#archiveteam-bs 2016-01-12,Tue

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00:24 🔗 SketchCow I am nearly jealous of the way Bowie went out.
00:24 🔗 SketchCow It appears he got the diagnosis, and then decides to immediately do the best fucking album ever and finish it on his birthday
00:25 🔗 SketchCow In one pair of weeks, he gets worldwide attention for the single, the release of the album, and then he dies
00:25 🔗 SketchCow And it turns out all the videos and stuff he was doing were made to work with the knowledge the audience knows the performer is dying
00:25 🔗 SketchCow brava, bravo
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00:36 🔗 godane SketchCow: you may get some david bowie bootlegs
01:29 🔗 SketchCow Appreciated
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02:53 🔗 SketchCow Springer opened the door a little larger.
02:54 🔗 SketchCow They went from 124 english books to 1,135
02:54 🔗 SketchCow So, I'm going to go turn on my thing again
03:14 🔗 SketchCow Uploading 220 issues of Linux Format
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03:46 🔗 godane SketchCow: i also got a copy of linux format from the same torrent
03:46 🔗 godane for my private archive collection
03:47 🔗 SketchCow Nice.
03:51 🔗 godane i did question the +800mb file size
03:51 🔗 godane only cause even byte magazine are more like 200 to 300mb range
03:51 🔗 godane also there not full scans like byte magazine
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03:55 🔗 JesseW SketchCow: How are you getting a list of the Springer books?
04:04 🔗 SketchCow I search-blort
04:04 🔗 SketchCow http://link.springer.com/search?facet-content-type=%22Book%22&showAll=false&facet-language=%22En%22
04:04 🔗 SketchCow "All english Books with no preview-only"
04:05 🔗 SketchCow I'm about to tune the thing to pull them down, guarantee I've not already snagged, and onward
04:11 🔗 JesseW Ah, nice
04:13 🔗 JesseW Hm, there's another 1000 or so non-English ones.
04:15 🔗 dxrt archiveteam.org is giving me a bunch of php errors.. Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: group name must start with a non-digit at offset 8 in /home/archivet/public_html/includes/MagicWord.php on line 860
04:16 🔗 SketchCow I'll do english then do german
04:17 🔗 SketchCow The host updated PHP
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04:35 🔗 godane i have past 600k
04:35 🔗 godane items
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04:38 🔗 Fletcher congrats godane
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05:04 🔗 joepie91 [17:49] <trurl> Everything has VAT. But maybe, if you're a farmer and are using this ticket in an agricultural endeavour, VAT may be 13,56% Except on sundays. Or if you _ate_ the ticket, then it's 7% (but not if you're an animal or a public library)
05:04 🔗 joepie91 [17:49] <trurl> easy!
05:05 🔗 joepie91 [17:51] <MichiK> but beware! an edible ticket is only 7% if you take it home to cook it and it is not ready to eat... if you can eat it on the premises, it is still 19% because fuck you that's why
05:05 🔗 joepie91 (discussing 32c3 conference ticket VAT)
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06:06 🔗 JesseW Anyone else having a lot of trouble finding a working EFnet server?
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06:12 🔗 hub.se sets mode: +oooo Kenshin godane dashcloud arkiver
06:14 🔗 FAMAS it is requested towards the archiveteam staff to contemplate their antagonistic views and response towards this user and the possible consequential impediments towards the cause of archiving data
06:16 🔗 FAMAS reiteration: it is requested towards the archiveteam staff to contemplate their antagonistic views and response towards this user and the possible consequential impediments towards the cause of archiving data
06:18 🔗 DFJustin non sequitur: your facts are uncoordinated
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06:20 🔗 FAMAS dfjustin: an analysis of the archiveteam channel logs will reveal the nature of the behavior that this user is perpetrating within the claims
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06:26 🔗 SketchCow sets mode: +b *!*67c68b35@103.198.139.*
06:26 🔗 FAMAS was kicked by SketchCow (FAMAS)
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06:49 🔗 dan- wow, that's some splits
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07:07 🔗 SketchCow Mega-splits
07:08 🔗 SketchCow My springer book uploads are blasting it
07:11 🔗 godane Tech News 2Night is full uploaded now
07:14 🔗 JesseW Congrads to both of you.
