#archiveteam-bs 2017-06-27,Tue

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kisspunchhere's allrecipes.com, I might get around to the other 4-5 english-language open recipe sites: rsync -l burn.za3k.com::recipes/
No WARC, sorry
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Somebody2kisspunch: please upload it to archive.org ! [05:50]
kisspunchSomebody2: I will once I finish recipe sites, I guess? Wasn't sure if archive.org wanted non-WARC crawls [06:01]
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JAAOh neat, Firefox will have a headless mode soon as well (version 55 or 56, i.e. it should hit the release in the next three months). Could be interesting for archival. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1338004 (Cc Sanqui) [15:57]
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SanquiJAA: as much as I love Firefox, I'd rather use the browser that has the most market share for archiving [16:01]
JAASanqui: I'm not sure it matters that much. I mean, I didn't suggest IE/Edge... :-P
Either browser would be a massive improvement over wget/wpull.
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Sanquiyeah
but chrome will just be better supported (by websites; in code)
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godaneso i got all of tagesschau 20 clock for 1994 uploaded
i did find out that i was missing a episode from 1992
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odemgVR and linux games: http://archivisthings.eieidoh.net:8880/DataHoarder/ [17:01]
JAASanqui: [citation needed]
(I'm genuinely curious about that.)
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Somebody2kisspunch: archive.org wants everything they can get. non-WARC crawls (while less ideal) are absolutely welcome. [17:12]
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JAASanqui: I briefly compared the current versions of the two browsers at CanIUse ( https://caniuse.com/#compare=firefox+54,chrome+59 ), and I mostly saw unofficial and deprecated features supported by Chromium but not by Firefox. But in general, the feature sets are pretty close. It's probably more important to stay up-to-date with new browser versions (obviously crucial for security anyway, but also reg
arding new features) than which of the two you pick.
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Sanquiyeah, well, the feature set is actually totally irrelevant
fact is the vast majority of websites is made for chrome first
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JAABut if they have (virtually) the same features, then that doesn't matter...? [17:24]
greeniehey i just wanted to say thanks to you all for archiving Imzy. Its good to know that someone was able to do it, just wanted to say that its appreciated [17:26]
JAAWe're not talking "Does the website look exactly the same across browsers, down to the pixel?" but "Do both browsers retrieve the same data and display it similarly?". [17:26]
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JAAgreenie: Yeah, it's unfortunate that we couldn't get all of it, but at least we tried. :-) [17:27]
HarzileinJAA: i'm a bit puzzled by Sanqui's stress on 'the market leader' as well. Of course web shops I worked at considered the devs' chrome or chromium first, but otoh they clearly were not maliciously breaking things for, say, safari
greenie: it worked in the end? weren't you really pessimistic about the lack of speed?
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JAATilt API grab update: 44 hours; 1.37M URLs done, 4.44M queued; 425k users, 39k campaigns, and 982k misc URLs discovered [20:17]
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alembicgreenie: sincere thank you to you, lesley, and the rest of the team for being awesome about this :D [21:30]
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kisspunchSoni: https://mcversions.net [23:26]
Sonikisspunch: b1.7.3 doesn't have server jar [23:35]
kisspunchI don't run it, just had a link :P [23:39]
JAAA quick search on DuckDuckGo reveals several other links missing from that page. For example: https://launcher.mojang.com/mc/game/c0.0.11a/client/3a799f179b6dcac5f3a46846d687ebbd95856984/client.jar https://launcher.mojang.com/mc/game/15w43c/server/e514e7107639d2e8b285ceff5eaa114379dafba7/server.jar
Ah no, the first one's there.
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