#archiveteam-bs 2016-06-16,Thu

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00:03 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: thoughts on self-contained app packages?
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00:05 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: for what definition of "self-contained"? a la statically compiled, Docker image, universal Ubuntu app crap?
00:05 🔗 joepie91 or otherwise?
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00:06 🔗 dashcloud something like that- the app is available for multi distributions by packaging everything it needs inside, and you just run the app bundle
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00:06 🔗 joepie91 yeah, no, strongly opposed to that
00:06 🔗 joepie91 security nightmare, massive overhead
00:06 🔗 joepie91 no real benefits as compared to a reasonable packaging/dependency model like that of Nix
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00:07 🔗 dashcloud even for beta or pre-release versions so you can get a larger testing base? (assuming that releases are packaged and available normally)
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00:10 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: sure, don't see why that would be any different?
00:14 🔗 alfie dashcloud: docker and the like are a colossal pain in the balls for everyone who isn't a docker fanperson
00:15 🔗 alfie overheads are colossal, they provide no actual benefits beyond making it easy for people who don't understand what they're doing to do something they don't understand
00:17 🔗 alfie and even that isn't a benifit
00:17 🔗 alfie benefit? spelling is hard
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00:27 🔗 SketchCow First Truck Truther Arrives: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11912794
00:29 🔗 godane thats just odd
00:29 🔗 DoomTay !ao https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11912794
00:29 🔗 DoomTay Oops
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00:44 🔗 dashcloud This is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Records_System
00:47 🔗 SketchCow IA back
00:48 🔗 DoomTay Yay
00:49 🔗 godane SketchCow: we have kotaku.com sitemap urls up to 2016-05
00:50 🔗 godane there are alot of game gifs in kotaku web archive
00:57 🔗 godane like 1 to 2 gb per a month with kotaku vs other gawster sites
00:58 🔗 godane *gawker sites
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01:07 🔗 dashcloud how about jalopnik and it's sub-sites?
01:08 🔗 dashcloud time to nominate your favorites for the Pwnie Awards: http://pwnies.com/nominations/
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01:11 🔗 godane i'm going after io9.gizmodo.com right now
01:12 🔗 DoomTay !status 898736duolpubuti5c30kbp30
01:12 🔗 DoomTay !status 898736duolpubuti5c30kbp30
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01:40 🔗 SketchCow Tell me about DoomTay, people
01:40 🔗 SketchCow I'll check when I'm on the bullet train
01:40 🔗 DoomTay Uh...what?
01:40 🔗 SketchCow Shhh
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03:19 🔗 godane looks like i have to redo io9.gizmodo.com sitemap for 2012-02
03:19 🔗 godane cause it was set to for 28 days instead of 29 cause it was a leap year
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04:39 🔗 godane looks like they blocked wayback of pages: http://www.veritybaptist.com/robots.txt
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04:40 🔗 DoomTay Bastards
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12:50 🔗 ranma can anyone tell me much about popcultureclassroom.org [162.214.30.28] ?
12:51 🔗 ranma e.g. host and why the fuck they can't be accessed? (denver comic con is selling tickets on there)
12:51 🔗 ranma is it a robots.txt issue?
12:51 🔗 ranma i'm showing NetName UNIFIEDLAYER-NETWORK-15
12:52 🔗 ranma OrgName Unified Layer
12:53 🔗 ranma unifiedlayer.com is just a crap page. googling the name leads to https://unitedlayer.com/ who boast of hosting wikipedia
12:54 🔗 ranma and would cloudflare help them?
12:56 🔗 ranma *is the unavailability of a recent crawl on IA a robots.txt issue
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13:34 🔗 Medowar ranma: Unified Layer belongs to the Endurance International Group, to which hostgator and bluehost and some other webhosting companys belong. So probaply one of these: http://www.endurance.com/our-company/our-brands
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13:40 🔗 Medowar And UnitedLayer is just subleasing Datacenter Space from Telx and Coresite. So wikimedia may have a cache in one of those datacenters
13:51 🔗 Medowar I think, they have a server from one of those companys, but the domain and dns is hosted by inmotionhosting.com, blabla obvious whois denvercomiccon@gmail.com. I think it currently has a hoster problem like beeing unplugged, since the last Instance reports it as unreachable after 2,5 Seconds.
