#archiveteam-bs 2017-07-08,Sat

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00:15 🔗 godane looks like i uploaded more the last 2 months now: https://archive.org/details/@chris85?&and[]=addeddate:2017-07
00:16 🔗 godane now i just have to get up to 13k items this month to be greater then the last 3 months of items
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12:12 🔗 Harzilein hi
12:14 🔗 Harzilein is there a way to find out (from github itself) for a user that may have moved repos away to another user (say from a personal to a project account) which repos he has moved and where? or is it equivalent to a deleted repo for those purposes?
12:15 🔗 Harzilein this has some shortlink-like archiving implications for me, even if a redirect gets set up
12:16 🔗 Harzilein (also asked in freenode #github)
12:38 🔗 JAA As in, you want to find all repositories originally created by user X but now moved to some other user or organisation? I don't think that's possible, but don't quote me on it.
12:41 🔗 JAA But if you have e.g. a list of repositories and want to check whether they were moved, then you can do that. The old link will redirect to the new repository, and the API will work as well.
12:42 🔗 JAA But only as long as the repository was actually moved, not deleted and recreated (obviously), and as long as the original user doesn't create a new repository with the same name.
12:42 🔗 JAA This applies to repository renames as well, by the way.
12:42 🔗 JAA I'm not sure what happens if a repository is moved twice.
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13:59 🔗 Harzilein JAA: it seems not possible alright
14:00 🔗 Harzilein next thing (thought not strictly archiving related) is that they have an undocumented way to scrape the branches that contain a commit... but no way to scrape the same for tags, grrrr
14:00 🔗 Harzilein (this is about huge repos, naturally ;)
14:01 🔗 Harzilein for the moving archives i just resolved to using the documented moves, then checking for every repo on the target account if there is a redirection on the original account, in case they left something undocumented
14:02 🔗 Harzilein i think renaming the repos while moving might introduce the "moved twice" scenario and i think it won't redirect twice
14:04 🔗 Harzilein i might scrape wayback pages of the repos too, that's basically what i set out to do anyway...
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15:08 🔗 dashcloud JAA Harzilein : if this ever comes online, it'll be what you're looking for: https://the-code-archive.launchrock.com/
15:10 🔗 HCross2 Anyone here with servers in Psychz LA?
15:21 🔗 arkiver icedice: https://github.com/webrecorder/warcio
15:21 🔗 icedice Thanks
15:33 🔗 odemg ia upload leveraged by tubeup timesout almost instantly when uploading a small video, what the fuck
15:34 🔗 odemg output: https://pastebin.com/raw/iJdMyKGc
15:35 🔗 odemg this is so fucking annoying as tubeup does everything nicely, metadata and all and saves a lot of time, ia is always complaining about something
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16:11 🔗 pie_ you guys know any good ocr software? im scanning in a bunch of documents and it would be nice if they were searchable
16:11 🔗 pie_ or perhaps some other place i can ask?
16:13 🔗 JAA odemg: "Uploading /root/[...]" *twitch*
16:15 🔗 odemg JAA, droplet I fired up solely to upload those videos, was to be destroyed moments later.
16:21 🔗 dashcloud pie_: if you're going to pay for it, Nuance & ABBYY make fantastic OCR software, and if you're going to upload to IA, you get your stuff OCR'd as part of the process
16:21 🔗 pie_ dashcloud, this is just personal stuf
16:24 🔗 dashcloud then buy a package from one of those companies- they make amazing products. If you have a scanner software package, you may already have something as part of that.
