#archiveteam-bs 2015-12-21,Mon

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01:30 🔗 godane first 9 episodes of On The Move with Mark Worley are uploaded: https://archive.org/details/on-the-move-with-mark-worley-episode-1
01:30 🔗 godane i plan on uploading all 99 episodes of it
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05:17 🔗 godane good news about medium.com
05:17 🔗 godane they do have sitemaps
05:17 🔗 godane it change from static to sitemap https://medium.com/sitemap/posts/2015/posts-2015-10-12.xml
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06:08 🔗 FAMAS request to archive: http://antipsychiatry.org/
06:08 🔗 FAMAS recommended archive format: zpaq for maximum compression possible
06:12 🔗 asdf how big is the site you reckon?
06:13 🔗 FAMAS archiveteam stated policy is not ask, do, do archiving
06:13 🔗 asdf FAMAS, ^
06:16 🔗 asdf FAMAS, so you're saying the site is multiple terrabytes big?
06:16 🔗 FAMAS asdf: what tool you used to analyze that?
06:17 🔗 asdf I'm asking you
06:17 🔗 JesseW it appears to be a reasonably small collection of text essays -- shouldn't be too big
06:17 🔗 FAMAS archiveteam stated policy is not ask, do, do archiving
06:18 🔗 FAMAS check archiveteam policy.
06:18 🔗 asdf I'll just start the job, JesseW
06:18 🔗 FAMAS recommended archive format: zpaq for maximum compression possible
06:18 🔗 FAMAS winner of hutter prize as of present time
06:18 🔗 Fletcher ...righto
06:18 🔗 asdf FAMAS, it's now being archived!
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06:28 🔗 FAMAS asdf: what tool are you using for archiving?
06:29 🔗 phuzion FAMAS: #archivebot
06:31 🔗 asdf FAMAS, it will archive the site just fine.
06:31 🔗 asdf with the same care as all our other archives.
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06:33 🔗 FAMAS so archiveteam has a bot setup in a remote system which is invoked by commands from archiveteam staff located in remote locations?
06:33 🔗 asdf multiple bots.
06:34 🔗 FAMAS recommended reading: hutter prize toplist for idea regarding current winners of it which provide maximum compression ratios. filesizes matter regarding slow internet connection and capped internet connections
06:34 🔗 FAMAS 7zip is long overdue regarding decommissionment
06:34 🔗 asdf we're not going to use paq, let's that just be said.
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06:35 🔗 asdf nor 7z
06:36 🔗 FAMAS this user requests an enquiry on the reasons for that
06:40 🔗 phuzion FAMAS: You're requesting an inquiry as to why we won't use some esoteric compression algorithm?
06:41 🔗 FAMAS phuzion: this user, referring to self, has stumbled upon cases of archiveteam archives being utilized in situations where internet connection is either slow, or capped, or both
06:41 🔗 FAMAS across multiple nations
06:42 🔗 FAMAS considered the scenerio
06:45 🔗 phuzion I understand that you are or were under bandwidth constraints. We have to consider making our work available to as many people as possible, and using what is an extraordinarily rare compression system only acts as a hindrance to that. Yes, PAQ may result in smaller filesizes.
06:45 🔗 phuzion If we archive our data in an esoteric format that almost no one has the capability to extract, what good does it do?
06:46 🔗 phuzion Also, by the wiki article's own claim, PAQ is a memory hog, and slow.
06:48 🔗 FAMAS most recent implementation zpaq has removed the memory issue, testing on peazip/bulkzip can prove or disprove, this user is not very indepth-studied regarding data archival
06:50 🔗 asdf it's a moving target still
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07:15 🔗 FAMAS what is the frequency of updating existing archives?
07:30 🔗 asdf generally there are no set schedules for that.
07:31 🔗 FAMAS what are the bandwidths for the botservers?
07:51 🔗 Fletcher Assuming you're still talking about ArchiveBot it's difficult to say since pipelines are run by volunteers.
08:01 🔗 yipdw that is one of the more surreal conversations I've seen in here
08:01 🔗 FAMAS Fletcher: this user is referring to the servers where archivebot is run and is used to automatically archive sites
08:02 🔗 yipdw Fletcher gave you an accurate answer
08:15 🔗 FAMAS explain to this user regarding the referred pipelines
08:18 🔗 yipdw it's a fetch system, go to #archivebot to learn more
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08:39 🔗 FAMAS asdf: what is the progress status of that archiving drive?
08:39 🔗 asdf for your site you mean?
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10:02 🔗 espes___ so was the telethon actually recorded? :P
10:08 🔗 asdf most likely they did that locally
10:09 🔗 asdf wouldn't you think
10:11 🔗 Smiley and youtube archives all live broadcasts anyway
10:17 🔗 espes___ that's what i thought, but it's only got 4 hours of it
10:21 🔗 asdf they'll probably put up their local grabs somewhere, they're bound to be of the best quality of all other options as well
10:23 🔗 espes___ you assume anybody knew what they were doing :P
10:24 🔗 asdf I'm pretty sure they were that much on top of things
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10:26 🔗 FAMAS asdf: what is the link to status reports regarding site archivals?
10:26 🔗 asdf FAMAS, I just did it for you over in that other channel.
10:26 🔗 FAMAS asdf: this user is seeking the website page if any exists where all status is shown
10:27 🔗 FAMAS for all current ongoing archivals
10:27 🔗 asdf here my good user: http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/?showNicks=1
10:27 🔗 asdf FAMAS, ^
10:30 🔗 FAMAS is it acceptable to crawl and archive external links relative to site?
10:30 🔗 FAMAS this user is noticing sites that are not within the domain being archive
10:30 🔗 FAMAS archived
10:32 🔗 HCross Yes
10:44 🔗 FAMAS HCross: that would be counterproductive to site-archival as external materials would bloat the main archive
10:45 🔗 asdf they are made to be pretty much self-contained, FAMAS
10:45 🔗 asdf that's why it's done this way
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10:47 🔗 HCross if you are looking at my grab of the BBC sites, thats because the BBC partners with broadcasters in the respective countries
10:50 🔗 FAMAS asdf: notice the download of anti-psychiatry.org
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11:22 🔗 FAMAS what is required for this user to gain the ability to issue commands to archivebot?
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13:54 🔗 ivan` did someone beat FAMAS until he stopped saying "I" and "me"? I am genuinely puzzled
13:59 🔗 asdf maybe but noone here
14:00 🔗 asdf must have happened before we had the honor
14:01 🔗 asdf if so
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15:26 🔗 Smiley this gone bye bye over night
15:26 🔗 Smiley https://stratoscard.com/
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19:03 🔗 yipdw appearently there is some problem with suspend/resume on Intel systems with Intel graphics that causes triple-buffering detection in kwin to go haywire
19:03 🔗 yipdw I like how not even Intel can get an Intel system to properly wake up
19:04 🔗 yipdw or maybe Linux suspend/resume is still just broken I dunno
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