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00:40 🔗 Start http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/16/5d-discs-can-store-data-until-well-after-the-sun-burns-out/
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00:46 🔗 arkiver Start: that's awesoe
00:46 🔗 arkiver awesome
00:48 🔗 ndiddy but there's only 3 dimensions
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01:01 🔗 godane we need to get that tech out in less then 10 years
01:02 🔗 HCross2 Thing is, there is no way of testing it
01:02 🔗 HCross2 We just have to wait
01:02 🔗 godane other wise we will be have 3PB hard drives when it come
01:03 🔗 godane every time a new optical disc cames out hard drives are about 5 to 10 bigger
01:03 🔗 godane at least with dvd and bluray
01:03 🔗 godane cds was the only one that was ahead of its time in storage
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01:44 🔗 godane i'm uploading 2 dvd set of CBS Saturday Morning Cartoons 7-4-87 WOC
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03:17 🔗 MrRadar2 My connection to irc.efnet.net dropped on my main client and it won't reconnect. Is anyone else having a similar issue?
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03:24 🔗 snape The Internet is just plain being derpy today. :/
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03:33 🔗 snape Hmm, IA may not like PAR2 files after all; item I uploaded last night as a test has been removed. Didn't get an email, but "The item is not available due to issues with the item's content." Noted.
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03:34 🔗 Frogging1 stupid EFNet not letting me connect
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03:35 🔗 xmc snape: weird. i'd email info@archive.org and ask what's up.
03:35 🔗 xmc snape: actually, what's the item name?
03:36 🔗 snape https://archive.org/details/StPaulBurglaries20082009
03:37 🔗 xmc [comment]spam-es-all[/comment]
03:37 🔗 xmc it got caught in a spam filter, sounds like
03:37 🔗 xmc not sure if you can view this https://catalogd.archive.org/log/463262893
03:38 🔗 xmc but that's the log of removing it from public view
03:39 🔗 snape Huh, weird. Not a big deal, just some FOIA'd spreadsheets.
03:40 🔗 xmc you should probably consider emailing info@ anyway, tell them their spam filter is trigger-happy
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03:42 🔗 snape I'll e-mail 'em in the morning, see if there's an explanation. Eh, didn't lock or delete the account, so not a huge deal, like I said, just weird.
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03:56 🔗 * xmc nod
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04:04 🔗 vitzli uh, how should I properly upload warcs to the IA? I don't have .cdx in the item, but I thought IA makes them automatically when not present. I did mediatype: web and collection:opensource, but the page did not appear in the wayback machine
04:05 🔗 xmc it won't be in wayback unless it gets special dispensation
04:07 🔗 vitzli so .cdx is the issue?
04:08 🔗 dashcloud no- normal users just don't have the ability to add items to the wayback
04:09 🔗 dashcloud you can certainly upload WARCs and mention them as such (the ArchiveTeam Just in Time collection is full of these), but only certain users can actually add warcs to the wayback machine
04:11 🔗 vitzli https://archive.org/details/ws-tikunovainarodru-20151101 - this was the item that got there before, and here is its page https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tikunova-i.narod.ru/ - it got the date it was crawled
04:11 🔗 vitzli but this one https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-telenor-indp-annliel is different
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04:33 🔗 vitzli that's because I'm retarded, that why
04:34 🔗 vitzli I had x-archive-queue-derive:0 because I've been uploading .tars . IA and Wayback are fine
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04:38 🔗 JesseW Have others been noticing unusually high difficulty finding a working efnet server, or is it just me?
04:40 🔗 vitzli irc.umich.edu asks for pong reply, which my client cannot provide, and some other servers are unavailable
04:40 🔗 JesseW hm
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04:46 🔗 SketchCow youtubearchive back
04:46 🔗 xmc JesseW: i, too. ... but your client can't do pong? that's unusual.
04:47 🔗 JesseW I'm using Pidgin -- I think it just treats pong requests as private messages; I suppose it supports them, but I'm not sure how.
