#archiveteam-bs 2016-03-27,Sun

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00:10 🔗 arkiver HCross: awesome!
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02:56 🔗 godane i'm at 666k items
02:59 🔗 yipdw beastin'
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03:55 🔗 godane so all of 1990 tagesschau 2000 is uploaded
03:57 🔗 godane all of the newer ones so far: https://archive.org/details/godaneinbox?sort=-publicdate&and[]=subject%3A%22tagesschau%22
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05:07 🔗 hook54321 anyone know if their is a limit to how much someone can store on archive.org?
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05:46 🔗 JesseW hook54321: As long as what you are storing is seen (by IA staff) as contributing to the mission, there's no practical limit. If what you store creates legal or other trouble for IA, or is noticed for some other reason, and having been noticed, is seen as not contributing to the mission, then it may (likely will) be made inaccessible and the account you used to upload it may be prevented from uploading anything further. The best way to think about IA i
05:46 🔗 Frogging JesseW: you got cut off at "about IA i"
05:47 🔗 JesseW Frogging: thanks, will repost in smaller chunks.
05:47 🔗 JesseW hook54321: As long as what you are storing is seen (by IA staff) as contributing to the mission, there's no practical limit.
05:47 🔗 JesseW If what you store creates legal or other trouble for IA, or is noticed for some other reason, and having been noticed, is seen as not contributing to the mission, then it may (likely will) be made inaccessible and the account you used to upload it may be prevented from uploading anything further.
05:47 🔗 JesseW The best way to think about IA is not as a place for *you* to store stuff, but a place where stuff of general social value can be stored, and you can volunteer to be a custodian for some of it (by uploading it through your account).
05:47 🔗 JesseW If you want to volunteer to be a custodian for a whole LOT of stuff, as long as it's of value, that's welcomed.
05:47 🔗 JesseW (I am not a staffer at IA, or otherwise have much of any insider knowledge; this is just my observations from the outside.)
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07:18 🔗 godane looks like gawker.com has everything up to 2015 now
07:26 🔗 godane i'm uploading tagesschau 20 clock evening news for 1991-01
07:26 🔗 godane and eric archive pdfs
07:43 🔗 godane looks like 1947-12 and 1994-05 sky and telescope was not uploaded
07:44 🔗 godane they are uploaded now i think
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08:43 🔗 godane i'm official at 667k items now
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09:16 🔗 alfie morning all :) busy moving house, found my box of floppies and tapes and such, will see if there's anything interesting on them soon!
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12:59 🔗 godane i'm grabbing mugenarchive.com download links
12:59 🔗 godane just cause its there
13:23 🔗 godane now that i'm a member of mugenarchive.com i'm getting all of the download files
13:24 🔗 godane good news is one actionhash works for all download ids
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15:35 🔗 dashcloud alfie: here's some info on dumping DOS/Windows floppies: http://digitize.archiveteam.org/index.php/Floppy_Disks
15:42 🔗 joepie91 'An IRC pal gave me a "fun" tip recently, and I've been trying it: when you find a site that's awful, change to a mobile user agent and be amazed at how your desktop experience is suddenly usable again! This works depressingly well depressingly often. On a related note, it also works well to prepend "Mobile " to your elinks UA.'
15:47 🔗 dashcloud except for the fact that then you get bombarded with "Download our app!" "Open this in our app!"
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15:50 🔗 mr-b lol
15:57 🔗 joepie91 sigh: https://eev.ee/blog/2016/03/06/maybe-we-could-tone-down-the-javascript/#comment-2555914780
15:57 🔗 joepie91 "I hate webdev so I'm going to write shitty apps"
15:57 🔗 joepie91 then maybe don't do webdev...?
16:22 🔗 mr-b irony using that site
16:22 🔗 mr-b comments: Apologies, but part of running a static blog is that the comments are served by Disqus's JavaScript slurry.
16:22 🔗 mr-b =)
16:33 🔗 joepie91 yep
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17:59 🔗 SimpBrain hey is bitsnoop.com working for people or have they been fbi'ed?
18:02 🔗 HCross SimpBrain, works from OVH GRA
18:02 🔗 SimpBrain hmm, i get a fbi cyber crime page
18:03 🔗 HCross DNS might be changing
18:03 🔗 HCross What does it resolve to for you?
18:03 🔗 SimpBrain https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber
18:04 🔗 SimpBrain this is from my online.net vpn
18:04 🔗 HCross strange, fine from M247
18:05 🔗 SimpBrain my webpage proxy gives actual bitsnoop website
18:05 🔗 SimpBrain really strange indeed
18:06 🔗 HCross Might I suggest we download the heck out of it?