16:24 🔗 pie_ ok thanks ill check them out
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17:55 🔗 godane looks like my download of Sport Illustrated in 1966 go a bit screwed up
17:55 🔗 godane 1966-10 issues have to be redownloaded cause there incomplete
17:56 🔗 godane i think 1966-09-19 is also incomplete too
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18:03 🔗 godane whats funny is i did make looks to check for stuff like this
18:09 🔗 godane 1962-12-10 is also incomplete
18:10 🔗 godane 1963-06-17 is also incomplete
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18:15 🔗 godane i'm reuploading 1966-09-19 and 1966-09-26 issues
18:15 🔗 Somebody2 Anyone happen to have recommendations for a Windows program suitable for a non-technical user that can convert FLAC files into MP3s?
18:34 🔗 Harzilein Somebody2: there was one in the portableapps collection that worked quite nicely... it had its own ui interface library though, so if your nontechnical user gets scared by such things it might not be the best choice
18:34 🔗 Harzilein Somebody2: let me look it up
18:35 🔗 Harzilein Somebody2: https://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/freac_portable
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18:36 🔗 Harzilein Somebody2: http://www.freac.org/images/screenshots/freac-1.0.x-en.png
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19:49 🔗 JAA Does anyone of you know a way to get from a Twitter image link (pbs.twimg.com/...) to the corresponding tweet?
19:56 🔗 Somebody2 Harzilein: thanks!
20:02 🔗 icedice pie_: ABBYY FineReader seems to be the most well-liked OCR software: https://alternativeto.net/software/abbyy-finereader/
20:03 🔗 icedice When it comes to free alternatives Tesseract seems pretty well-liked, and it's open source
20:05 🔗 JAA Oh nice, I just noticed that you can &sort=-lastfiledate on IA, which lists the items ordered by when the newest file in each item was uploaded. Interestingly, this isn't exposed on the interface as far as I can see.
20:08 🔗 JAA ... and it only works on search.php, not on advancedsearch.php.
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20:18 🔗 icedice Looks like ABBYY FineReader is better than Nuance OmniPage: http://www.scanstore.com/Document_Management_Solutions/Scanning_FAQ.asp?faqid=6
20:18 🔗 icedice http://www.simpleocr.com/Compare-OCR-Software
20:32 🔗 icedice Somebody2: If you really want it to MP3 then XRECODE is probably the best option
20:33 🔗 icedice I'd recommend AAC though
20:33 🔗 icedice Better quality, smaller filesize, and universal support
20:34 🔗 icedice If you want to try AAC then I'd go with either a GUI to eac3to or XRECODE
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21:06 🔗 icedice The developers of the MP3 format even announced that it's dead a while ago and encouraged people to switch to modern formats like AAC
21:11 🔗 pikhq That's a misreading of the state of affairs.
21:12 🔗 pikhq They announced their patent licensing program was dead.
21:12 🔗 pikhq Which it is, because the patent term expired.
21:13 🔗 pikhq It's not the best format anymore, because others are just superior, but in some cases MP3 remains a valid choice.
21:30 🔗 joepie91 icedice: "The developers of the MP3 format even announced that it's dead" was a clever marketing move to mitigate their business risk of their patents expiring.
21:31 🔗 joepie91 icedice: MP3 is not any more "dead" than it was a year ago, but since the patents have now expired and the creators can no longer turn a profit from licenses, they REALLY REALLY want you to use one of their newer formats that they *do* still hold non-expired patents to.
21:31 🔗 joepie91 icedice: therefore, they publicly proclaimed MP3 to be "dead" to scare people into those newer formats.
21:31 🔗 joepie91 it's a PR game, nothing more.
21:32 🔗 icedice I know that it doesn't matter practically
21:32 🔗 icedice I doubt that the format has seen any development for ages
21:32 🔗 joepie91 (and I'm sad that so many media outlets and random people got tricked by that)
21:32 🔗 joepie91 naturally not, as is the case for most all standardized formats
21:32 🔗 icedice And manufacturers and developers are not going to stop supporting it
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21:32 🔗 joepie91 icedice: and its relative non-efficiency can be a valid reason to use something else, I'm just pointing out that "the creators said that MP3 is dead" is 100% completely irrelevant to any real-world decisions
21:33 🔗 icedice I just thought it was saying something that they admit that their format is pretty useless now
21:33 🔗 joepie91 and not worth mentioning
21:33 🔗 joepie91 no, they don't
21:33 🔗 joepie91 that is the point
21:33 🔗 icedice But I see what you're saying
21:33 🔗 joepie91 they don't "admit that their format is pretty useless now"
21:33 🔗 joepie91 they're just trying to scare you into a new license.
