#archiveteam-bs 2017-05-23,Tue

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00:00 🔗 wp494 here's a funny story about ITT Tech and Office 365: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/22/bankrupt_school_itt_cloud_data_wiped/
00:01 🔗 Odd0002 wait ITT Tech is bankrupt?
00:02 🔗 Odd0002 there were so many ads on TV for that place over the last few years...
00:02 🔗 Odd0002 at least I don't have to watch them anymore
00:05 🔗 wp494 Odd0002: yeah they went bankrupt a little while ago
00:05 🔗 wp494 and many people collectively said good riddance
00:10 🔗 Odd0002 ah
00:10 🔗 Odd0002 wow I just found a bunch of old CDs in my basement
00:10 🔗 Odd0002 is there a tutorial on how to best rip them to upload to archive?
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00:17 🔗 Odd0002 or, how do I add screenshots to other user's uploads? I can scan the front of the CD for https://archive.org/details/Star_Wars_-_Dark_Forces_1994_LucasArts__CDD6287 but I don't want to add another entry
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00:22 🔗 powerKitt Hiya
00:23 🔗 Odd0002 hi
00:23 🔗 powerKitt The dashboard for my warrior has said that it's "beginning work on a project" for a while but it doesn't seem to actually be doing anything
00:23 🔗 powerKitt I'm gonna restart it
00:25 🔗 wp494 powerKitt: GLaDOS fixed an issue where people had that project stall on that last night
00:25 🔗 Odd0002 it seemed to do that for me as well for some specific projects
00:25 🔗 wp494 so def. do restart
00:25 🔗 powerKitt Now it's working.
00:25 🔗 Odd0002 not now, just a few weeks ago
00:25 🔗 powerKitt Now I'm getting lots of glorious 503 errors
00:25 🔗 powerKitt Just like grandma Valve used to make
00:27 🔗 Odd0002 everyone seems to be
00:29 🔗 wp494 ^
00:29 🔗 wp494 that's just a fact of spuf's numbered days
00:31 🔗 Odd0002 wow, I found this on one of the CDs I have: https://pastebin.com/s0GNbtdz
00:32 🔗 Odd0002 "YEAR 2000 READINESS DISCLOSURE"
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01:01 🔗 Odd0002 Is there anything special I should do if I find for example the iso of the program shown in this demo video (https://archive.org/details/012438), or do I just upload it as the same name with a different file type?
01:01 🔗 Odd0002 err find the disk and make an ISO of it I mean
01:05 🔗 powerKitt You'll probably want to choose a more descriptive identifier, Odd0002.
01:05 🔗 powerKitt But yeah, just uploading it with name on the Disc would be fine.
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01:07 🔗 Odd0002 A more descriptive identifier? What do you mean by that? (I just found the CD in a stack of CDs and that's all the info I know about it, but I found an article about it: http://pbclub.pwcsite.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hometime_Weekend_Home_Projects)
01:11 🔗 powerKitt It's the bit after https://archive.org/details/
01:12 🔗 Odd0002 oh, URL-wise, ok
01:13 🔗 powerKitt But, yeah, go ahead and upload an ISO and CD scan. Worst thing that'll happen is no one noticing the item for a while.
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01:15 🔗 Odd0002 seems people are still selling the CD on eBay and amazon...
01:17 🔗 Odd0002 ah, time for the hardest part... choosing a screenname
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02:40 🔗 nightpool Q: does anyone know a program for twitch that grabs and replays VODs w/ synced chat?
02:40 🔗 nightpool a lot of streamers archive their stuff to youtube, but when you do that, chat can get lost
03:01 🔗 powerKitt https://github.com/PetterKraabol/Twitch-Chat-Downloader this grabs the chat, but I don't know about something that'll play it in synx.
03:01 🔗 powerKitt *sync.
03:01 🔗 powerKitt nightpool ^
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03:43 🔗 Lord_Nigh Somebody2: no updates on email to info@
03:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.transcend-info.com/Files/Driver/WIFISD_GPL_release_20131219.zip is the first problem link i found
03:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh technically transcend is violating the GPL by not having that file available
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04:15 🔗 hook54321 Do we have a warrior job for /r/the_donald ?
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04:57 🔗 n00b731 hello what this channel about?
04:57 🔗 pikhq Archive Team. We save your shit.
04:59 🔗 n00b731 this offtopic, no rules?
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10:57 🔗 ivan https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/6cr1bw/google_drive_appear_to_be_removing_accounts/
11:01 🔗 SmileyG i don't understand what i'm seeing
11:01 🔗 SmileyG it seems to be accounts breaking some tos
11:01 🔗 SmileyG because claiming to be a business or something
11:03 🔗 JAA Yeah, only eBay accounts seem to be affected, which have always been shady.
