#archiveteam-bs 2015-10-24,Sat

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00:03 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: I see you're doing a presentation the 1st of november
00:04 🔗 arkiver https://www.eventbrite.nl/e/keynote-jason-scott-tickets-19097889301
00:05 🔗 arkiver joepie91: midas: are you going to IMPAKT 2015?
00:05 🔗 joepie91 I know nothing of it
00:06 🔗 arkiver http://impakt.nl/festival/program/
00:10 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: no money ;p
00:37 🔗 pokeball9 Quick question is there any other "uquinie"(can't spell worth for crap) iso's like warrior?
00:38 🔗 aaaaaaaaa unique?
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00:54 🔗 pokeball9 Yea,was typing that fast
00:58 🔗 arkiver joepie91: hmm ok :/
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01:20 🔗 SketchCow I AM doing a presentation
01:20 🔗 SketchCow Oct. 31 and Nov 1 actually
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01:33 🔗 SketchCow And I'm expensive!
01:33 🔗 SketchCow Cough up, dutch
01:39 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: $0.20 and a ball of pocket lint?
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02:26 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I'm drawing a blank: what is the website that tracks prices for products on amazon?
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03:18 🔗 aaaaaaaaa nevermind, I got it
03:34 🔗 pokeball9 How long does it take for shame board to update?
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04:38 🔗 godane so year 2000 episodes of MBC Newsdesk is all uploaded now
05:13 🔗 MrRadar !ig 3nuqwscqflk5l0608wovj249o ^https?://www\.philipsandifer\.com/captcha/image/
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10:23 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: what presentation will you be doing october 31st? I only see your Keynote presentation on november 1st
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11:15 🔗 midas arkiver: will be there november 1st
11:50 🔗 HCross If pokeball9 from last night comes in and I am afk, can someone tell him that I am uploading all of the videos to the IA?
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12:18 🔗 Fletcher [19:50] HCross : If pokeball9 from last night comes in and I am afk, can someone tell him that I am uploading all of the videos to the IA?
12:18 🔗 pokeball9 ahh
12:18 🔗 HCross ah I am here xD
12:18 🔗 pokeball9 i just pm him about that
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12:32 🔗 pokeball9 >mfw
12:32 🔗 pokeball9 >https://archive.org/details/ArchiveIt-Collection-5262 shows up when i look up about javascript on archive.org
12:32 🔗 pokeball9 >Michigan Same-Sex Marriage
13:19 🔗 pokeball9 did anyone awnser my question about if there was any unique ISO/OS
13:20 🔗 pokeball9 's like warrior
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13:52 🔗 HCross If I upload a zip file to the IA, will it decompress it?
14:07 🔗 pokeball9 check on https://archive.org/help/derivatives.php HCross
14:07 🔗 HCross it doesnt say. I think ive also broken the upload
14:08 🔗 pokeball9 rip
14:08 🔗 HCross Its rate limiting me or something
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14:14 🔗 arkiver HCross: what is the link to your item?
14:15 🔗 arkiver midas: nice! I think I can go, not totally sure yet
14:15 🔗 HCross https://archive.org/details/SlenderverseARGs
14:15 🔗 HCross and I cant upload any more as it errors
14:21 🔗 arkiver IA never unpacks zip files
14:22 🔗 HCross ah ok. I had issues uploading, can that please be reset so I can try again?
14:22 🔗 arkiver I see it's split up
14:22 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/download/SlenderverseARGs/__ia_spool/
14:22 🔗 arkiver I can't reset any items
14:23 🔗 arkiver when all tasks are finished you can remove files from the item and reupload the files to the item
14:23 🔗 HCross ah. The upload shat itself and I need to do it again
14:23 🔗 arkiver I don't know, maybe
14:24 🔗 arkiver I'm not sure who IA handles the bin files that your file is split into
14:24 🔗 arkiver but IA doesn't unpack zips, it just makes them browsable
14:24 🔗 HCross ah ok. Its because this upload has over 8,000 files and was being rate limited
14:25 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/history/SlenderverseARGs
14:25 🔗 arkiver yep, a lot of green lines
14:25 🔗 HCross so I need to wait and then come back later?
14:26 🔗 arkiver you can try to edit the files in your item, but it'll probably tell you to wait untill all tasks are done.
14:26 🔗 arkiver how big is the whole item?
14:27 🔗 HCross About 90GB
14:27 🔗 arkiver ok
14:29 🔗 HCross http://harrycross.me/9ca.png
14:29 🔗 Smiley what client you using?
