#archiveteam-bs 2017-08-18,Fri

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00:32 🔗 godane i'm going after more koreanet-1
00:33 🔗 godane *koreanet-1 daegu news9 for 2011 to be exact
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01:21 🔗 DFJustin bluesoul: for 90s PC games are you talking floppy disks, cd-roms, installed zips, ... ?
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01:30 🔗 bluesoul DFJustin mostly CD-Roms
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01:31 🔗 bluesoul trying to scan everything as well but i don't really have an archival-quality scanner
01:31 🔗 bluesoul also having a heck of a time with securom on many of the discs, so when that comes up I'm just taking the contents and zipping them. i want to learn more about reversing/defeating securom
01:32 🔗 bluesoul might've been some other technology from securom, safedisc or some such
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01:44 🔗 wm_ i'd just use daemontools if it still exists
01:44 🔗 wm_ removes most protections, then gives an ISO
01:44 🔗 wm_ if you just zip/dump them with the protection enabled the content is - in most cases - useless
01:52 🔗 odemg bluesoul, dirty boy
01:52 🔗 bluesoul yeah i'm not thrilled with any solution i've come up with yet
01:53 🔗 bluesoul aside from my hack the planet shit
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01:55 🔗 hook54321 I found an amazing deal on a 10 TB hard drive (about $140 USD), but it'll only ship to Canada. 😦
01:55 🔗 Frogging I'm interested
01:55 🔗 Frogging :p
02:01 🔗 hook54321 anyone that's interested, message me.
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04:47 🔗 Somebody2 wm_: what do you mean "useless" -- is it completely random data, or what?
04:48 🔗 wm_ Somebody2: random broken blocks
04:48 🔗 wm_ depending on exact protection used
04:48 🔗 wm_ you basically - for some - dump an entirely broken disc
04:48 🔗 wm_ that the protection corrects on the fly usually
04:49 🔗 wm_ anydvd also had a game thing, company is slysoft
04:49 🔗 wm_ that works surely for any game, including recent and BD
04:49 🔗 wm_ daemontools and older should do securom and that crap fine
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05:08 🔗 Somebody2 wm_: thanks, good to know. So it would still have *some* of the data, just not enough to actually play the game.
05:08 🔗 wm_ possibly yea, some start and give you wrong gameplay (they were fun, have to admit)
05:09 🔗 wm_ some have the copy protection broken by default (C&C games, red alert 1,2,3) and some will not start or error
05:10 🔗 Somebody2 Would such a rip be fixable after the fact, if someone took it and *then* reversed the protection; or is there critical data left out by such a rip?
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05:20 🔗 wm_ not that i know, for some it might be though
05:20 🔗 wm_ but the tools you need are probably the same as to rip it correctly in the first place
05:21 🔗 Somebody2 Sure -- I'm not suggesting that people do it the wrong way; more trying to figure out what, if anything is *permanently* lost.
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07:23 🔗 schbirid wtf https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-project-defends-human-rights-racists-oppose
07:24 🔗 schbirid is there a word for doing things so you feel better about yourself?
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08:39 🔗 superkuh Virtue signaling is the modern term.
08:39 🔗 superkuh Tor project was infected with it a couple years back and jumped the shark with all the false rape sjw plays.
08:42 🔗 atluxity false?
08:43 🔗 superkuh As in, there was never any proof given or actual legal claims made.
08:43 🔗 superkuh Just a coordinates social media attack.
08:43 🔗 superkuh Er, coordinated.
08:43 🔗 atluxity so nobody has passed judgment that concludes it to be false then
08:43 🔗 superkuh Yes, that's true. But I hope you see the problem with that kind of thinking.
08:44 🔗 atluxity I see both sides :)
08:44 🔗 atluxity saying something is false is picking a side
08:44 🔗 superkuh JTRIG/COINTELPRO/etc in my opinion.
08:45 🔗 atluxity might be
08:45 🔗 atluxity I have more trust in the accusers than I do in the accused.
