#archiveteam-bs 2016-10-23,Sun

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00:06 🔗 ranma consumer "mastering" tool?
00:06 🔗 ranma e.g. nero, cdrwin, etc?
00:06 🔗 ranma cdjuggler
00:07 🔗 ranma i can't even think of the other/big ones
00:07 🔗 ranma adaptec?
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10:29 🔗 joepie91 ranma: there's a lot of them
10:29 🔗 joepie91 not consumer ones either
10:29 🔗 joepie91 I'm talking about like, SimCity
10:29 🔗 joepie91 Linux ISOs
10:29 🔗 joepie91 etc
10:29 🔗 joepie91 (actual Linux ISOs, not euphemistic ones)
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20:19 🔗 jsp12345 Interesting data source joepie... do you have to install the software to get the data you are looking for or do you parse the raw structure?
20:21 🔗 joepie91 http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html - "Xz format inadequate for long-term archiving"
20:21 🔗 joepie91 jsp12345: parsing the images directly
20:25 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: Agreed, CDs turn out to be bullshit
20:25 🔗 SketchCow Written at drivers, not specs
20:26 🔗 SketchCow If the driver read it we're done here
20:26 🔗 SketchCow Fuck you linux people and your later drivers
20:27 🔗 joepie91 pretty much - it feels like CD-ROM mastering tools were written by just mashing bits together until it worked on the test rig
20:27 🔗 joepie91 which... is probably not too far from the truth
20:27 🔗 SketchCow I talked with someone who used a mastering rig to do a CD-ROM in... 89? Ish?
20:27 🔗 SketchCow it was pretty crazy. $12,000 rig
20:27 🔗 SketchCow A lot of that being able to put 640mb in one place, of course
20:28 🔗 joepie91 heh
20:28 🔗 joepie91 $12k seems relatively cheap for a mastering rig in that time
20:28 🔗 joepie91 then again, the $ was worth more
20:28 🔗 jsp12345 Were the blanks like normal cds?
20:29 🔗 joepie91 seems like that'd equate about $23k today
20:49 🔗 joepie91 further ISO 9660 complaint: spec is so verbose that it often mentions the same jargon term 4-5 times in a single paragraph, yet it fails to specify whether length fields are in bytes or sectors
20:55 🔗 DFJustin have you gotten into old high sierra stuff at all
20:55 🔗 joepie91 ha
20:55 🔗 joepie91 no
20:55 🔗 joepie91 that's pre-spec
20:55 🔗 joepie91 so I imagine it to be worse
21:19 🔗 SketchCow It's worse
21:20 🔗 SketchCow Making a rough master is super hard. Most of the time people did it to DLT tapes
21:20 🔗 SketchCow Or tapes
21:56 🔗 dashcloud here's a tool that supposedly lets you make audio cd masters: http://ddp.andreasruge.de/
21:57 🔗 godane i only think cds at the time was like a way to do a full backup of bbs servers
21:57 🔗 godane or servers in general
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23:39 🔗 SketchCow No, but good thoughts
23:49 🔗 SketchCow CD-ROMs had huge initial uses as distribution methods for government and libraries for reference materials
23:49 🔗 SketchCow It's really a complicated, crazy thing

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