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02:19 🔗 yipdw Sanqui: really Chrome is probably lighter than PhantomJS
02:19 🔗 yipdw using wpull for its logging/WARC/control/crawl + Chrome as fetcher isn't that outlandish
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09:08 🔗 godane so i'm uploading uvolume mp3s from KBS 2FM Coolfm
09:08 🔗 godane first one up: https://archive.org/details/kbsradio-2fm-coolfm-uvolume-2011-11-07
09:08 🔗 godane its in korean
09:08 🔗 godane but its very popular over there
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10:56 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm starting to upload more manuals
10:56 🔗 godane from Panasonic
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17:36 🔗 username1 i am at s02e07 of orange is the new black and i fucking hate season 2
17:36 🔗 username1 is it worth continueing or does it just continue as it goes
17:36 🔗 username1 s01 was so good
17:37 🔗 username1 and now it is like 10 different story lines with tiny snippets, some cheap evil black mamba girl and chapman being a cunt
17:37 🔗 yipdw google maps tiles from every year would be interesting
17:37 🔗 yipdw I wonder, though, how much of it was procedurally generated
17:37 🔗 yipdw hell maybe we can just ask Google
17:38 🔗 username1 procedurally?
17:38 🔗 yipdw yeah, take the source data and represent a road using this set of brushes
17:38 🔗 xmc my guess is ~all
17:38 🔗 username1 dont really understand that :)
17:38 🔗 yipdw it's not really relevant because it all turns into bitmaps eventually
17:38 🔗 yipdw but if it was procedural it means your archive of tiles is Google's source archive of Maps
17:39 🔗 yipdw if you want an older tile, revert to an older version and run it
17:39 🔗 yipdw (easier said than done)
17:39 🔗 xmc that's what i would guess
17:40 🔗 yipdw username1: so we'd have source map data that e.g. designates a road, and there's a program in Maps that takes that data and draws it out, using some fill, stroke, font settings
17:40 🔗 username1 in osm you simply assign styles for geometries based on their attributes (and maybe parent geometries)
17:40 🔗 username1 ah
17:40 🔗 yipdw yeah, that's what i mean
17:40 🔗 username1 source would be vector data
17:40 🔗 yipdw yeah
17:40 🔗 username1 the tiles are raster images
17:40 🔗 yipdw right
17:40 🔗 username1 and in some styles they blend in other raster sources like satellite stuff
17:41 🔗 username1 but the main google streets(?) style is probably entirely from vector data (which partly might be sourced/converted from rasters, eg for land cover)
17:41 🔗 username1 fuck xchat, why do i always lose my nick
17:41 🔗 username1 is now known as schbirid
17:41 🔗 schbirid with OSM we have all the old data dumps as well as the source histories
17:41 🔗 yipdw probably yeah, but I think we could get the old tiles by just going into old versions of maps
17:42 🔗 schbirid so if one is interested in recreating OSM of 2005, it is possible with some work
17:42 🔗 schbirid for archiving proprietary services we only have access to the raster images
17:42 🔗 schbirid otherwise it would be easy :(
17:42 🔗 yipdw yeah
17:42 🔗 xmc i'm going to chime in and say that i generally lean strongly against archiving commercial services
17:43 🔗 xmc in my mind the purpose of archiveteam is to save shit that users make, not that companies buy
17:43 🔗 yipdw ^
17:43 🔗 schbirid totally with you there
17:43 🔗 yipdw I know we also need to do a better job on that
17:43 🔗 schbirid but humans use their services
17:44 🔗 schbirid see AOL cd archiving
17:44 🔗 schbirid it's artifacts of history and memories
17:44 🔗 xmc yeah i consider aol cd archiving to be offtopic for archiveteam
17:44 🔗 xmc it's a good SketchCow project though
17:48 🔗 bzc6p schbirid: strange, I use xchat too and it doesn't lose username, just appends some underscores.
17:48 🔗 * bzc6p was wondering who the hell was username1
17:48 🔗 schbirid yeah, you can specify a second nickname
17:48 🔗 bzc6p schbirid: You didn't?
17:48 🔗 schbirid and i dont have "username1" defined anywhere afaik
17:49 🔗 schbirid i have schibirid2 or something
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17:49 🔗 yipdw get a bouncer yo
17:49 🔗 schbirid nah
18:12 🔗 schbirid great, the IA music player eats a whole cpu core
18:17 🔗 schbirid also, editing an item repopulates the tracks' tags every damn time
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19:56 🔗 bzc6p A totally unexpected question:
19:57 🔗 bzc6p Start: as far as I know, IRC is not case sensitive. So whenever we use the word "start" in any context, you get pinged?
19:57 🔗 Start yep
19:57 🔗 bzc6p It can be useful.
19:58 🔗 bzc6p -----------------
19:59 🔗 bzc6p I've applied some suggestions from two days ago on the wiki projects pages restucturing proposal
19:59 🔗 bzc6p http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Bzc6p/Restructuring_projects_pages#Update_3
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20:21 🔗 schbirid whoa still alive http://aluigi.altervista.org/
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20:34 🔗 schbirid anyone manage to download http://www.hitbox.tv/video/554164/description in a nice way?
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20:44 🔗 bzc6p schbirid: is youtube-dl a nice way?
20:44 🔗 bzc6p Theoretically it supports that, here it doesn't really work
20:45 🔗 bzc6p hangs on first "segment"
20:45 🔗 schbirid yeah, come back when it works :P
20:46 🔗 bzc6p schbirid: came back, it works
20:46 🔗 schbirid woot
20:46 🔗 bzc6p the vid is just f*king big
20:46 🔗 schbirid thanks, will update to git
20:46 🔗 bzc6p first of 57 segments is apparently 7 M
20:47 🔗 schbirid nice, thanks it works
20:47 🔗 schbirid somehow i havent updated youtube-dl in ages...
20:50 🔗 bzc6p Well, I was like "maybe youtube-dl supports it, it supports so many sites..." and it does! Pretty long list: https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
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20:59 🔗 schbirid yeah it rocks
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21:57 🔗 Rotab speaking of hitbox... theyre going to support 4K 60fps livstreams
21:57 🔗 Rotab thats.... insane
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