18:08 🔗 HCross I get it from Online too
18:09 🔗 SimpBrain data dumps seems to be available from the online.net vpn, but not the homepage
18:10 🔗 SimpBrain traceroute to www.bitsnoop.com (31.7.59.14), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
18:11 🔗 HCross I tried it from my home line, and was met with http://assets.virginmedia.com/site-blocked.html
18:13 🔗 SimpBrain i wont drop to my sky ip but it'll prob be blocked
18:14 🔗 HCross Its not blocked from whatever archivebot pipeline is downloading it
18:15 🔗 SimpBrain really strange
18:15 🔗 SimpBrain whatever dns i have must be redirecting to fbi
18:15 🔗 HCross Trying to get it fast, if its is being taken down
18:15 🔗 PurpleSym Resolves to 31.7.59.14 for me too and works fine.
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18:17 🔗 HCross We wont get a lot, but getting what I can in the time that we can
18:18 🔗 SimpBrain try and grab any api data dumps too
18:18 🔗 SimpBrain http://ext.bitsnoop.com/export/b3_all.txt.gz
18:18 🔗 SimpBrain http://ext.bitsnoop.com/export/b3_verified.txt.gz
18:18 🔗 HCross Not sure how to do that
18:18 🔗 SimpBrain http://ext.bitsnoop.com/export/b3_e003_trackers.txt.gz
18:18 🔗 SimpBrain http://ext.bitsnoop.com/export/b3_e003_torrents.txt.gz
18:19 🔗 HCross Is that htem all?
18:19 🔗 SimpBrain there's some more urls but they rely on the site url being correct
18:20 🔗 SimpBrain http://www.bitsnoop.com/api/latest_tz.php?t=all
18:20 🔗 SimpBrain http://www.bitsnoop.com/api/latest_tz.php?t=verified
18:21 🔗 SimpBrain 24.0 million torrents
18:21 🔗 SimpBrain 29.7 PB of files
18:21 🔗 SimpBrain at least 15 pb will be 0 seed :p
18:22 🔗 HCross Yeah
18:22 🔗 Frogging dead torrents make me sad
18:22 🔗 Frogging I'm the final seed on a bunch, and I can't let them go
18:23 🔗 SimpBrain someone out there probably has them archived on discs somewhere
18:23 🔗 Frogging little use to anyone if they're not online
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19:02 🔗 bsmith093 Frogging: anything interesting?
19:02 🔗 Frogging nah, not really :p
19:03 🔗 bsmith093 rare shows? i mostly collect semi rare and one off shows and movies and things of that nature.
19:04 🔗 Frogging High quality encodes of Fringe. High-quality anything is hard to come by on public P2P
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19:05 🔗 SimpBrain got that on blu ray
19:05 🔗 SimpBrain amazing show
19:08 🔗 bsmith093 i found all of kablam, including the one off pilot henry and june show.
19:09 🔗 bsmith093 JesseW: how goes the repacking, just the big three to go?
19:27 🔗 JesseW yep
19:27 🔗 JesseW I've been away from my computer for the last couple of days, so thanks for the reminder to start on those
19:28 🔗 JesseW also I need to combine all the tiny (and not so tiny) csv files into one big (either csv or sqlite) database.
19:28 🔗 JesseW bsmith093: could you confirm that the other zip files made it up to FOS correctly (by say downloading one of the smaller ones and checking it)?
19:37 🔗 * JesseW started the all-the-H's-except-Harry-Potter zip job
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19:53 🔗 joepie91 heh
20:00 🔗 joepie91 any Go devs here?
20:02 🔗 dan- I do a little bit of go stuff
20:03 🔗 joepie91 dan-: would you happen to have some spare time to help out an open-source project (Gogs) security-wise by changing string-concatenated queries to parameterized queries?
20:04 🔗 SimpBrain o.O
20:06 🔗 dan- joepie91: ah, I use gogs! unfortunately I don't really right now, busy looking for new job
20:06 🔗 dan- I'll take a look and see what I can do today
20:07 🔗 joepie91 dan-: would be much appreciated - thread is at https://github.com/gogits/gogs/issues/2892
20:07 🔗 joepie91 maintainers indicated they're welcoming PRs to fix it
20:07 🔗 joepie91 so even changing over a part of it would be a good thing
20:08 🔗 dan- ah thanks for the link, once I start looking, if I'm able to switch some over I'll add a comment in there
20:09 🔗 SimpBrain is it adding "'s to the db?
20:10 🔗 * SimpBrain quickly looks at it
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20:14 🔗 JesseW I'll see if I can look at it
20:15 🔗 joepie91 grep command for (I think) locating all the instances of string concat
20:15 🔗 joepie91 grep -rE "\+.*ToStr\(" .
20:15 🔗 joepie91 cc dan- JesseW
20:15 🔗 joepie91 it seems to be limited
20:16 🔗 JesseW bsmith093: looks like my effort to ignore the Harry Potter stuff didn't work -- trying again after *moving* it aside
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20:23 🔗 JesseW joepie91: so gogs is a github-alternative, ish?
