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SketchCow |
I don't technically enforce my licenses |
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00:02
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SketchCow |
but it's been said that a lot of people are not alive when they crossed them |
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00:02
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SketchCow |
not... alive |
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00:16
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FalconK |
lately I've been enjoying the use of the Masonic Public License... nobody seems to get away with violating that one, somehow. |
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00:17
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FalconK |
also there are secret terms |
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xmc |
unfortunately nobody knows what the rules are though |
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xmc |
it's even worse than a contract of adhesion |
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FalconK |
it's like a contract of mortar and cement. |
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00:18
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FalconK |
you can nullify the license contract if you want to, but then you just used the work without a license :P |
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pizzaiolo |
FalconK: not very public then is it? |
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xmc |
MPL Masonic Private License |
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FalconK |
:) |
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divingk |
As for how to do it, |
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06:38
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divingk |
it being TV DXing, |
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06:38
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divingk |
it depends on the conditions. |
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06:39
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divingk |
Because normally, signals extend for about 100-200 miles from the source. |
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06:39
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divingk |
You can use a normal antenna, but there can also be preamps. |
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hook54321 |
Could someone use it how they regularly use a TV antenna? |
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hook54321 |
Just for casually watching tv |
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divingk |
Here's the thing/ |
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06:40
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divingk |
TV DXing is quite unpredictable. |
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06:41
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hook54321 |
What is it affected by? |
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divingk |
Any physical thing. |
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06:41
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divingk |
Where you live plays a big factor. |
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06:42
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divingk |
Water can help relay signals. |
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hook54321 |
What about rain? |
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divingk |
That makes the signal more erratic. |
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divingk |
That's the thing about TV DX. |
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hook54321 |
ah. so it probably wouldn't work very well in oregon i assume? |
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divingk |
Yes. |
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06:44
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divingk |
Most of the people who do it are along the coasts. |
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hook54321 |
So, are the channels they receive kinda random? |
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06:45
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divingk |
Yes. |
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06:45
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hook54321 |
Since it's OTA, would it be legal to live stream it publicly online? |
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06:46
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divingk |
Maybe, maybe not. |
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hook54321 |
What do you mean? |
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divingk |
Most of the people who do it don't. |
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hook54321 |
why? |
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divingk |
I haven't seen people stream it. |
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divingk |
Mainly because they don't know where to stream. |
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divingk |
And the signals themselves are usually of copyrighted material. |
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divingk |
Short clips though. |
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hook54321 |
But it's OTA |
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divingk |
Either that or local programming. |
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divingk |
True. |
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divingk |
But companies can be picky, though you're more than welcome to try. |
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hook54321 |
Could someone theoretically create a program that links together footage from a large group of TV DX-ers and creates a mostly complete coverage that people could then stream live |
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hook54321 |
Like, consistent for each channel |
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divingk |
Probably. |
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divingk |
But it would be a very niche thing. |
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hook54321 |
why? |
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FalconK |
wasn't there a campaign at one point to tell people that they were not allowed to record broadcast TV on their VCRs? |
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divingk |
FalconK: Not that many people payed attention |
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divingk |
or were prosecuted. |
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06:52
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divingk |
It's one thing to record broadcasts, but another to sell those without permission. |
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hook54321 |
What about that one person that has the only known copy of the first edition of that one sports thing? |
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06:53
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divingk |
True, that would be worth something. |
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06:54
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hook54321 |
But he's not allowed to sell it |
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06:55
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hook54321 |
Is there a TV DX related IRC channel? |
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divingk |
There's a site all about it. www.wtfda.org/ |
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06:56
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divingk |
And yes, there is an IRC channel. |
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divingk |
"We do IRC chat on Tuesdays and Fridays at 10:00 PM (US Eastern Time, or GMT-5 hours). The network is ICQnet, the channel is #dx, and the server is irc.icq.com port 6668. " |
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divingk |
There's also a forum, but no one has posted there in a long time. |
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hook54321 |
The irc server doesn't seem to work |
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divingk |
Yeah... |
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divingk |
the page hasn't been updated in a long time. |
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divingk |
And I couldn't find much else. |
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divingk |
It's possible there is one, but really obscure. |
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FalconK |
I suspect it is rather hard to recieve DVB via DX |
