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16:00 🔗 joepie91 what the actual fuck? https://twitter.com/OmanReagan/status/805792428795928576
16:00 🔗 joepie91 on a less incendiary note, recommended read concerning use and criticism of open-source software: https://medium.com/@thejameskyle/dear-javascript-7e14ffcae36c (cc yipdw?)
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18:44 🔗 yipdw joepie91: yeah, can attest to all of that
18:49 🔗 nicolas17 that seems to apply 100% to systemd
19:05 🔗 yipdw very OT, but if there's anyone in here who knows of a way to use socat (or whatever) to combine one ro and one rw serial port into a single rw serial port, that'd be cool
19:05 🔗 yipdw I'm working with a really bizarre board
19:07 🔗 yipdw maybe two socats
19:18 🔗 Frogging probably because systemd tries to be all things to all people, which never really works
19:33 🔗 yipdw systemd maintainership seems like what happens when you have a very vocal minority and the maintainer goes full-on fuck-all-yall
19:34 🔗 yipdw lose-lose dynamics
19:34 🔗 yipdw i'm sure at some level there's some people who really need to care about init systems. sometimes I do when I'm preparing system loadout. but that's like 1? 5? percent of everything I do and the other 90ish who cares
19:35 🔗 yipdw anyway, this is a thread that can't possibly go anywhere constructive
19:36 🔗 nicolas17 as opposed to the maintainer burning out from the criticism, as mentioned in that article
19:36 🔗 joepie91 (I'm refraining from comment for the same reason :P)
19:37 🔗 yipdw going into fuck-all-yall mode is a burnout manifestation in my experience
19:37 🔗 yipdw I've been there
19:37 🔗 yipdw it's not a very *good* way to manage burnout
19:38 🔗 yipdw like, you keep working because you have some other input (e.g. money) but your response to suggestions just becomes increasingly unhinged
19:49 🔗 SketchCow I just took a nice e-mail from someone who is suicidal and miserable and refuses to help with my projects anymore
19:49 🔗 SketchCow (not an archiveteam guy)
19:49 🔗 SketchCow Offering support, etc
19:49 🔗 SketchCow But it's quite obvious he has turned nearly 40 and has some other vision of the last 20 years
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20:05 🔗 Asparagir SketchCow: :-(
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20:23 🔗 godane so i'm bought 1 month access of the Rush Limbaugh website
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20:53 🔗 Kaz You saved �5.00 (1.54%) from original listing price �325.00
20:53 🔗 Kaz gotta keep an eye on them deals
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20:55 🔗 Frogging clap clap
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21:08 🔗 godane so looks like i can get 10 years worth of Rush Limbaugh shows
21:08 🔗 godane starts in june 2005
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22:34 🔗 hook54321 wget all of them
22:35 🔗 hook54321 @godane
22:35 🔗 HCross I have another "download this awkward video" challenge - https://www.supremecourt.uk/watch/uksc-2016-0196/051216-am.html this time
22:37 🔗 hook54321 So... my high school has blocked access to web.archive.org
22:37 🔗 hook54321 what should I do now?
22:38 🔗 HCross complain to your headmaster. Currently doing something similar with a UK phone network
22:43 🔗 hook54321 It's listed as a proxy on OpenDNS... Anyone know a way to get them to remove that?
22:44 🔗 hook54321 https://domain.opendns.com/web.archive.org
22:45 🔗 HCross email info@
22:45 🔗 godane hook54321: thats the plan
22:45 🔗 godane i also have a script to do the downloading of them
22:46 🔗 godane since i downloaded all of glenn beck show which has the same url types
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23:00 🔗 hook54321 Is it illegal for schools to block religious or political material?
23:09 🔗 Lord_Nigh not sure. i think for public schools probably and private schools no
23:14 🔗 hook54321 Could I argue that they can't block web.archive.org because it contains religious/political material that can't be found elsewhere?
23:15 🔗 Frogging I'd just set up a VPN at home or on one of my servers. that's what I did in high school :p
23:16 🔗 nicolas17 I think the only time I used a VPN was on my phone during a security conference :P
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23:18 🔗 Frogging well technically my setup was an SSH tunnel but yeah
23:20 🔗 Frogging I use such things on connections that have bothersome filters
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23:23 🔗 ae_g_i_s why would it be illegal for them to block anything? not arguing for blocking, but i can't think of a law that prevents it
23:24 🔗 ae_g_i_s constitution only says that the government can't pass a law that'd block them, afaik
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23:28 🔗 DFJustin schools run by the government are covered too, although courts allow more leeway in terms of restricting children and youth access to things
23:37 🔗 Frogging it's probably not a battle worth fighting in this case
23:37 🔗 DFJustin https://www.aclu.org/feature/dont-filter-me-web-content-filtering-schools
23:38 🔗 DFJustin filtering software often blocks archive.org because otherwise you can use the wayback machine to get around the filtering completely, so it's understandable if lame
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23:59 🔗 SketchCow It is absolutely legal for schools to block anything they want
23:59 🔗 SketchCow (US Schools)
23:59 🔗 SketchCow It has been determined in lots of legal cases (I actually got an A in this whole subject, one of my few) that public schools have a whole range of tools regarding censorship, lack of property rights, and so on, in the names of being wards of the kids.

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