[00:00] I do like how their job requirements include "a sense of humor" [00:14] i'm grabbing medium.com through a proxy now [00:15] i hope this will webarchive right [00:21] *** wyatt8740 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [00:21] godane: Why throught a proxy? Is it blocked by something? [00:22] aaaaaaaaa: Damn… I'm too dump for those jobs. [00:22] *** wyatt8740 has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:23] anomie: its blocked or a bad connection for me [00:24] i have been having this problem for over a month [00:35] I still think they must have IP banned you and maybe the user agent too. [00:36] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:41] *** superkuh has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:45] *** yakfish has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [00:45] *** yakfish has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:48] So, what are some pro-active archivist organizations other than archive-team? [01:08] no [01:08] i'm just the one man archiveteam [01:08] :P [01:11] *** yakfish has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:12] godane: Yes, but I'm wondering what other organizations archive stuff for the common good. [01:13] these guys: http://www2.archivists.org/ [01:15] "463 digital audio files (11.6 GB)" [01:15] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [01:17] godane: My first impression is that it seems to be more about job seeking, not that it's a bad thing. [01:17] anomie: IA, Library of Congress, British Library, others [01:17] All right. [01:17] That reminds me, does the LoC archive websites too? [01:18] I'm not sure but I think it's yes [01:18] others might know better [01:19] anyway I think what really makes Archive Team so visible is that we have a badass promoter [01:19] Okay, I guess the SAA does do some nice things. http://www2.archivists.org/news/2015/saa-calls-on-facebook-to-enable-content-downloading-for-pages [01:21] *** toad2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:23] *** toad1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:28] Anyone with a subscription to the American Archivist willing to do me favor? [01:28] Non open-access journals really annoy me. -_- [01:30] http://sci-hub.club/ [01:31] DFJustin: Isn't that just another libgen mirror? [01:31] no, it's a website that fills libgen with scientific articles [01:31] Oh, nice. [01:32] Regardless, they still don't have what I want. [01:34] (it's a proxy for accessing journal articles through subscribing institutions) [01:35] Oh… [01:35] That's nice. [01:35] I bet it's turned into a cat and mouse game though. [01:37] It doesn't work for the American Archivist though. [01:44] anomie, doi? [01:46] vitzli: 10.17723/0360-9081.78.1.84 [01:47] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:52] no luck for me either, I thought they did ip lock [02:13] *** yakfish has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:26] Darn. [02:28] I've never understood why organizations with membership dues such as the American Archivist, ACM, etc. feel the need to paywall their contributions to science. [02:35] *** dan- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 483 seconds) [02:36] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:39] *** dan- has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:39] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:10] Delightful Infocom advertisment from 1984: https://i.imgur.com/RQxDyoP.jpg [03:30] *** robink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 492 seconds) [03:56] *** robink has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:06] *** robink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 492 seconds) [04:11] https://twitter.com/PObean/status/639622298581004288 <- this makes me think it would be nice to code up a easy-to-use WARC-to-zip (with link-conversion) utility (and even better if that got added to IA's automatic list of derivers) [04:12] It'd probably be good to add that to one of the Dev-tasks-available-for-volunteers lists... [04:12] if it isn't already on there [04:17] I think that'd also be nice. [04:18] If there is a warc library for common lisp, I might try it. [04:20] anomie: it should be pretty fast to /write/ a warc library for common lisp -- the warc format is basically just a pile of key value pairs intersperced with big data blobs [04:21] Check http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=WARC for info and links [04:22] I believe I got my copy of the draft from here http://bibnum.bnf.fr/WARC/ [04:23] JesseW: I guess that's true. I might try it, but I'll have to get more familiar with the language. [04:23] Where's the spec? [04:25] anomie: which language, common lisp? Is there a language you are more familiar with? There are existing libraries in python, java and a few others, I think. [04:25] anomie: see aaaaaaaaa's link. :-) [04:26] one trap is that a warc.gz file is usually multiple gz files concatenated together. [04:28] *** robink has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:29] JesseW: My problem is that I'm not really that familiar with any language. I keep changing my mind! [04:29] I think I'll stick with CL though. [04:30] CL is certainly pretty. [04:31] I assume you've seen dwheeler's project for a prettier syntax? http://readable.sourceforge.net/ [04:31] That being said, not everything is the most idiomatic, but it's not very hard to abstract stuff away if you need to. [04:32] I like my parentheses though. [04:33] *** aschmitz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [04:33] isn't that prefix? I can't seem to get my brain to bend that way [04:34] The readable project won't take away your parentheses -- just let you use alternatives when they are helpful. [04:35] ... and avoid prefix notation when it is unnecessarily brain-bending [04:35] (note, I haven't written much CL, or used the readable project's stuff -- this is just from reading about it) [04:38] I'm new to programming (in things other than basic), but I prefer python. Seems easy to get it to do what I want and there seems to be just about everything in the library, let alone PyPI. [04:39] python is certainly lovely (although it isn't as straightforward as it used to be, and the 2/3 transition was^C^C^Cis badly handled) [04:40] aaaaaaaaa: what version of basic have you used? I started on QBasic, which I really need to see if it is in the Software Collection yet. [04:40] *** robink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 492 seconds) [04:41] YES, IT IS! https://archive.org/details/msdos_qbasic_megapack [04:41] I don't even remember what I started with, but it wasn't qbasic, I believe that was labels, not line numbers [04:42] >qbasic [04:42] >not superior freebasic [04:42] * anomie looks at selected channel [04:42] Oops. [04:42] Sorry, I thought I was on #/tech/ [04:44] maybe it was asic? I can't remember. The closest I've been for awhile was VBS and VBA [04:44] I still love QBasic over the later Basic's I used. [04:45] now I want to go see if I can dig up the code I wrote back then [04:45] Is qbasic still maintained? [04:46] *** aaaaaaaaa has quit IRC (Leaving) [04:47] *** robink has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:50] *** Asparagir has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:50] anomie: "maintained"? It's a binary. There's nothing to maintain. :-) [04:51] I presume there exist FOSS implementations of Basic, some of which are likely still actively maintained... [04:52] JesseW: Of course there are. http://www.freebasic.net/ [04:53] That being said, basic is much too verbose for my taste. [04:55] anomie: yeah, it is that. But it was my first language, so I'm just all the nostalgic. [04:55] Yup. 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