14:30 🔗 HCross Cyberduck and CloudBerry explorer
14:30 🔗 HCross because CyberDuck crashes when I feed the files into it
14:31 🔗 Smiley cmdline is best line
14:31 🔗 HCross what about from a Windows host
14:32 🔗 Smiley not sure tbh :/
14:35 🔗 HCross not sure what to do about this issue
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15:47 🔗 pokeball9 Oh,I just remembered something,you guys remember the curiosity what's in side the cube game/world wide hunt that was on iOS and android?well they don't have thoses on the App Store any more,so can we get people that still have it to upload the apk and what ever format iOS apps are in to the ia
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16:16 🔗 Smiley yeah that thing was a joke
16:16 🔗 Smiley the prize was to star in a game
16:16 🔗 Smiley and they didn't even deliver on that
16:21 🔗 joepie91 "The Pirate Party in Iceland continues to gain support, causing a revolution in the local political arena. According to the latest poll the party now has over a third of all votes in the country, beating the current Government coalition."
16:21 🔗 arkiver would be great
16:22 🔗 arkiver I hope the pirate party here will get more support, though I'm not very optimistic
16:22 🔗 joepie91 probably need to get rid of Wilders first
16:22 🔗 Smiley Iceland is amazing tho
16:22 🔗 joepie91 ie. mister loudmouth
16:22 🔗 Smiley bonkers country.
16:22 🔗 arkiver joepie91: yeah
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16:27 🔗 joepie91 do we have any copies of popcorntime.io anywhere?
16:27 🔗 joepie91 repo-wise
16:27 🔗 joepie91 given that it went boom.
16:31 🔗 arkiver we did get the website a few times
16:31 🔗 arkiver not sure about the repo
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16:33 🔗 chazchaz Was it actually different from any of the other streaming sites that come and go?
16:34 🔗 MrRadar It was different in that it pulled the streams directly from torrents rather than traditional web servers
16:34 🔗 MrRadar Making it much harder to shut down
16:35 🔗 MrRadar I'm sure some clones will pop up shortly
16:39 🔗 chazchaz So they managed to write some sort of BT client in javascript?
16:41 🔗 MrRadar It an actual app rather than a web app
16:43 🔗 zhongfu there was another similar site called browserpopcorn (which was also taken down)
16:43 🔗 zhongfu although it uses the same sources as popcorntime it streamed them from "six dedicated servers"
16:44 🔗 joepie91 MrRadar: chazchaz: it's half web-app half native-app
16:44 🔗 joepie91 uses node-webkit
16:44 🔗 joepie91 basically a Netflix-like application
16:44 🔗 joepie91 for torrents
16:44 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: also, JS bittorrent clients have been around for a while :)
16:45 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: eg. https://www.npmjs.com/package/peerflix which is also the base that popcorn time is built upon
16:45 🔗 joepie91 lets you stream a torrent directly to VLC (or any other network-stream-capable media player), seeking and all
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17:11 🔗 chazchaz neat. I wasn't aware of that.
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19:29 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: lots of interesting things like this in Node.js-land :)
19:29 🔗 joepie91 experimental stuffs
19:29 🔗 joepie91 p2p-y stuff
19:29 🔗 joepie91 etc
19:36 🔗 Microguru when it comes to kinda sorta legal stuff/ anything that the MPAA doesn't like, what should be our policy regarding preemptively archiving them? do we wait for sighs of distress or should we always consider them ticking time bombs?
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20:55 🔗 bzc6p botpie91: tell HCross that there is a bot called botpie91 who is able to pass messages to people currently away
20:55 🔗 botpie91 bzc6p: I'll pass that on when HCross is around.
20:56 🔗 HCross I am here
20:56 🔗 botpie91 HCross: 20:55Z <bzc6p> tell HCross that there is a bot called botpie91 who is able to pass messages to people currently away
20:56 🔗 bzc6p :)
20:56 🔗 HCross How do I use it then
20:56 🔗 bzc6p just a demostration
20:56 🔗 HCross ah, I get it now
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22:29 🔗 pokeball9 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSBwPywXAAAXToP.png
22:29 🔗 pokeball9 >save videos offline with youtube red
22:30 🔗 pokeball9 >paying to rip videos off youtube
22:31 🔗 Microguru yutube-dl can do that for free
22:31 🔗 pokeball9 my point
22:32 🔗 pokeball9 unless they break the known way to download videos and tighten up the way they give us videos via the browsers
22:32 🔗 Microguru youtube-dl --title --continue --retries 4 --write-info-json --write-description --write-thumbnail --write-annotations --all-subs --ignore-errors -f bestvideo+bestaudio URL is the proper way to create archival copies of youtube videos
22:33 🔗 HCross ye
22:35 🔗 Microguru i've been hoarding every youtube video i've ever watched for fear that contentID will come for them. they're not nessarly archivial quality. if the fecies heads fanward, are raw video files without comments,annotations,ect still useful?
