#archiveteam-bs 2017-08-03,Thu

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bsmith093https://youtu.be/0AwELBYPqiE?t=13m6s that background music 13:05-14:22, i know that's a stock track, i just can't find it anywhere, i looked through all of kevin mcloud's stuff, and it's not there [02:28]
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bsmith093christ, aparently theres an entire library of stock music for youtube stuff, the song i wanted is called "days are long" by slient partner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkoJJIZezD4
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godanelooks like archive.org is down [06:25]
Aoedeanother power outage? :/ [06:37]
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godanehttps://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/892990771544023040 [06:52]
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hook54321I just saw that tweet :/ [07:07]
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hook54321I used it as an opportunity to advertise ArchiveTeam: https://twitter.com/TyHerbt/status/893008813707542528
wait, can people not see my replies to tweets if my tweets are protected?
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hook54321eh. I'll just temporarily unprotect my tweets
https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/893010345249329152
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Sometime after 21 July SoundCloud stopped taking new Dev App Application thingies [07:55]
kittymeowJonimus : the problem is that kind of thing is completely impractical to encourage people to use, on the usability scale it's non existent for most people, and since it's impractical for only people that use linux to be archiving important pages on the internet, it's a bit shortsighted, focus on the programming instead of the outcome [07:56]
hook54321But the outcome is what we get from the program...
The programming determines the outcome
Also, you can therotically run ArchiveBot on Windows 10 through the Ubuntu thing that was added.
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Mateon1hook54321: The ubuntu subsystem on windows is really incomplete, most software I tried didn't work because of missing syscalls
So I doubt it could work, but somebody would need to test
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hook54321Mateon1: I tried using ArchiveBot on there, it had some issues, I had to turn something off an archivebot feature to get it to work, so it probably is possible.
I grabbed more than 50 gigs of stuff with it.
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So I see that the Internet Archive has stopped paying attention to robots.txt. Which may be temporary, so take advantage of this now and save stuff on archive.is [08:28]
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Actually, only on some websites, Facebook being one of them. [08:47]
godanelooks like i maybe able to grab some tokyoeye 2020 episodes that are not on NHK website
the videos that NHK World host are on ooyala.com
so if there was a page grab in wayback i maybe grab it
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hook54321I think there's a possiblity they may have just started ignoring facebook's robots.txt file... [08:51]
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JAAhook54321: Re your tweet: ArchiveBot with a full queue won't do anything if IA (specifically, FOS) is down since all finished jobs will be blocked until IA comes back up.
Also, *another* power outage? Jesus.
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hook54321ah true
I'm surprised this guy isn't part of ArchiveTeam. https://twitter.com/xor
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ivanhook54321: it's being ignored on other domains too
nice find, too bad I don't have a list of things to liberate
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SketchCowhook54321: Parker and I are pals [13:31]
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Jonimushook54321: I think you are missing the point of Tari's little project, first it wasn't considered complete, two I think his use case and what you are looking for are completely different things, i pointed it out because it seemed related to what you wanted but obviously it doesn't quite fit the bill for you. [14:01]
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atrocityfor purely archiving needs, are the seagate archive drives the best bang for the buck?
archiving needs meaning write once read many
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schbiriddepends on your usecase. tape might be even better but i see nothing wrong with the archive drives [16:09]
atrocitytapes out, lol. need cheap and high availability (mainly hdd) [16:10]
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hook54321Aren't tapes significantly cheaper than hdds though? [16:52]
Froggingdrives aren't cheap, and tapes aren't high availability [16:57]
zinohook54321: At large scale tape is still cheaper for some things. At low volumes the price for LTO drives will dominate, at medium the price for robots gets you. [16:57]
Froggingthe fixed costs are large, in other words [16:59]
zinoYea. The running costs for people to handle tape installations and the expensive software licenses are not to sneeze at either. [17:00]
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hook54321zino: Are there open source/free software alternatives? [17:41]
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Kazhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40820837
hrm
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atrocitywell, this is all for me and my personal archiving needs, not for a business or org or anything [18:07]
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hook54321Would it be frowned upon to sit in a community college library with a laptop and start ripping stuff from CDs?
*CDs/DVDs
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arkivermaybe
I guess you could hide it
and not sit with you screen facing a camera
your*
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hook54321yeah, but won't they still see me grabbing discs, putting them in, and then a few minutes later taking them out? [18:45]
arkiveryeah [18:46]
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schbirid2hook54321: in some countries that might even be allowed i think [19:01]
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hook54321schbirid2: I'm assuming the US isn't one of them :P [19:02]
schbirid2:D [19:02]
hook54321I mean, would they even care? I don't see a reason for them to personally care. [19:13]
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zinohook54321: If you only want to plainly put files on tape you can get away with something like Bacula. But that is not fun to work with.
When you get into the volumes where tape really makes sense you also often want more features. Sadly the commercial software packages also sucks ass, but they implement more stuff.
Dealing with backups (or tape really) is boring and thankless, so it's hard to get people enthusiastic about improving the software.
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xmchook54321: i have done this in seattle [19:19]
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hook54321xmc: Did they know that you were doing it or care? [19:22]
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HCross2hook54321: I used to do it in school - take out a disk one lunch, return it the next after ripping [19:54]
hook54321I don't really want to check them out though :/ [19:55]
bsmith093HCross2: i have a relative that works in a large library. they know damn well people do that, but they'd probably prefer you didn;t actually do it in front of them.
take out a bunch, return them the next day, repeat.
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hook54321bsmith093: what if i'm not sitting right in front of their desk? :P [20:08]
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bsmith093they probably won;t care [20:20]
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hook54321Is it just me or is Google Voice not working right now? Won't let me send or receive messages. [20:54]
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hook54321nvm. just started working again. [20:55]
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odemgTorrent Resurection: Calibre Science Fiction Archive 1930s-2000s presented in the calibre database format. These torrents have been around for at least 3 years now are are dying off, I'm giving 60MB/s to get them seeded again, I could use your help if you can afford the space and bandwidth to do so add these torrents to your client, thanks. http://dheval.eieidoh.net:8880/DataHoarder/tmp_requests/CALIBRE_SFF/ [21:32]
fazeekatotal size? [21:33]
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bsmith093580+~gb [23:06]
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Amigatariarkiver: If the Googlebot trick doesn't work, it would be pretty sucky.
I'm sure most pics are behind the login wall.
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hook54321for which site? [23:39]
AmigatariDayviews.
Me and arkiver talked about it on the other channel
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hook54321Can you view the pics through google cache? [23:47]
AmigatariWell, I'm sure you could actually, I just haven't tried it recently.
I'm pretty sure I've found pictures there through Google Images, and when I opened the actual site, I had to login before being able to see them.
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