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hook54321 |
I can |
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Frogging |
scheduled IRC chats? that's a new one |
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Frogging |
:p |
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hook54321 |
I can |
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hook54321 |
agh |
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hook54321 |
I can't seem to find out anything about ICQnet |
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FalconK |
it used to be AM with subcarriers plus FM audio, but I believe DVB is some kind of QAM |
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07:03
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FalconK |
so good for you; however, I feel as though the usable range has gone down |
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FalconK |
not that I have watched TV in a while... |
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FalconK |
sure is nice to have all that bandwidth free up so people stop trying to carve space out of the amateur service :) |
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07:04
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divingk |
That's part of the reason why digital TV became a thing. |
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hook54321 |
divingk: What does VUD stand for? |
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07:12
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divingk |
Where are you seeing this? |
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07:12
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divingk |
Oh. |
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07:12
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divingk |
VUD is short for VHF/UHF DX. |
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07:13
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hook54321 |
what's that? |
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07:13
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divingk |
Basically, getting distant receptions from either VHF or UHF stations. |
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07:13
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divingk |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_frequency |
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07:13
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divingk |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_frequency |
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07:14
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hook54321 |
"The VUD Forum is located in the Members-Only Forum. You need to be registered and a WTFDA member to access this forum. ***The JANUARY 2017 VUD is now available.***" |
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hook54321 |
What exactly do they mean it's available? |
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07:15
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divingk |
A listing of stations that can be received via DXing is available. |
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07:18
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divingk |
Probably only available to forum members. |
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godane |
SketchCow: so what happened with the Tape documentary? |
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godane |
i hope all interviews for that will just be released on to IA so we can see at least some interviews you have done for that |
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godane |
so i'm fixing a 18 dtic items that had a 302 Found as the title |
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godane |
so i got Disney Infinity yesterday |
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godane |
it was $10 for starter kit |
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godane |
and $2 per a 'toy' cause there were trying to get rid of them |
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divingk |
Not bad. |
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pizzaiolo |
InternetArchiveBot is love: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Free_software&diff=758418025 |
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godane |
so i'm trying to download a qqdl:// url |
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godane |
but when i convert it to http i get http://192.168.1.233/weibo//$file type url |
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godane |
so got news |
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godane |
*good news |
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godane |
i can brute force a grab of eztv.ag |
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godane |
all i had to do was eztv.ag/ep/$number/a/ with a --content-disposition command to get the urls |
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godane |
with the /a/ will get you nothing |
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arkiver |
godane: going to grab it as WARCs too? |
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godane |
thats the plan |
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arkiver |
:D |
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godane |
i'm uploading the first 10k of eztv.ag |
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godane |
i will have 17 items at about 10k ids a piece |
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xmc |
Jonimus: no, i hate all forum administrators. they all think they are kings, when they are in actuality custodians |
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Jonimus |
I made sure you got the tifreakware dump I got a while back correct? |
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FalconK |
there's some theorem about forum administrators whereby acting like a king is the only way to have a successful forum ;) |
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Jonimus |
I could likely convince Kerm to get you the UTI DB as well if you didn't get a copy. |
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Jonimus |
xmc: and me and Tari do try to keep Kerm in check, but you can bet how that goes. |
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yipdw |
waiting for the Magna Carta for forum administrators |
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xmc |
Jonimus: i did not receive a copy of the uti database |
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Jonimus |
I can see if we can get the archiveteam or similar a copy, I'm not sure what Kerm agreed to when they gave it to him. |
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xmc |
ok |
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xmc |
:) |
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xmc |
still don't like forum owners acting like they own the whole forum |
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FalconK |
apparently I eat lunch at 1600h now |
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rocode |
Tell me about it. I have a long running (4 week) grab going right now because the forum admin of a semi-popular creative writing forum decided the best way to "deal" with him going to college was to cut off all support and hosting accounts instead of transferring it to someone. |
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rocode |
11k users |
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xmc |
seems reasonable |
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Jonimus |
Well with the current setup I know that if kerm went crazy we could spin up a copy basically instantly, Tari's made it completely declarative. |
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rocode |
Eventually I am going to need to figure out how to set up archivebot instead of manually running multiple grab-site VPSs. |
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FalconK |
you're welcome to use the existing capacity |
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FalconK |
my servers can handle 40 jobs, let alone all the rest |
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FalconK |
(of course we could still use more) |
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Jonimus |
xmc: anyways, I'll prod kerm again about UTI, its been long enough that be might be more willing to do stuff with it. |
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rocode |
Speaking of, grab-site produces two WARC files, one of the site and one called "meta", do I upload both to ia? |
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FalconK |
yes |
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