08:46 🔗 superkuh I guess they should've actually made a legal claim or provided evidence then.
08:54 🔗 atluxity I dont really care either way. If someone has been raped, but is unable to prove it, I am not willing to tell them to sit down and be quiet. There is not a 1:1 relation between criminal and convicts.
09:13 🔗 superkuh I heard you raped and killed a young girl in 1990.
09:14 🔗 superkuh I'm not saying it, and there's no proof, but we should consider that it plausible and act accordingly.
09:20 🔗 atluxity sure
09:21 🔗 atluxity thats actually a good example of a weak accusation, but you can maybe build on it
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13:11 🔗 Frogging civilized justice systems have a little something called the presumption of innocence
13:11 🔗 atluxity yes, thats justice systems
13:11 🔗 atluxity I am not a justice system
13:12 🔗 atluxity I can not convict anyone to suffer violence
13:12 🔗 atluxity but I can take input, form an opinion, and choose my actions appropriatly to suit my best interest
13:13 🔗 atluxity and so far, inputs have NOT shown that anyone not proven to be evil is a saint
13:14 🔗 atluxity in general, that is
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13:14 🔗 atluxity but yes, for a justice system it makes sense
13:27 🔗 JAA This is why smear campaigns work.
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14:15 🔗 godane did anyone back up the joystiq youtube channel?
14:16 🔗 godane i have found about 30gb of joystiq youtube channel on one my old drives
14:20 🔗 godane i will see about grabbing it since its still up
14:51 🔗 jspiros_ r/win 20
14:51 🔗 jspiros_ oops
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16:15 🔗 Lord_Nigh i see savedeo seems to be dead
16:16 🔗 Lord_Nigh were they one of the companies sued over "allowing ripping of copyrighted content from youtube"
16:16 🔗 Lord_Nigh site has been 500 error for about 2 weeks
16:16 🔗 Lord_Nigh and keepvid and other savedeo competitors seem to have jumped on this and started charging for conversions/ripping
16:31 🔗 bluesoul huh. rTorrent flatly refuses to start the eXoDOS torrent
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18:24 🔗 bsmith093 Lord_Nigh: damn i'm glad youtube-dl is a thing
18:58 🔗 godane i'm uploading This is my next Podcast by The Verge
18:58 🔗 godane name was change after 30 episodes to The VergeCast
18:59 🔗 godane i'm also uploading dtic docs
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20:40 🔗 midas damnit taylor swift.
20:41 🔗 midas she deleted all content on her social media.
20:41 🔗 midas website went dark etc.
20:44 🔗 Laverne 5
21:04 🔗 Frogging shit
21:08 🔗 xmc something tells me that it might have been archived already http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://taylorswift.com
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21:19 🔗 bluesoul zino, since it's still early, should i switch this to make a warc as well? i've never made one before
21:19 🔗 bluesoul can it stack with my existing flags?
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21:21 🔗 zino bluesoul: Not my area of expertise. I've never done warcs by manually invoking wget or wpull.
21:24 🔗 arkiver hi bluesoul what are you running at the moment?
21:24 🔗 bluesoul wget -mkEpnp
21:25 🔗 bluesoul i see this: https://www.petekeen.net/archiving-websites-with-wget as a reasonable set of choices as well
21:34 🔗 arkiver I think you can just add the option to create a WARC
21:34 🔗 arkiver maybe first do a test crawl, so we can test it first
21:35 🔗 arkiver but it's be good to leave the crawl you're currently running also running
21:35 🔗 arkiver never know when it might go offline
21:35 🔗 bluesoul yeah i think i'll run it on my vps
21:35 🔗 bluesoul one of em anyway
21:35 🔗 bluesoul and we'll see what it looks like
21:35 🔗 arkiver sounds good :)
21:38 🔗 bluesoul wget -mkEpnp --warc-file=dep --warc-cdx http://www.dep.ca
21:38 🔗 bluesoul we'll see what that does
21:39 🔗 arkiver yep
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21:40 🔗 * CatQuest waves at Lotheric
21:40 🔗 * Lotheric waves back
21:40 🔗 CatQuest ah I didn't know no waving was allowed in the other chan :)
21:41 🔗 CatQuest anway just wanted to say archiveteam is awesome <3
21:41 🔗 Lotheric I think the idea is to keep it uncluttered for requests (without off topic chatter)
21:42 🔗 CatQuest indeed.
