#archiveteam-bs 2016-05-08,Sun

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01:25 🔗 phuzion arkiver: I doubt such a thing exists, but I would be willing to bet it could be derived out of data in the wayback machine.
01:25 🔗 phuzion Basically "gimme every single dang domain wayback machine has ever pulled a page from"
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02:23 🔗 ndiddy i wonder if this how retro gaming on real hardware will be in the future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHIVGxNnkbA
02:26 🔗 ndiddy retro dos gaming, that is
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03:39 🔗 SketchCow Procrastinating now has moved to me writing a "make sure the cover of the hip hop tape is the right one"
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08:00 🔗 vitzli arkiver, may I pm you?
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12:00 🔗 arkiver vitzli: sure!
13:10 🔗 godane all 72 of Micronesian Seminar are uploaded now
13:24 🔗 godane also 2008 of loveline is uploaded
13:25 🔗 godane i uploaded both low and high mp3s
13:25 🔗 godane mostly so we can know for sure which ones a broken no matter what bitrate
13:26 🔗 godane example: https://archive.org/details/loveline-podcast-2008-12-01
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14:25 🔗 godane i'm uploading BBC The Net Series 1
16:44 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/BBC_The_Net_Series_1_1994_Series
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18:33 🔗 Kazzy person complaining is wrong, but your justification is also wrong, "closing all webbrowsers" works just as well, and probably explains it to a user better than "killing"
18:33 🔗 Kazzy users are dumb, gotta work around it as best as possible
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18:33 🔗 bwn pebcak
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20:45 🔗 atrocity oh, i did change it to "closing browsers", just her reasoning was we shouldn't have killing in anything, lol
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20:52 🔗 Frogging that's along the same line of thinking that has people brigading projects on GitHub to change terms like "master/slave" because it might offend someone
20:52 🔗 Frogging pisses me off
21:19 🔗 FalconK right?
21:19 🔗 FalconK ugh
21:19 🔗 FalconK I mean I don't write new services using that terminology but
21:20 🔗 FalconK surely that effort could be put to better use :/
21:24 🔗 Frogging not much else you can do with a gender studies degree I guess :p
21:25 🔗 pikhq Master/slave terminology *does* kinda suck...
21:25 🔗 pikhq On the other hand, in the absence of a reasonable alternative WTF are you gonna do.
21:25 🔗 Frogging i think people need to learn to stop being offended by terminology
21:26 🔗 pikhq Terminology can be important. That said, there's rather more important things to be looking at.
21:26 🔗 pikhq *cough*real demonstrable discrimination against certain types of people*cough*
21:38 🔗 joepie91 the master/slave terminology is generally accurate when used in technology
21:38 🔗 joepie91 whether you like the concept when applied to humans or not, is orthogonal to that
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21:40 🔗 joepie91 pikhq: as for 'terminology can be important' , this is nowhere near as much of a self-evident truth as people think it is
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23:21 🔗 yipdw ugh goddamnit locales strike again
23:21 🔗 yipdw cairo 1.14.6, in its default configuration, does not seem to build if your locale is not a UTF-8 locale
23:21 🔗 yipdw (the Ubuntu 16.04 official Docker images do not have a UTF-8 locale set out of the box)
23:22 🔗 yipdw the reason seems to be that the cairo.def rule uses grep on header files to extract definitions, and the header files contain ©
23:22 🔗 Frogging lol wow
23:22 🔗 yipdw since the locale is POSIX and the file is UTF-8, newer versions of GNU grep do stuff like "Binary file cairo.h matches" which blows the shit out of the cairo.def rule
23:23 🔗 yipdw this was basically my Saturday when I was supposed to be working on GUI stuff
23:24 🔗 yipdw I feel like I should submit a patch to cairo to use grep -a, but then some pedantic nerd is going to say that -a isn't a universal option because it doesn't work on SCO Unixware or some shit and so therefore fuck you everyone should suffer
23:24 🔗 yipdw ^ Open Source
23:25 🔗 Frogging try it and see :p
23:25 🔗 Frogging i like to think the outcome would be more reasonable than that
23:25 🔗 yipdw I don't expect it, I've had too much experience
23:25 🔗 yipdw anyway just a rant
23:28 🔗 yipdw actually they probably wouldn't do that
23:28 🔗 yipdw they'd probably tell me to file a bug against the Ubuntu docker images
23:28 🔗 yipdw and then Canonical would go tell me to go file a bug against Cairo
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23:28 🔗 yipdw and then the workaround will be "write ENV LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in all your Dockerfiles" and won't ever be properly documented
23:31 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:31 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: you sound jaded :P
23:31 🔗 yipdw yeah
23:32 🔗 yipdw I probably should file a bug against something, I'm just too annoyed to write one right now
23:32 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: I feel like there should be some kind of neutral-ground bug tracker
23:32 🔗 joepie91 for cases like this
23:32 🔗 joepie91 where you just file your bug against no project in particulkar
23:32 🔗 joepie91 and let the maintainers fight it out
23:32 🔗 yipdw it would be nice, but I don't know how you'd find a bug
23:33 🔗 joepie91 (who's responsible, that is)
23:34 🔗 yipdw ha
23:35 🔗 yipdw SPEAKING OF that now I'm getting this:
23:35 🔗 yipdw /usr/bin/ld: pinion-test: hidden symbol `__cpu_model' in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/libgcc.a(cpuinfo.o) is referenced by DSO
23:35 🔗 yipdw so is this a g++ problem or an ld problem or a
23:35 🔗 yipdw I think this is my cue to just step away from the computer for a while
23:36 🔗 JesseW "neutral-ground bug tracker" ==> stackoverflow
23:36 🔗 JesseW ha ha only serious
23:37 🔗 yipdw it's pretty true
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23:49 🔗 joepie91 JesseW: :(
23:54 🔗 JesseW joepie91: ah, care to expand on that?
23:57 🔗 joepie91 JesseW: when a Q&A site is your best hope at getting something fixed.. :P

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