21:33 🔗 icedice outdated is a better word
21:33 🔗 joepie91 no, it's not.
21:33 🔗 icedice AAC > MP3 either way
21:33 🔗 joepie91 again, this has nothing to do with outdated or useless or whatever else
21:33 🔗 joepie91 the ONLY thing this has to do with, is the patents expiring and them wanting you to get a new license for a different format.
21:34 🔗 joepie91 precisely zero things have changed from a technical perspective
21:34 🔗 joepie91 "they said it's dead" is 100% irrelevant information.
21:34 🔗 joepie91 it's marketing spin.
21:35 🔗 icedice Ok
21:35 🔗 joepie91 icedice: and like I said, yes, the non-efficiency can be a valid reason to use something else. but let's not pander to fraunhofer's sketchy marketing tactics by repeating their "MP3 is dead" bullshit as if it has any real-world merit or truth to it whatsoever :)
21:35 🔗 joepie91 on which note: look at Opus instead if you want a good audio compression format
21:36 🔗 joepie91 icedice: ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_(audio_format)
21:36 🔗 joepie91 "Opus replaces both Vorbis and Speex for new applications, and several blind listening tests have ranked it higher-quality than any other standard audio format at any given bitrate until transparency is reached, including MP3, AAC, and HE-AAC."
21:36 🔗 joepie91 it's also an open format and not patent-encumbered.
21:36 🔗 icedice I'm just tired of shittily compressed files
21:37 🔗 Frogging I buy all my music on either CDs or FLACs
21:37 🔗 Frogging nowadays
21:38 🔗 icedice It'll probably take a while before Opus is universally supported though
21:38 🔗 joepie91 icedice: that's no different for anything not-MP3, though. there are still plenty of portable music players in circulation that only do eg. MP3 and APE
21:39 🔗 joepie91 and if you're playing your music on a reasonably generic device (phone, console, computer, whatever) then you can just grab an arbitrary player that does Opus
21:39 🔗 icedice Nobody uses MP3 players anymor though
21:39 🔗 joepie91 you're definitely wrong there :)
21:39 🔗 icedice The last time I saw an MP3 player was probably in elementary school or high school
21:39 🔗 joepie91 okay, but "the last time I saw X" is different from "nobody uses X"
21:40 🔗 icedice ok
21:40 🔗 joepie91 small, portable MP3 players are still popular for eg. running
21:40 🔗 icedice And things are different in Finland
21:40 🔗 joepie91 since they're lightweight, inexpensive and therefore not a big deal if you drop it into a puddle
21:40 🔗 icedice People here just use their phones and drain all of their battery
21:41 🔗 icedice It would be nice if FLIF would be widely adopted though
21:41 🔗 icedice (It's an image format)
21:41 🔗 joepie91 my point being: either you use a generic device and you can just install an Opus player, or you're using an MP3 player that doesn't support any of the newer formats *anyway*
21:41 🔗 joepie91 so device support is not really a concern
21:41 🔗 joepie91 when talking about Opus
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21:52 🔗 t2t2 Android <7 natively plays opus if you trick it into thinking it's a webm (so file.opus.webm is fine)
21:52 🔗 Frogging I used to use an MP3 player to test some analog circuit designs when I played with that stuff
21:52 🔗 Frogging Then one time the battery was dead and I used my iPad
21:52 🔗 Frogging that was the time the wiring was wrong and I blew the iPad's DAC -_-
21:54 🔗 joepie91 heh
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