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john1 |
I'd like to be able to scrape youtube links off of a web page. Does a script for this already exist, that you know of? |
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For large amounts of storage, do you recommend cheaper drives with more duplication and maintenance, or more reliable ones? |
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schbirid2 |
http://www.the-master-list.com/ |
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john1 |
schbirid2: Is that from the nineties? Has it been updated recently? |
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schbirid2 |
updated 2014 :D |
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john1 |
Nice. |
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john1 |
You want it archived? |
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schbirid2 |
dont care, just thought it was funny |
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john1 |
By the way, you know there's a modern geocities clone? |
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john1 |
https://neocities.org/browse |
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xmc |
yeah |
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john1 |
I'm not sure the old geocities had bandwidth limits though. :/ |
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xmc |
oh it did |
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john1 |
All right. |
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john1 |
Is the Archive Team prepared to face legal challenges? Have they done so before? |
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schbirid2 |
that can mean many things, no one could answer that |
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john1 |
On issues of intellectual property, to be more specific. |
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xmc |
what is your threat model |
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john1 |
xmc: Basically, copyright trolls and assholes. For example, one might claim that their website is their intellectual property, and that you have no right to redistribute it. Though, I do believe this argument is no longer up for judicial debate. |
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xmc |
it's never come up and i doubt it wil |
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I'm also wondering how DMCA requests will be handled. |
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schbirid2 |
archive.org's job, not ours |
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we dont care about copyright etc |
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john1 |
All right. |
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schbirid2 |
be aware that if you upload to IA, your mail address is available for the world to see though |
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john1 |
An email address doesn't necessarily identify a person though. |
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Of course, not using an email address you read may also deprive you of chances to defend yourself. |
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But I really don't care that much. |
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I'm a copyright antagonist myself, but I ask these questions because I don't want to give pirated data to organizations that avoid it. |
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schbirid2 |
look at recent uploads at IA 8) |
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Yeah, I know. |
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john1 |
The best part is, when they receive a request, they don't even delete it. They just store it indefinitely, which I believe they are allowed to do due to their legal library status. |
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Though, I am curious how that stuff doesn't get lost, but that's a question for them I suppose. |
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arkiver |
What do you want to upload? |
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john1 |
Nothing right now. Just thinking ahead of myself. |
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john1 |
Though, I wouldn't upload anything there specifically for piracy. |
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ersi |
Hehehe, Legal challenges. |
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john1 |
Anyone else facing a similar problem? https://pastee.org/5uxhq |
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Sanqui |
john1: looks like wpull is python2, so use pip2 :P |
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Sanqui |
hm, never mind |
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Sanqui |
weird exception then lol |
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(wpull is python 3, ignore what I had said) |
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godane |
can anyone download this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxrjMy713etLcmhrWU1MVGNOT3M/view?pli=1 |
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godane |
its a 1994 film called Otaku and looks like its hard to find |
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godane |
download button doesn't work for me |
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schbirid2 |
"Not Found |
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Error 404" for me |
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arkiver |
for me too |
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godane |
i figured it out |
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arkiver |
yeah, I guess just downloading the converted video |
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arkiver |
or did you find a working link to the wmv? |
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godane |
its just the converted webm |
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godane |
i got the link from here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/3dlcrt/otaku_1994_this_classic_documentary_focuses_on_a/ |
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godane: are you into torrents? it is available at a tracker i am member of |
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schbirid2 |
i mean generally, if you would use it well, i could invite you |
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godane |
ok |
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godane |
which torrent tracker? |
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schbirid2 |
pm me your mail address if you want |
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schbirid2 |
cinemageddon |
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godane |
YES |
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schbirid2 |
:D |
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garyrh |
heh https://github.com/avinassh/rockstar |
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ivan` |
john1: old Python 3, perhaps? |
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godane |
so i'm looing at cinemageddon forums |
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godane |
its alot easier to grab then underground-gamer |
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godane |
thats cause all pages of a topic is on the index pages |
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schbirid2 |
oi, dont get me banned |
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schbirid2 |
that was not the intention |
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not to mention that those forums are private |
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godane |
ok |
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szalwia |
what's the status of imageshack? |
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szalwia |
it seems they deleted a lot of old images and relaunched as a mobile app? |
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szalwia |
did we ever grab anything from them? |
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zhongfu |
godane: i managed to get only the reencoded mp4 for streaming, 200MB |
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zhongfu |
I did find a torrent for that though, I'll go see if it's similar |
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godane |
i got the torrent |
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zhongfu |
ah alright |
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Sanqui: No, the setup.py told me to use python3. |
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ivan`: Python 3.4 is still the current version, isn't it? |
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godane |
i'm starting to uploaded these: https://archive.org/details/koreanet-2_cheongju_tvpro_chung-20030107 |
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godane |
