#archiveteam-bs 2017-09-15,Fri

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00:04 🔗 godane https://www.flickr.com/photos/52611635@N06/
00:04 🔗 godane the guys flickr pictures
00:04 🔗 godane with pictures of tapes
00:06 🔗 godane SketchCow: btw please send me tapes to help digitizing of them
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10:13 🔗 hook54321 Fyi, the maintainer of the Ublock repository (not ublock origin) has been deleting comments, issues, etc, asking about where the funds are going if there isn't any development going on. https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock
10:19 🔗 JAA Shall we grab https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock as well (without the code)?
10:19 🔗 JAA (Moved from #archivebot)
10:20 🔗 JAA Looks like the issues are still around, e.g. https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock/issues/1706
10:22 🔗 JAA Ah yeah, he deleted comments. Hmm
10:23 🔗 hook54321 one sec
10:24 🔗 hook54321 I'm holding down the end key on twitter
10:26 🔗 JAA Yeah, this isn't urgent, looks like most of the stuff happened two months ago anyway (including that ticket I linked).
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11:31 🔗 hook54321 finally
11:31 🔗 hook54321 It went from 4 hours ago, to 22 hours ago, to september 5th.
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11:50 🔗 hook54321 !w f3p6sgk7e3f2hxwn0hy1w3xcq
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13:55 🔗 JAA hook54321: You're not the only one getting temp-banned from bit.ly. I currently only get 403 replies from them on at least one machine.
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14:31 🔗 odemg SketchCow, We've got people saying things like https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/704h1g/saw_this_on_another_hoarding_site_first_there/dn0r7p6/ ..what's the status of ia/at getting these tapes? It'd be a shame to let some donut pick them up thinking he could digitise 24k tapes by himself :/ there's no coordination going on to I bet this guy is getting 100s of emails from people wasting his time and
14:31 🔗 odemg ours.
14:37 🔗 JAA odemg: http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2017-09-14,Thu&sel=301#l297
14:37 🔗 DFJustin https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/908432524128456704
14:38 🔗 odemg Thank fuck.
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15:38 🔗 Aoede jrwr: why are they rioting
15:38 🔗 jrwr So
15:39 🔗 jrwr The main headline is "Police Officer Murder Trail: NOT GUILTY"
15:39 🔗 jrwr in 2011 a black guy named Anthony Smith Killed after a care chase
15:39 🔗 jrwr car*
15:39 🔗 Aoede I see
15:40 🔗 jrwr so its a black lives matter protest
15:40 🔗 Aoede thanks for the info :-)
16:19 🔗 astrid fuckin
16:19 🔗 astrid why can't cops just like ... not kill people
16:20 🔗 astrid it doesn't seem that complicated. i don't kill people. never even once!
16:25 🔗 Frogging i killed a centipede yesterday
16:26 🔗 zino I choose to belive that the spider I washed down in the shower this morning is living a happy life with his alligator buddies.
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17:49 🔗 hook54321 I'm just gonna place this here, I don't have time to do anything with it right now. It's a list of x.vu URLs.
17:50 🔗 hook54321 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e6a10e4adad2db2c453366ecd07c7359
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18:33 🔗 dd0a13f37 What is archiveteam's position on archiving stuff obtained by questionable means? For example, would you accept scrapes done with hijacked accounts? AT presumably violates ToS frequently, but do you have any official "guidelines" on what to do/not do?
18:34 🔗 MrRadar For services that require accounts we generally sign up for one specifically for archiving if that's possible, or ask for people to donate accoutns if not
18:35 🔗 dd0a13f37 But for example paywalled content for #newsgrabber
18:36 🔗 MrRadar For most sites just browsing with cookies disabled is enough to bypass the paywall, so that's not an issue
18:36 🔗 dd0a13f37 Well, for some, but some others (svd.se for example) require you to be logged in to an account that in turn needs to be registered with valid and working payment info
18:37 🔗 MrRadar Those kind of cases I'm not sure about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:37 🔗 dd0a13f37 Also, there are complete .pdf archives of some news papers which need premium/subscriber accounts to access, but you can download them as long as you have the URL.