21:42 🔗 CatQuest hahha reading the wikipage
21:42 🔗 CatQuest "archive time" :D
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22:26 🔗 schbirid2 use wpull, bluesoul!
22:26 🔗 schbirid2 so much better
22:27 🔗 bluesoul i'll look into it when this finished, thanks, what's better about it?
22:28 🔗 zino schbirid2: Maybe, but it's not without problems. After having downloaded 171G of a forum wpull looks like this:
22:28 🔗 zino PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22:28 🔗 zino 8692 archive+ 20 0 1.001t 137992 12144 R 80.1 1.7 6081:42 wpull
22:28 🔗 zino 8589 archive+ 20 0 1.001t 123900 12688 S 27.5 1.5 1902:20 wpull
22:28 🔗 schbirid2 yes but wget would have OOMed at 5GB ;)
22:29 🔗 schbirid2 bluesoul: url storage in a ondisk db instead of filling up your ram
22:29 🔗 schbirid2 concurrency
22:29 🔗 schbirid2 resumability
22:29 🔗 schbirid2 page-requisites can grab from external domains
22:29 🔗 schbirid2 etc etc
22:37 🔗 schbirid2 oh and sitemap usage, better link extractors
22:38 🔗 zino schbirid2,
22:38 🔗 zino schbirid2, Well I hope it's doing something with all that CPU. :)
22:38 🔗 schbirid2 it has some bugs and is unmaintained :(
22:39 🔗 schbirid2 for me it likes to get stuck on convert-links after the grab
22:43 🔗 ndiddy kind of related, does anyone know if it's illegal to buy a company's domain name if they let it expire
22:44 🔗 bluesoul ndiddy not illegal per se but ICANN can unilaterally give the domain back to the company
22:44 🔗 schbirid2 no but they might be able to force it back to them via trademark law or similar
22:44 🔗 bluesoul they handle such issues through the Uniform Dispute Resolution Process
22:44 🔗 bluesoul i worked for a registrar in a past life and got to see some of that stuff
22:44 🔗 ndiddy how long does that process generally take
22:44 🔗 bluesoul couple months
22:44 🔗 ndiddy also would the registrar refund my money in that case?
22:45 🔗 bluesoul they may but they're not required to
22:45 🔗 ndiddy cool
22:45 🔗 schbirid2 please buy yahoo.com
22:45 🔗 ndiddy oh yeah, is there a delay between when a domain name expires and when you can buy it
22:46 🔗 bluesoul yes
22:46 🔗 ndiddy looking at the whois registration date
22:46 🔗 bluesoul 6 weeks at least
22:46 🔗 xmc "redemption period"
22:46 🔗 bluesoul ^
22:46 🔗 ndiddy shit
22:46 🔗 ndiddy do any registrars do an "auto notify" thing
22:46 🔗 bluesoul this is the registrar's opportunity to extort the owners for money
22:46 🔗 bluesoul ndiddy snapnames
22:46 🔗 schbirid2 also be aware that you will have zero chance to compete manually against squatters grabbing expiring domains
22:47 🔗 zino ndiddy: There is a whole industry for trying to snipe expiring domain names.
22:47 🔗 bluesoul i was able to pluck a gem of a COM off of a godaddy closeout
22:47 🔗 bluesoul and a net i can't use :\
22:47 🔗 ndiddy guess my plan to make sunsoftgames.com a "you better release valis on virtual console" webpage won't come to fruition
22:48 🔗 bluesoul i now own catan.net but the settlers guys would sue the piss out of me if i did anything with it
22:48 🔗 Frogging zino: those people can burn :/
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