22:36 🔗 pokeball9 im say,they could have broken the way to rip youtube videos and really give a fuck about "breaking there TOS"
22:38 🔗 HCross here is an example I am going to run now
22:38 🔗 HCross youtube-dl.exe --write-info-json --write-description --write-thumbnail --write-annotations --all-subs --ignore-errors -o "E:\YouTube DL\LTTWaterCooling\%(title)s.%(ext)s" "https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8mG-RkN2uTyVqLN5OSZxn3Z4t1_xFunu"
22:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa blocking youtube-dl is an arms race they will lose. The popularity of youtube is enough to ensure that.
22:42 🔗 pokeball9 what does "water cooling" mean?
22:43 🔗 aaaaaaaaa context? Without one, I'm guessing chatting about stuff around the water cooler
22:43 🔗 HCross it means cooling a computer by using water
22:43 🔗 Microguru "they could have broken the way to rip youtube videos" innocent changes to how youtube works have broken youtube-dl before. you simpally update it then it breaks. we could always jury-rig up some type of analog hole to get around it if need be. I don't think that a DRM system would be implementable, given how many platforms youtube supports
22:44 🔗 Microguru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cooling#Computer_usage
22:44 🔗 HCross watch the series I am dling
22:44 🔗 aaaaaaaaa guess you can tell I'm working on the weekend
22:44 🔗 pokeball9 >A cozy water cooler for the development and rescue of pomf.se clones. Share methods, code patches, tips and tricks, and archive dumps here.
22:45 🔗 aaaaaaaaa yeah, it is an informal place to discuss things
22:45 🔗 pokeball9 whats the origin of that being used that way?
22:46 🔗 Microguru i've had bad luck with youtube-dl ing playlists. I just download videos one by one
22:46 🔗 aaaaaaaaa named after these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bebedoro.JPG
22:46 🔗 aaaaaaaaa the only way to get drinkable water at the office back in the day
22:46 🔗 pokeball9 ....
22:46 🔗 pokeball9 are you retarded?
22:46 🔗 Microguru >pomf.se clones I really liked pomf.se. and I'm glad that the owner contacted us before shutting down.
22:47 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Did you just call me retarded?
22:47 🔗 pokeball9 ofc i know what a water cooler is,im asking why and when the term was usded for "informal place to discuss things"
22:47 🔗 pokeball9 Microguru: yea,sadly the clones are not as bright :(
22:48 🔗 Microguru I found a reddit post with a few pomf clones https://www.reddit.com/r/imguralternatives/comments/3eb11j/clones_of_pomfse_a_former_image_host/
22:49 🔗 pokeball9 ehh,we already have clones indexed
22:49 🔗 HCross IA upload being slow tonight?
22:49 🔗 pokeball9 just need to crawl/archive them
22:53 🔗 Microguru what's the difference between indexing and crawling?
22:53 🔗 HCross indexing is getting information/metadata and crawling is actually downloading
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22:57 🔗 HCross joepie91, whats going on with your HackForums idea?
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23:21 🔗 HCross pokeball9, this is what a proper youtube upload looks like https://archive.org/details/LTTWholeRoomWaterCooling
23:36 🔗 pokeball9 Is their a legit reason why they are/would private non-compliant channels videos?
23:36 🔗 HCross nope, just wankership
23:38 🔗 pokeball9 Also,I don't think it's necessary Reddit things older than ~3 months ago(some guy archived all of Reddit in json format)
23:38 🔗 pokeball9 To archive Reddit things on the archivebot*
23:40 🔗 marvinw pokeball9: archivebot WARCs make it into wayback machine, where URLs are mapped to archived content
23:40 🔗 marvinw random archive format from someone is not accessible there
23:40 🔗 pokeball9 Fair enough
23:41 🔗 arkiver If you just want something saved and accessible for other people WARCs are preferred
23:42 🔗 arkiver youtube video can also be saved into WARC files
23:42 🔗 arkiver when the wayback machine has support, the youtube videos can be played in the wayback machine from their original URLs

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