18:38 🔗 dd0a13f37 So you could log in with tor, get all the URLs, then use much more crude methods to fetch the actual files
18:40 🔗 dd0a13f37 If you want to archive them, it seems like the least bad method. You could have a volunteer register a trial account with valid payment info, but I don't think it's a brilliant idea to give our your name and address to do what legally speaking probably is copyright infringement of some kind to the people whose copyright you're allegedly infringing
18:43 🔗 dd0a13f37 Also, the getting of accounts can be done programatically. You would only need a few to stay clear of ratelimits, and most of the news sites have insecure login forms (doesn't say "invalid login", says "invalid email"/"invalid password")
18:47 🔗 dd0a13f37 WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
18:51 🔗 yipdw dd0a13f37: usually, getting on people's bad sides depends a lot on who that person is and how they're perceived relative to the rest of society
18:52 🔗 yipdw as a rule, pushing for shady means is frowned upon here
18:52 🔗 yipdw it's not hard-and-fast and I'm afraid that if you're looking for something you could codify in a program you won't find it here
18:52 🔗 dd0a13f37 Okay, thanks.
18:53 🔗 dd0a13f37 Could you tell me the secret word for wiki account creation?
18:53 🔗 yipdw I can't remember what it is offhand
18:53 🔗 dd0a13f37 Well yes, it definitely goes under "shady" by any definition to use hijacked accounts, so that's pretty clear.
18:56 🔗 dd0a13f37 Okay, thanks. Could you add links to http://libgen.io/libgen/repository_torrent/ http://libgen.io/dbdumps/libgen/ to the page "Library Genesis"?
18:57 🔗 dd0a13f37 It's 30tb (for the books, much more in papers), and they're not in very good health (the server went down just now for instance)
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19:52 🔗 dd0a13f37 What are your thoughts on archiving bittorrent DHT? There are some projects that are scraping it already, like btdig, btdb, torrentproject(dead), itorrents(not scraping but has a huge amount of torrents)
19:53 🔗 astrid i've thought about it
19:53 🔗 astrid i have ENTIRELY too many projects, but it's appealing
19:54 🔗 dd0a13f37 It should be as simple as asking them for a copy, the problem is what to do with the ones that discard torrent files after scraping them
19:56 🔗 dd0a13f37 Hey astrid, hate to spam, but do you have the wiki secret word? It's not y********s anymore
19:57 🔗 astrid yeah i do, sec
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20:22 🔗 JAA "i have ENTIRELY too many projects, but it's appealing" -- That sounds way too familiar.
20:23 🔗 zino Hey, you have all figured out my middle name!
20:26 🔗 JAA Speaking of that: does anyone know of any active Reddit archival efforts? I had an idea yesterday...
20:27 🔗 JAA Unfortunately, searching the logs for "reddit" is not particularly helpful.
20:27 🔗 JAA (I'm aware of the comment dump up to 2015, hence why I wrote "active".)
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20:33 🔗 dd0a13f37 Would it be too out of scope to run an archiveteam project to scrape the DHT? It will definitely be useful for the future, you can find tons of obscure stuff in other p2p networks if you have filenames etcetera, and it's quite "cheap" (4mb gets you one image or hundreds of torrents)
20:34 🔗 dd0a13f37 As in, not indexing services but getting it straight form the soruce
20:35 🔗 Asparagir !ig an2l7kygr2q9ilkuydo3qimq1 ^https?://sputniknews\.com/services/likes/
20:35 🔗 Asparagir d'oh
20:43 🔗 dd0a13f37 JAA: Isn't that still updated?
20:44 🔗 JAA dd0a13f37: I haven't seen anything recently updated on IA, at least.
20:46 🔗 JAA Oh right, here it is: http://files.pushshift.io/reddit/comments/
20:47 🔗 dd0a13f37 oh
20:47 🔗 dd0a13f37 jackpot https://files.pushshift.io/
20:47 🔗 JAA And on IA: https://archive.org/details/reddit-data-comments
20:47 🔗 dd0a13f37 Why hasn't anyone come up with a decent solution for Tor on IRC?
20:47 🔗 JAA Sweet. I won't have to do anything then. :-)
20:48 🔗 godane so looks like my squashfs file is look as a wave file for some reason
20:48 🔗 dd0a13f37 Allowing channel operators to ignore the ban, ask you to solve some captchas and wait a few days, allowing people to login to previously registered accounts, etc
20:49 🔗 dd0a13f37 run ffplay on it and see what happens
20:49 🔗 JAA #1 and #3 exist, but only on decent IRC networks (i.e. not EFNet).