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04:48 🔗 JesseW (but I presume you were talking to vitzli)
04:48 🔗 xmc odd
04:48 🔗 xmc oh huh yeah
04:48 🔗 vitzli it does ping-pong auth, not IRC pongs
04:49 🔗 vitzli it does thing like this http://pastebin.com/YizvUMfR
04:50 🔗 xmc looks like an irc captcha
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05:10 🔗 vitzli xmc, I almost never get a chance to respond to it, disconnect in 30 or something seconds and it goes after another server
05:11 🔗 xmc huh
05:11 🔗 xmc ok
05:14 🔗 Frogging I too was having trouble finding a working EFNet server earlier
05:15 🔗 Frogging JesseW: ^
05:15 🔗 Frogging one of them gave me an error saying I didn't have identd running, and a bunch of others just didn't respond
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05:32 🔗 JesseW Frogging: good to know it's a general problem
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09:18 🔗 HCross2 IRC.servercentral.net never gives me issues
09:22 🔗 dan- I usually just use the ssl roundrobin: ssl.efnet.org
09:22 🔗 dan- works fine, though sometimes there's about a minute wait between connecting and it actually sending me the registration for some reason
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11:11 🔗 HCross Our Newsbuddy has a bit of a morning ahead of it :) http://newsgrabber.harrycross.me:29000
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11:16 🔗 Sum what does the bot do, HCross?
11:17 🔗 HCross it has a set of news sites in it, and it goes back and re crawls them for new news every so often (the time is set for each site)
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14:44 🔗 vitzli sorry about this, umich.edu got DNSBL on me
14:49 🔗 vitzli I'm doing an audit for isohunt.teapot.2013, got all the .torrent files (going to extract file list, sizes and infohashes). What would you like to see in the audit? Here is what I found https://0bin.net/paste/Z5+URgfrdc+wa8Ck# (I have not processed .warc.gz yet and have no idea what to do with them)
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14:54 🔗 vitzli and copy if 0bin is misbehaving - https://paste.ee/p/13sse
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15:48 🔗 snape Saw a notice that a large k-pop fansite aoatoz.com is shutting down March 1st, apparently. Might be worth throwing in archivebot for posterity, or something. Announcement in Korean seems to be here: http://aoatoz.com/Notice/10912
16:20 🔗 Fletcher snape, do you speak korean/have a source in english? The gtranslated version of that page seems to be "January 3 aoatoz part is closed. Until then, you can not connect and access hasilsu starting March 1. Meanwhile, Thank you for your love."
16:23 🔗 snape Stumbled across it on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ffyeahh/status/699864613400109056 - not sure if you need to be logged into Twitter for that link to work, tho
16:26 🔗 Fletcher kk, we should be able to get it in 10 days
16:27 🔗 MrRadar It looks like their forums require an account to view
16:28 🔗 MrRadar And the site uses JS to generate some links (view http://aoatoz.com/Photo with NoScript enabled)
16:29 🔗 MrRadar So I don't know how well ArchiveBot will do with it
16:30 🔗 Fletcher phantomjs may be able to process the links, the forum is another matter :/
16:37 🔗 SketchCow From Gametrailers Guy:
16:37 🔗 SketchCow sorry for the late reply been a hectic week, not a lot of time to look at personal email. Real quick, I TOTALLY KNOW JASON SCOTT. I follow him on twitter. Rad. It's weird to see my ezine from when I was 16 on there: http://web.textfiles.com/ezines/BLOST/
16:37 🔗 SketchCow I have Brandon Jones and Daniel Bloodworth copied. Brandon founded GT and was there the entire time and Bloodworth is the 2nd longest member, he started a bit after me but stayed on 2 years later and a general librarian sort of stand up guy. Also might still be on his honeymoon. I know a lot of freelance archivist have been backing things up, but Daniel and Jones and probably fill you in what wa
16:37 🔗 SketchCow s lost with the data migration from Viacom's servers to Defy (I can't find my interview with Lil Jon for example)
16:37 🔗 SketchCow Also I know some stuff has been popping up on yt that the archivers haven't gotten, someone uploaded many (all?) of the episodes of the Invisible Walls show we did.
16:37 🔗 SketchCow Non-video wise, I think the short run user blogs, Reset columns, and Side Mission news blog are probably lost causes.
16:37 🔗 SketchCow Again, sorry for the delay
16:37 🔗 SketchCow -RS
16:45 🔗 MrRadar It's good that some people over there cares but also depressing that they didn't have any kind of formal archive/backup of their own content
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17:03 🔗 schbirid reminds me of $randomgamingsite in the past
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17:57 🔗 VADemon xarph: Could it turn into a problem for us eventually? E.g. we scare away their customers by our "unfounded" warning?