07:16 🔗 JesseW I kinda wish had some suggestions of *where* to send people who are not welcome to participate in the #archiveteam channels... I mean, we can send them to /r/datahorders, and presumably the various 'chan archiving efforts have somewhere they organize and discuss their work -- but it'd be good to have a list.
07:17 🔗 * JesseW is a fan of multiple, mutually-distrustful archiving efforts, if necessary or preferred
07:17 🔗 JesseW hm, missed a word above: "wish *we* had"
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08:43 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to bed with three different robots uploading books from Springer at the rate (int total) of one every 9 seconds.
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14:34 🔗 SketchCow They finished. Some came out weird but 1,500 new books it is
14:34 🔗 SketchCow Now doing 1,500 german-language books from same
14:35 🔗 SketchCow Pile of SGI CD-ROMs coming to me for no effort here: https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?sort=-publicdate
14:36 🔗 midas sehr gut SketchCow
14:36 🔗 midas (my german is very rusty)
14:37 🔗 ersi sehr rostig
14:44 🔗 midas SN4T14: my icelandic is frozen, what in short does that pdf say?
14:49 🔗 Darkstar wow, SGI CDs. I also have a couple of them lying around here somewhere
14:50 🔗 midas upload them :(
14:50 🔗 midas :)
14:51 🔗 Darkstar hm. I probably should
14:51 🔗 Darkstar I already dumped and scanned them some time ago for another site
14:53 🔗 Darkstar they're in mdf+mds though, and the scans are TIFF instead of PNG. I don't suppose the archive.org robots will convert these automatically?
14:53 🔗 Darkstar (the TIFFs are probably fine but the MDF+MDS?)
14:53 🔗 Darkstar also can I just oload a ZIP file and it will be automatically uncompressed? or do I need to upload everything individually?
15:04 🔗 Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.)
15:05 🔗 Darkstar also I'm wondering if there is a better way than uploading through the web interface. If I want to upload multiple gigabytes of huge ISOs, I'd prefer some automated way.
15:05 🔗 midas s3
15:05 🔗 Darkstar like a tool where I can prepare the uploads beforehand, like 1 directory per archive.org item, with a metadata.txt file of a specific format, and the ability to resume interrupted transfers
15:06 🔗 midas http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt
15:06 🔗 midas (this is the old info tho, currently at work so not that much time)
15:06 🔗 Darkstar yeah, I know about the S3 interface but manually typing 200-character curl commands is not what I'm looking for ;-)
15:07 🔗 Darkstar someone, somewhere, must have automated this with a script or something. right?
15:07 🔗 midas well, write a frontend that does that for you :)
15:07 🔗 Darkstar yeah, thanks, I was asking if anyone knows if something like this already exists. but it seems the answer is "no" :(
15:08 🔗 midas it probably exists, just not known to me :)
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15:13 🔗 Darkstar I'm a little cautious with playing around with the S3 interface, I don't want to pollute archive.org with tons of "test"-items that I am unable to delete afterwards, for example :)
15:21 🔗 vitzli This is something I know an answer to, it's not the brightest idea, but I found that it's the best way to upload stuff to the IA:
15:24 🔗 vitzli 1. python tool to generate metadata from the item's name -> produces .yaml file (this: http://pastebin.com/7HemYyma) - does not do any checks, just assumes that everything is right
15:27 🔗 vitzli input for that program is a file with one item per row, boring, like this http://pastebin.com/a9e2Nu44
15:29 🔗 vitzli 2. Tool to upload the stub file, generally item image or text file or checksum file. Small enough to initiate the item with metadata and not to bother with s3cmd headers (I got feeling that automating s3cmd with cmd headers is quite unpleasant). Here is the script, it takes .yaml file from step 1 and uploads it to the IA: http://pastebin.com/vu2pF87H . It requires 'completed' directory to exist and moves the 'stub' file there.