11:04 🔗 ivan someone says their legit education account got hit
11:04 🔗 ivan I'm paying them $50/month but I'm probably next in line anyway
11:05 🔗 JAA That's a Business account with 5 users?
11:06 🔗 JAA I doubt anything will happen to that anytime soon. They might start enforcing the 1 TB limit for accounts with less than five users though.
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14:05 🔗 JAA Why are dynamic websites such a PITA to archive? :-(
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14:08 🔗 GLaDOS because 11,04HTML5!
14:13 🔗 JAA (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
14:32 🔗 JAA Does anyone have any idea how I can change a request from a wpull 1.2.3 Python hook script? I need to add some headers depending on the URL that's retrieved.
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15:22 🔗 JAA Hmm, can't find anything about that, so I'll monkeypatch wpull instead. \m/
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16:18 🔗 JAA ivan: FYI, the guy on Reddit stated that his official education account was disabled by mistake and is back online. The eBay accounts were nuked from orbit though.
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16:19 🔗 MrRadar These kind of games are why I'm probably going to switch to Backblaze B2 if Crashplan kills their personal plans
16:19 🔗 MrRadar Even though it will be more expensive (though, for the volume of data I'd like to keep online, not too much more)
16:25 🔗 JAA To be fair, only the "$10 for lifetime unlimited storage" accounts were killed, and it doesn't surprise me at all.
16:26 🔗 JAA The GSuite for Business accounts for $10 per month are still fine and unlimited.
16:27 🔗 MrRadar If it was just Google I'd agree, but with Amazon killing access to acd_cli and rclone and Crashplan's rumored removal of their personal plans I don't trust anyone advertising "unlimited" storage
16:27 🔗 MrRadar With B2 you're charged by the GB so someone must have determined that the rate they're offering is sustainable
16:28 🔗 JAA Yeah, "unlimited" only works out if the average user doesn't use much storage.
16:28 🔗 MrRadar With B2 I can also use rclone which means I'm not tied down by any proprietary client (I *hate* the current Crashplan client and it doesn't seem like anyone else supports Linux very well)
16:29 🔗 MrRadar (Okay maybe "hate" is too strong a word, but its operation is just too opaque for my tastes)
16:29 🔗 JAA I don't even consider using any services which don't let me use my own software.
16:30 🔗 JAA By the way, Online.net C14 is another cheap per-GB storage option.
16:31 🔗 MrRadar Thanks, I didn't know Online.net offered a storage service
16:32 🔗 MrRadar And they're even cheaper than B2, with no download fees!
16:36 🔗 MrRadar Hmm... though they charge for transferring data to and from the long-term storage, which is effectively a upload/download fee...
16:39 🔗 JAA Yeah. :-/
16:44 🔗 JAA There's also Cloud Archive by OVH, same pricing as C14 (2€/TB-month + 10€/TB in or out).
16:45 🔗 JAA On C14, there's a separate service which lets you avoid the in/out fees but is more expensive (5€/TB-month).
17:06 🔗 Frogging unlimited is only unlimited until you actually use it
17:06 🔗 Frogging :p
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17:37 🔗 MrRadar Wow, I looked into C14 some more and their "operation" fee is even more BS than I realized. When you retrieve your data you need to store it back with both operations incurrent separate charges
17:37 🔗 MrRadar And on top of that if you want to delete data they charge for *that* too!
17:37 🔗 MrRadar WTF
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17:57 🔗 MrRadar OVH's Cloud Archive service has much more transparent upload/download fees but I can hardly find any information about it, even on OVH's own website
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18:02 🔗 MrRadar The most useful information I've found, aside from the product page, is this blog post about it which describes some of the technical details: https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/news/articles/a2458.Public-Cloud-Archive-the-OVH-recipe-for-reducing-your-cold-data-storage-costs
18:12 🔗 username1 damn these are hard https://quiz.triplebyte.com/
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18:12 🔗 schbirid matrix bridge for efnet when!
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18:32 🔗 HCross2 SketchCow: I've got 25 computer shopper and other PC magazines here.. from 2010-14. Are they of any use to you or the archives?
18:33 🔗 HCross2 They are very UK focused though
18:41 🔗 HCross2 Just found a few more
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20:40 🔗 schbirid totally offtopic but is there anything apart from airbnb to find cheap 1-2 week stays in the us?
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21:14 🔗 JAA "I'm thinking of starting an archiving project for Airbnb & Co. What other, similar websites do you know?" ;-)
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21:45 🔗 dashcloud schbirid: there's Home Away (https://www.homeaway.com/) and VRBO (https://www.vrbo.com/), which seem to be two different brands of the same group
21:46 🔗 schbirid thanks!
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