17:57 🔗 xarph Wouldn't it just link to their EOL messages that they've already published?
17:58 🔗 xarph for everything else there's http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Alive..._OR_ARE_THEY
17:59 🔗 VADemon I thought you were talking about services at potential risk
17:59 🔗 snape There are two kinds of cloud storage services: the dead and the dying. On which sort are your precious files stashed? /s
18:01 🔗 xarph VADemon I'm just trying to find a home for messages about services that have announced they're closing but don't have any public data to archive, yet are relied on by customers who may not see the message.
18:03 🔗 VADemon If it's going to be a public service to warn users about confirmed shutdowns, it'd be perfect if we had communication in both ways: We warn subscribed users (via Twitter for example) and they send us new endangered websites
18:05 🔗 JW_work2 :thumb:
18:05 🔗 VADemon xarph: then I wonder how we're gonna deliver the message if the customers themselves happen to oversee the official notice
18:05 🔗 xarph that is a good point
18:08 🔗 snape If they overlook the "An Important Message From Barracuda" e-mail in their inbox, they're just as likely to overlook the "Barracuda Copy is going away, migrate migrate migrate!" tweet as it flies by in the middle of the night, their local time...
18:10 🔗 VADemon Some people don't check emails but social networks
18:10 🔗 VADemon This sort of people care more about their social network account than everything else
18:12 🔗 JW_work2 I value the Deathwatch page more as a archival record of sites that have died, personally.
18:13 🔗 Smiley a shaming page
18:15 🔗 snape Nah, if it were a shaming page there'd be headings like "Services That Thought They Could Compete With Facebook And Were Wrong", "Services That Thought They Could Compete With Twitter And Were Wrong", "Services That Didn't Stop To Wonder Why Yahoo's Cheque Smelled of Brimstone Until it was Too Late", etc...
18:16 🔗 Smiley :D
18:16 🔗 Smiley your username is SO fitting
18:17 🔗 VADemon JW_work2: isn't it going off-topic then? I imagined the page would have a list of websites to keep an eye at
18:17 🔗 VADemon Hence a separate page for DEAD websites/services
18:18 🔗 snape Where have notices about announced-to-be-closing services gone in the past, if anywhere?
18:23 🔗 VADemon snape: for now I think Deathwatch serves both purposes
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19:18 🔗 schbirid oh god fuck https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/1581
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20:49 🔗 snape http://www.businessinsider.com/yahoo-shutting-down-half-of-its-verticals-including-tech-news-site-2016-2
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20:50 🔗 snape "...today we will begin phasing out the following Digital Magazines: Yahoo Food, Yahoo Health, Yahoo Parenting, Yahoo Makers, Yahoo Travel, Yahoo Autos and Yahoo Real Estate"
20:51 🔗 HCross Fuck Yahoo
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20:55 🔗 snape Just when you thought FOS was getting ahead of the backlog, bam, here comes Yahoo with seven more death notices...
20:57 🔗 JW_work2 http://gawker.com/the-foia-training-video-that-the-pentagon-redacted-1549037834
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20:58 🔗 snape Here's the official announcement, on Tumblr, lol: http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/139499083084/focusing-our-digital-content-efforts
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21:03 🔗 Frogging Fucking Yahoo
21:03 🔗 Frogging They've caused so much data loss
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21:27 🔗 * snape suggests only half in jest that Yahoo Food, Health, Parenting, makers, Travel, Autos and Real Estate get #YahoosBinge, #YahoosPurge, #YahoosBreed, #YahoosWithScissors, #YahooTourists, #YahooCarAds, and #YahooCribz, respectively
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21:30 🔗 xmc i like some of those
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22:20 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm uploading 2008-11 of kpfa
22:20 🔗 godane also i have mostof 2008-12 downloaded
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22:22 🔗 SketchCow Thank you!
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22:30 🔗 godane for a few seconds i was afraid that kpfa pulled there back archives
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22:31 🔗 SketchCow FOS IS SICK
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22:32 🔗 godane my proxies grab and normal download stopped all at once and i had trouble connecting
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