15:31 🔗 vitzli all files are in the directory that has same name as the item
15:32 🔗 Darkstar hm so you're basically first creating an empty ia item (s3 bucket) without any metadata and then add each item with its metadata one by one to this bucket?
15:33 🔗 Darkstar no wait the metadata is per-item, not per-file
15:33 🔗 Darkstar or is it? hmm
15:33 🔗 Darkstar ok you have to have the correct metadata on the first PUT command and then each additional file you add doesn't need any metadata
15:33 🔗 vitzli 3. Upload the rest of the files to the IA, using s3cmd (because, apparently, ia has problems with 10+ GB files), by default s3cmd uses 15MB chuncks, use config to change it, I use 256MB. Script: http://pastebin.com/Jf2Lmnrx
15:35 🔗 vitzli yeah, the first item should have metadata, correct. Apparently, doing 'no-derive' for large uploads is a good thing, but I cannot make it work with s3cmd for some reason (probably because I'm retarded and passing wrong header to it)
15:35 🔗 Darkstar yeah I think I would have done it similar, although I would probably write a shell script and use curl :)
15:36 🔗 Darkstar still it'd be great if there were a "s3 test server" for IA that just discarded everything after a day or two
15:37 🔗 vitzli that's the reason for me to use internetarchive library - parse item name and fill .yaml with text editor when necessary
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15:38 🔗 vitzli There is 'Test collection', but I don't know if it works, all items in it should be deleted after a month. I've tried it but did something wrong and item stayed there
15:38 🔗 Darkstar yeah, still I wonder what happens when the upload aborts halfway through a huge file. can I just re-start the upload of the same file and overwrite the existing file on IA? can I resume? is there a way to see which files are already in the IA bucket (like an "ls") to see what to resume?
15:39 🔗 vitzli with s3cmd and multipart uploading it is possible to abort or resume the upload
15:40 🔗 vitzli I don't know if ia tool allows this
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15:42 🔗 Darkstar ah apparently I can just GET the bucket and I see which files are there and how big they are
15:42 🔗 Darkstar that will be useful
15:43 🔗 Darkstar maybe I will indeed write a small little client tool for this
15:44 🔗 Darkstar just to make sure: the foo_files.xml file, the foo_meta.* files and the torrent are all autogenerated, right?
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15:47 🔗 vitzli I have no idea how xml files are generated
15:48 🔗 Darkstar yeah but I don't have to generate and upload them myself, IA does that. right?
15:49 🔗 vitzli correct, but, iirc, except for the torrent file - there is an option/http header somewhere that disables the torrent generation
15:51 🔗 Darkstar yeah, that's fine, I'm just trying to come up with a detailed description on what an upload script needs to do to not fuck up everything on IA :)
15:57 🔗 SN4T14 midas, that PDF is from some accounting course, seemingly intended for the first class
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16:26 🔗 Darkstar Okay I came up with a high-level overview over what a simple upload script should do: http://pastebin.com/ULVxyMZ5 ... Ideas/comments anyone? :)
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17:54 🔗 SketchCow The Springer english books are added!
17:54 🔗 SketchCow Now doing a slight metadata fix
17:54 🔗 SketchCow Now grabbing german.
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18:21 🔗 swebb Can I get ops?
18:21 🔗 swebb Can I get ops?
18:21 🔗 schbirid not from me
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19:05 🔗 schbirid midas: can you check if "Scio - Non fa per me" is in the jamendo archive and sent me the license and id?
19:06 🔗 schbirid fuck jamendo for not keeping an archive of removed songs
19:06 🔗 schbirid got a copyright claim on youtube on that track
19:06 🔗 schbirid and youtube does not let me see my fucking own description where the license and url are
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19:45 🔗 godane SketchCow: may 2007 of kpfa is getting uploaded
19:46 🔗 godane i ran like 4 days with 8 proxy ip addresses
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22:52 🔗 yipdw idea: a websocket interface for uBlock to pass URLs to an isolated Web browser to facilitate click fraud
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