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[12:56] *** Kksmkrn has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:57] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:57] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden [13:09] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:49] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Quit: left4dead) [15:14] *** Aranje has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:19] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Quit: Keyboard not found, press F1 to continue) [15:28] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [15:49] Happy Thanksgiving! [16:33] no [16:49] *** RKenshin has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:49] *** Kenshin has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:49] *** RKenshin is now known as Kenshin [18:06] *** Yoshimura has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:39] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:40] *** kristian_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:01] *** Phreaky has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:01] I'm here! [19:02] I keep trying to download that torrent, but I doubt anyone will ever seed it unfortunately. [19:02] *** signius has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:08] *** Aranje has quit IRC (Quit: Three sheets to the wind) [19:30] DTIC ADA040398: User's Manual for the NLINE Multiconductor Transmission-Line Computer Code. : https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA040398 [19:45] there is no global filename search for wayback, I agree that it would be very useful [19:47] if you do end up finding a copy, please upload it to the community audio area on archive.org [20:00] I will certainly do. [20:00] I'm going to compile some sorta collection of Swedish 00s internet culture. [20:00] Unfortunetly, a lot of the stuff I'm looking for was spread through filesharing networks. [20:00] A lot of it can be found on Youtube, but I like having the original files. [20:01] I've been able to get some pretty rare files through old torrents though. [20:06] Global filename search, or any search engine specifically for Wayback would be really useful for my work. [20:08] Phreaky: serious suggestion: check Limewire, WinMX, etc.? [20:09] Don't those work pretty much like Bittorrent, making pretty much everything dead at this point? [20:09] Phreaky: no, they use shared folders [20:09] so it's very likely that somebody just shared their "music" folder [20:09] and has it hidden in the depths of that somewhere [20:09] if nobody has it, it won't even show up [20:10] Intriguing... [20:10] So, how do I get this to work? [20:10] Phreaky: it's often a decent place to look for long-dead files [20:10] :p [20:10] It says on Wikipedia that it used the Gnutella network, can I use any Gnutella client then? [20:10] Phreaky: grab a "previous-generation" P2P client of choice, install it, see if anything shows up [20:10] I think so? not sure how Limewire worked exacftly [20:10] I know that WinMX has its own network [20:11] it's probably still alive despite being shut down a decade ago [20:11] community patched the client to keep it running [20:11] Any way you can point me? [20:11] I run GNU/Linux. [20:11] Phreaky: ah, that will be difficult then. best bet is try to use WINE or alternatively a VM [20:11] Oh, Frostwire exists. [20:11] most older P2P clients were Windows-only [20:12] Well, were can I get the patched client? [20:12] Or is there anyone here who already has it running that could scan the network for me? [20:12] Phreaky: for WinMX, https://www.winmxworld.com/ [20:12] I don't have any P2P clients running at the moment [20:12] :p [20:12] Anyone who has Limewire running? [20:12] interesting [20:13] seems ourmx is finally getting work done [20:13] it's slightly fascinating how the community is developing a new client... [20:13] after having been officially shut down over a decade ago by RIAA etc... [20:13] :P [20:14] I'll try using a regular Gnutella client. [20:21] Hmm, can't find anything there. :( [20:25] I would totally run Limewire on a virtual machine, but I'm on my laptop right now, so I just don't feel like doing it. [20:25] Asking again, is there anyone on this channel that has Limewire running somewhere? [20:30] haven't in years, sorry [20:34] Aww.... [20:37] shit, you know, I hate when sites do this http://www.techu.me/2013/06/winners-of-the-2013-techu-me-appjam/ [20:37] (it's an under construction page, all the old content is disappeared) [20:37] Fortunately that one is on wayback [20:41] so i just had dinner [20:41] stuffed [20:56] Is it a bad idea to buy a Western Digital 3TB external drive? [20:58] you can get a 4tb for $10 more [20:59] The one I found is $68 [20:59] ok then [20:59] also i think the 4tb is $110 online [20:59] but $130 in store [21:00] I'm kinda reluctant to get it because I've heard bad things about WD and 3tb hard drives [21:01] i don't have 3tb drives from wd [21:01] not recent ones anyways [21:03] Actually, it's the Seagate ones that are apparently really bad [21:03] http://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-4-tb-hard-drives-and-skip-the-3-tb-o-1680887763 [21:03] hook54321: store-bought external HDDs will basically contain whatever the manufacturer had laying around at the time [21:04] don't rely on reviews because the disk model may very well change month-to-month [21:04] But it's still going to actually be a WD drive inside, right? [21:04] hook54321: maybe, maybe not. [21:05] and it may be a Green, or a Red, or whatever else they had cheap at the time [21:06] Green? Red? [21:07] http://blog.usro.net/wd-hdd-colors-difference/ [21:11] ah [21:11] hook54321: Kaz: note, Blue no longer really exists [21:12] they're effectively just Greens [21:12] yeah, just the first search result to give him an idea [21:12] I only buy reds anyway [21:12] Green is the thing people always complain about failing [21:12] :P [21:13] It says Greens are the ones that no longer exist [21:22] hook54321: yeah, they've been rebranded Blue I believe [21:23] but they're still Greens [21:23] internally [21:23] so all the online info about Blue drives is *not* applicable to current-day Blue drives [21:23] the info about Green drives, however, is [21:23] "real" Blue drives were never produced bigger than 1TB [21:23] I don't know why the fuck they did that with the branding [21:23] it's just confusing now [21:23] Frogging: trying to get rid of bad rep I guess [21:24] then rename the green to orange or something [21:24] rather than having some blues be "blue but actually green" [21:24] if the reason for the bad rep still exists it'll just transfer the bad rep to the blue brand :p [21:25] also they were each for different applications, and branded differently to reflect it, now that distinction is less clear [21:34] *** Boppen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 194 seconds) [21:35] *** Boppen has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:41] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:34] *** GE has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) [22:53] oh boy. Hadn't seen this list before http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/technology/your-entire-internet-history-to-be-viewable-by-psni-taxman-dwp-and-food-standards-agency-and-other-government-bodies-within-weeks-35242522.html [22:55] what the fuck [22:55] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:55] that's like worse than what the NSA does sometimes [22:55] afaik food standard agencies don't have access to NSA servers [22:56] hah [22:56] there's even organisations I didn't even know existed, like "Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority" [22:57] and I fail to see what the Dep for Transport neds everyone's history for.. [22:57] my local council cant collect a bin properly, let alone spy on people [22:59] you're fine [23:00] pretty shocking [23:00] it's now going to happen legally [23:01] and even more have access now :/ [23:01] what will the internet look like in 2030 [23:01] free browsing someones computer if you're the food agency [23:02] arkiver: The internet has been on a decline since like 2007 or something for different reasons though. [23:04] *** Phreaky has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)