings, in five years they'll be less relevant, in ten years the EU as a binding body might not exist
21:50 🔗 winr4r "the sky is falling!" narratives generally fall apart after about ten years of geopolitics
21:51 🔗 winr4r long on greek ISPs anyway \o/
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