20:50 🔗 dd0a13f37 I know that's how freenode does it
20:50 🔗 godane EVEN WHEN I PUT IT AS A .squashfs
20:51 🔗 godane still think its a wave file
20:51 🔗 JAA Yes, Freenode belongs to the decent IRC networks.
20:51 🔗 godane my problem is with this item: https://archive.org/details/slackwarearm-14.2-20170906-kiwix
20:51 🔗 dd0a13f37 #2 works fine on freenet which is 100% anonymous and extremely slowly moderated AND has a huge spam problem, it's also used by swedish forum flashback. EFnet is nice and decentralized though
20:52 🔗 dd0a13f37 godane: what's the issue? you can still mount ot
20:52 🔗 JAA True, but that also causes a decent amount of issues (e.g. netsplits).
20:52 🔗 godane its deriving like its a wave file
20:52 🔗 godane i'm trying to stop deriving
20:52 🔗 dd0a13f37 deriving?
20:53 🔗 godane it trys to make a wave file into mp3, flac file
20:53 🔗 dd0a13f37 What?
20:53 🔗 godane but its not wave
20:53 🔗 dd0a13f37 just mount it manually if you're onl inux
20:53 🔗 dd0a13f37 a.org also recognizes it as such, see https://ia601500.us.archive.org/21/items/slackwarearm-14.2-20170906-kiwix/slackwarearm-14.2-20170906-kiwix_files.xml
20:54 🔗 dd0a13f37 sudo mount -o loop whatever.squashfs /mntpath/
20:54 🔗 godane i know that
20:55 🔗 godane my problem is the IA thinking its a wave
20:55 🔗 godane also i'm trying to stop it from deriving
20:55 🔗 dd0a13f37 You can download the file though
20:55 🔗 godane its my fiel
20:55 🔗 dd0a13f37 if all else fails use the torrent
20:56 🔗 dd0a13f37 oh ok i see
20:56 🔗 astrid the .sb suffix is throwing it off apparently
20:56 🔗 astrid according to the derive log https://catalogd.archive.org/log/733622918
20:56 🔗 godane astrid: but i put squashfs as file name
20:56 🔗 astrid yeah that's weird
20:57 🔗 astrid can you queue a derive with delete of all former derive results?
20:57 🔗 dd0a13f37 It's not doing anything with the magics?
20:57 🔗 astrid bc it looks like you changed something in the last few minutes
20:57 🔗 astrid but there's no derive scheduled
20:58 🔗 dd0a13f37 xxd file | head -n 1, does it start with RIFF?
20:58 🔗 godane i change the end from img to squashfs since .img was still saying its a wave file
20:59 🔗 astrid ah, so you changed the filename? yeah, re-queue a derive and tick the "delete all prior versions" box
20:59 🔗 godane i delete the derive manually
21:00 🔗 astrid that also works i guess
21:01 🔗 dd0a13f37 If I want to contact someone for archival efforts, should I ask someone here to do it so it's done "officially" or can I just email them and ask for a DB copy?
21:01 🔗 astrid #2
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21:11 🔗 dd0a13f37 https://pastebin.com/GztDCtV3 Is there anything else I should add?
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21:33 🔗 Asparagir Might want to explain a little bit about who you and why you want the info, so they don't think you work for the RIAA or MPAA or something.
21:37 🔗 dd0a13f37 Too late, already sent it. But I do mention Torrentproject shutting down
21:38 🔗 dd0a13f37 itorrents is run by a guy in pakistan who writes out his full name and address on whois and also openly runs limetorrents, so I dont think he is worried about MPAA
21:39 🔗 dd0a13f37 btdigg used to provide an API, so they should understand.
21:41 🔗 dashcloud MrRadar: rather late, but the Hauppauge products are always reliable- I've used a PVR950q, and before that I used the PVR250 (which was a hardware MPEG2 encoder)
21:43 🔗 dd0a13f37 wow, the dht is big and it has more search engines than I thought
21:46 🔗 dd0a13f37 2-3tb of incompressible data, 13 chinese search engines, torbt, digbt, the 4 ones I already mentioned
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