20:25 🔗 dan- basically yeah, self-hosted alternative, kinda like gitlab
20:28 🔗 JesseW what's the difference between it an gitlab?
20:29 🔗 joepie91 JesseW: gogs is an almost literal github clone, and is easy to deploy
20:29 🔗 joepie91 unlike gitlab which is Rails :)
20:29 🔗 JesseW seems like gogs is focused somewhat more on single-person/project deployments, vs gitlab for larger ones.
20:29 🔗 joepie91 (and near unusable, imo)
20:29 🔗 JesseW Ah, ok
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20:45 🔗 PurpleSym IA is uploading book images to Flickr? https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/
20:50 🔗 joepie91 archiveception
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21:25 🔗 BnA-Rob1n Probably the access drives preservation mindset. grab all the things and then provide access to as many as possible
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21:48 🔗 alfie joepie91: i know i'm late to the party, but i tried to deploy gitlab once. because i was (god forbid) running other shit on that webserver too, i couldn't use their one-click deployment whatever and the docs were SORELY LACKING when it came to "how2 existing nginx" which was a pain because no matter what i tried (sane setup wise) it just wouldn't play nice
21:48 🔗 alfie so i gave up and just used plain ol' git and ssh
21:54 🔗 joepie91 of course
21:54 🔗 joepie91 gitlab was never an option for me
21:54 🔗 joepie91 it's Ruby
21:55 🔗 joepie91 that automatically disqualifies it from voluntary deployment
21:55 🔗 joepie91 :p
21:58 🔗 zino joepie91: So Ruby is your PHP? First time I've met that particular aversion. :)
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22:12 🔗 joepie91 zino: nah, PHP has been barred entry also, but for different reasons
22:13 🔗 godane SketchCow: 2012-12 of kpfa is being uploaded
22:13 🔗 joepie91 zino: Ruby translates roughly to "deployment and dependency nightmare"
22:13 🔗 joepie91 every time i attempt to install anything Ruby, desktop app or server daemon, doesn't matter... it inevitably ends up with me chasing dependencies, having to install 20 different package and version managers, crawling through obscure errors, and then finding out that one Ruby thing conflicts with another
22:13 🔗 joepie91 I'm sick of it
22:13 🔗 joepie91 so everything Ruby is now just automatically denied entry
22:14 🔗 joepie91 until they can get their dep ecosystem in order
22:20 🔗 JesseW bsmith093: did H (minus Harry Potter), now doing N (minutes Naruto)
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22:31 🔗 JesseW joepie91: I'll be somewhat delayed in helping out with gogs, because I'm currently back on debian wheezy, and this is enough of a prompt to get me to (finally) upgrade to jessie, for which I want to make a full backup first, so... delays.
22:32 🔗 joepie91 JesseW: sure :P there's some progress in the thread right now anyway
22:34 🔗 JesseW yeah, reading now
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22:52 🔗 ersi joepie91: What's your opinion on python, then?
22:54 🔗 joepie91 ersi: slightly less disastrous. still a mess. I prefer avoiding it, but it's not outright banned
22:54 🔗 joepie91 mostly because Python software tends to either vendor in deps or limit the amount of them
22:54 🔗 joepie91 and/or deps have endless backwards compat
22:55 🔗 joepie91 (the reason PHP is banned, is security, btw)
22:56 🔗 JesseW bsmith093: N (minus Naruto) done, now working on T (minus Twilight)
22:57 🔗 bsmith093 JesseW: way ahead of you, i dl-d them as soon as you were done uploading. do you happen to have an md5 file i could check, but they seem to open file
22:57 🔗 JesseW H_rest came out to be 6G, and N_rest at 1.8G
22:58 🔗 bsmith093 *fine, and ectract as well
22:58 🔗 JesseW I haven't made md5sums for them yet; I'll do that.
22:59 🔗 JesseW actually, I think I'll wait until I finish all of them, then md5sum the lot.
23:01 🔗 joepie91 http://i.imgur.com/QyRxSmh.png
23:01 🔗 JesseW joepie91: what is that from?
23:01 🔗 JesseW and hey, at least it hasn't degrenerated to random keyboard smash yet...
23:08 🔗 bsmith093 I'm md5-ing what i have, and you can compare when you're done zipping
23:10 🔗 JesseW cool, thanks
23:14 🔗 joepie91 JesseW: private repo for dumping misc stuff in
23:14 🔗 joepie91 :p
23:14 🔗 joepie91 I have Gogs running now
23:15 🔗 joepie91 https://git.cryto.net/
23:15 🔗 joepie91 just need to import my repos now
23:17 🔗 JesseW hm, might be worth hacking up a shell alias to insert random words as commit messages. :-P
23:17 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:21 🔗 JesseW bsmith093: got your md5s, thanks
23:21 🔗 bsmith093 np
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