the tvpro part will be dropped from 2009 on |
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john1: it is, I guess it's not that |
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joepie91 |
well, I guess sourceforge may be really dead... |
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aaaaaaaaa |
They posted https://twitter.com/sourceforge/status/622237830186577920 a while ago |
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aaaaaaaaa |
.title https://twitter.com/sourceforge/status/622237830186577920 |
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botpie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: sourceforge on Twitter: "#SourceForge directory, download and project summary pages are back online; dev services (SCM, uploads, ML's, project web) pending restoral" |
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: yes, I know |
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aaaaaaaaa: tbh, it feels like they're on borrowed time right now |
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what is the status of SF archival>? |
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phiren |
paused |
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joepie91 |
phiren: any particular reason? |
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aaaaaaaaa |
others might not. But I like how everything they list as back is available from the mirrors. |
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phiren |
the archival efforts started and a sourceforge admin showed up a few hours later and said "woah, you aren't following robot.txt" |
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aaaaaaaaa |
They noticed the effort, panicked, stopped the party and started banning the user agent and rsync boxes |
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aaaaaaaaa |
so SketchCow was trying to negotiate something with them. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
arkiver probably has the best picture |
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phiren |
there was a great post on reddit |
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phiren |
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3do9k0/sourceforge_is_down_due_to_storage_problems_no_eta/ct77o49 |
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arkiver |
I'll write a mail to them tomorrow |
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arkiver |
will let you all check it first |
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arkiver |
SketchCow 6 |
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arkiver |
^* |
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phiren |
so the binaries aren't lost, I guess that's something |
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arkiver |
I think they'll all be restored |
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aaaaaaaaa |
may have to overnight a box, and then figure out how the hell to reverse engineer their kludge. |
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joepie91 |
I'd like an update on the SF negotiations |
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joepie91 |
because this storage issue is a giant red flag to me |
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joepie91 |
and I feel like this is going to be the next geocities, but without advance notice |
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arkiver |
joepie91: there's not much of an update yet |
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joepie91 |
it all smells of neglect |
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23:13
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arkiver |
they're being cooperative |
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23:13
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joepie91 |
arkiver: but the project has paused |
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23:13
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arkiver |
but they don't fully understand what we exactly want, so we need to explain that better |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: okay, what is unclear about their understanding? |
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joepie91 |
in* |
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23:14
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arkiver |
They asked us if we want to be a mirror. |
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arkiver |
And they want to talk with us "to ensure you can obtain a copy of Open Source content we host in a manner that uses a fair share of our delivery capacity and without impact to our other community members" |
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23:16
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arkiver |
We do not want mirrors, we want a full web grab |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: right. yeah |
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arkiver |
Now we need to explain that well in a mail |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: it would perhaps be useful to point them at the wayback machine as an example of what you want |
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arkiver |
yeah |
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joepie91 |
or say 'static dump' or whatever |
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phiren |
there is no point trying to negotiate right now, they will be running around with their hair on fire |
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arkiver |
Though, I think it'll be hard for them to really understand why we want a webgrab and not just all files as a mirror |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: let me know if you need my help explaining that |
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joepie91 puts on "talking to non-knowledgeable people" hat |
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aaaaaaaaa |
heh, depending on what you want, it s the best time |
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phiren |
though, we don't just want a webgrab |
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phiren |
we want all the SCM data as well |
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aaaaaaaaa |
also, don't forgt the code |
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arkiver |
joepie91: I might need that, are you available tomorrow? |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: it's slightly disturbing to me that they don't understand the requirements, though - makes me feel you're not talking to a technical person |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: depends on the time |
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23:19
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arkiver |
joepie91: ok, I'll just ping you |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: if you give me an approx time (in NL timezone), I can try to schedule it in with sleep and such |
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arkiver |
Mail won't be send before you have read it |
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joepie91 |
:p |
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arkiver |
I'm sorry, I can't give some exact time |
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23:20
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joepie91 |
arkiver: just ballpark. my normal sleep pattern is to go to sleep around 07:00 NL time, and wake up 7:30 - 8:00 hours later |
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joepie91 |
at this point |
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joepie91 |
but I can adjust that if need be |
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23:21
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joepie91 |
so I'd be back around 16:00 or so |
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arkiver |
that's ok |
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joepie91 |
alright |
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aaaaaaaaa |
they are not technical, the contact person is in pr |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: just highlight me here in channel then, I'll probably miss a PM if I'm not actively looking for it (because my client doesn't reliably show new PM tabs to me) |
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joepie91 |
I'll make sure this tab is in view :P |
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arkiver |
OK, I'll do that |
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arkiver |
I did just sent a PM, you got it? |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: yeah, but the tab is somewhere three kilometers off screen :P |
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arkiver |
haha |
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