13:51 🔗 Medowar uses office365 for mail. Detailed enough or need more info
14:04 🔗 ranma that's enough for me to start. thanks!
14:06 🔗 ranma not used to reading whois data for ACTUALLY useful info like tech support info x) ...forgot the fact that i manually put an anonymised email for myself in my whois info
14:23 🔗 joepie91 Medowar: Unified != United
14:24 🔗 Medowar I know. It was just some sideinfo to unitedlayer, who ranma mentioned.
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14:34 🔗 ranma united was the first google result for united layer
14:35 🔗 ranma *unified layer
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15:33 🔗 DoomTay I'm putting together that /r/AbandonedWebsites list right now, but some heads up:
15:34 🔗 DoomTay http://www.ironmanarmory.com/ has already been saved, and http://www.raisedcomputerfloors.com/ actually has updated their site this year. Should I leave those in the list anyway?
15:34 🔗 DoomTay Or should I direct these questions toward #archivebot?
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18:33 🔗 zino Got my ebay-bought CopyPro 2000 in the mail today. 40min of dismantling, cleaning and EPROM-dumping later it's working. I can now massproduce 3.5" floppies from a master. A function I will never again use after having tested it. :)
18:38 🔗 xmc oooo
18:39 🔗 xmc can you also read a stack of floppies?
18:39 🔗 zino xmc: Well, not yet, but that is the plan. I only got it to get the feeder functionality for dumping floppies.
18:40 🔗 xmc yeah, that's what i had in mind too
18:41 🔗 zino I stole the idea from this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmTA9SH_VKk
19:00 🔗 arkiver zino: that's very nice
19:07 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload verity baptist sermons
19:08 🔗 arkiver zino: that's very nice
19:08 🔗 arkiver ops
19:08 🔗 arkiver oops
19:10 🔗 zino It's double-nice!
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20:29 🔗 xmc hawt
20:31 🔗 DoomTay Wat
20:32 🔗 xmc ===/wg 46
20:32 🔗 xmc misfire
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21:28 🔗 DoomTay Huh. Anything from tripod seems to be unresponsive
21:37 🔗 DoomTay !status 7jvo6dv188jzom67c35s1qoom
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23:24 🔗 godane SketchCow: another one of these items that are darked but not logged darked: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video27111
23:25 🔗 godane SketchCow: i have been doing audit of my g4video-web collection so i can delete it off a drive
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23:34 🔗 DoomTay Darked?
23:36 🔗 godane things get darked when a dmca noticed is issued by a copyright holder
23:37 🔗 DoomTay O
23:37 🔗 godane but some of my items for some reason have a issue being displayed
23:37 🔗 DoomTay I have a hunch those sermons will be "darked" eventually
23:38 🔗 godane true
23:39 🔗 DoomTay What's so special about them anyay?
23:39 🔗 godane the guy blocked ia_archiver in the robots
23:39 🔗 godane http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/15/its-not-a-tragedy-pastor-who-delivered-controversial-sermon-on-orlando-massacre-refuses-to-retract-comments/
23:40 🔗 DoomTay Ah
23:40 🔗 godane the website is saved anyways with archivebot
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23:42 🔗 yipdw wow, -fsanitize is awesome
23:43 🔗 DoomTay Oh?
23:43 🔗 yipdw it picked up a dumb cast I made in some code really, really quickly
23:43 🔗 DoomTay Cool
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23:52 🔗 DoomTay EVERY TIME!
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23:59 🔗 Atros is now known as atrocity
23:59 🔗 Fletcher since there's a couple of people with Fletcher_ on their auto op lists: Please update the hostmask, some oper is mad that I left root in the ident and set a kline :P
23:59 🔗 Fletcher sets mode: +o Fletcher_

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