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Somebody2 |
Hm, http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Textfiles is a blank page -- it probbbably shouldn't be |
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porky |
I want to save myself to the harddisk for reading later |
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porky |
mirrors are cool, but I need the files for my personal library |
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Somebody2 |
try this: https://archive.org/details/textfiles-dot-com-2011 |
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Somebody2 |
specifically, this torrent: https://archive.org/download/textfiles-dot-com-2011/textfiles-dot-com-2011_archive.torrent |
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porky |
o I downloaded this already |
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Somebody2 |
Ah, what was missing? |
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porky |
but is it old already, in 2011, a lot of files have been added since that time? |
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porky |
I would have fresh ways) |
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porky |
but if there is not one, I'll download the archives from the site |
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Somebody2 |
Hm, dig around on archive.org, and please report what you find. |
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I'm not sure how much has been added since 2011, frankly. |
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porky |
Well, that's the problem, it seems, there was a lot added from that time |
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Somebody2 |
Hm. |
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porky |
in any case, thanks, buddy, I'll download from the main site, it's good that there is not much work |
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Somebody2 |
Sure. |
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porky |
I have one more question |
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porky |
on another issue |
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porky |
about Mozilla Addons |
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porky |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mozilla_Addons |
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Somebody2 |
What about? |
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porky |
Does the status of the project mean that the archiving was canceled? |
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Somebody2 |
I think we tried grabbing it with ArchiveBot, but it didn't finish. So further effort would be welcomed! |
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porky |
with Mozilla such a difficult situation, that around the summer of 2018 old addons will be removed from Amo |
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porky |
So before the b-day is there a chance that you will have time to save Amo? |
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Somebody2 |
We includes *you* -- will *you* have time? |
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Somebody2 |
A good first step would be making a list of them, probalby through the API. |
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porky |
understand |
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porky |
i'm trying to save now using offline explorer enterprise |
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porky |
but this is not very productive |
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What makes it ineffective? |
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porky |
Well, there are about a million files on the site, it seems that only light themes are almost 500,000 |
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Somebody2 |
AFAIK, themes aren't scheduled to be removed, though. |
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porky |
firstly slowly save, and has a limit on the number of downloaded files |
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Somebody2 |
Ah, I see. |
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porky |
I know, I gave an example that there are a lot of files |
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Somebody2 |
Are you able to write code yourself? |
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porky |
no, nfortunately |
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Somebody2 |
Ah, that does make it more difficult. |
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porky |
archiveteam has more productive tools |
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Somebody2 |
Few that don't require at least some programming to get going, though. :-/ |
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porky |
Tell me how I can use this archiveteam tools or how I can help to save addons |
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porky |
I just at the moment have completely saved almost 900 firefox add-ons, I used scrapbook and unmht add-ons |
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Somebody2 |
Well, the start would be generating a list of the old-style addons that are supposed to get removed. |
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porky |
but in terms of time, this is hellish work |
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Somebody2 |
porky: I'm delighted to hear you've got 900 of them -- please upload them to archive.org! |
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Somebody2 |
You can create an account at archive.org with any email address, and upload them that way. |
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porky |
so to join the team you need to be able to write code? |
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Somebody2 |
No, but to start a new project, it greatly helps. |
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Somebody2 |
The team is ... rather informal. You can participate by as little as mentioning sites that are in danger of going away in the IRC channel. |
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Somebody2 |
Or helping to investigate url shortening services so urlteam can scrape them. |
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Somebody2 |
Or running the ArchiveTeam Warrior, a virtual machine that helps us with bigger projects. |
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Somebody2 |
Or processing suggestions over in the #archivebot channel, and making sure jobs being worked on there have proper ignore sets applied. |
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porky |
Well, I understood, Ie for current projects |
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Somebody2 |
So there are a lot of ways to help that don't require writing code -- but starting new projects is kinda tricky without it. |
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Somebody2 |
For AMO, it looks like this is the API query to start with: https://addons-server.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/api/addons.html#search |
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porky |
understood |
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porky |
mozilla thankless cattle) |
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Somebody2 |
hm |
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kisspunch |
hmm, i wrote a mozilla addon scraper for quixey, which is now out of business--I doubt they'll send me the code but I can ask |
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Somebody2 |
kisspunch: might as well ask! |
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Somebody2 |
I'm about to start grabbing all 839 25-item pages of API results for firefox extensions; so that'll at least get us a list to work from. |
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kisspunch |
that's most of what you'd get from me anyway, but i asked |
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kisspunch |
don't expect an answer in any relevant timespan |
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Somebody2 |
nods |
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kisspunch |
does anyone have hard data on cold storage bit rot or mechanical lifetimes |
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Somebody2 |
well it seems to be going rather fast, so that's nice at aleast |
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kisspunch |
i'm wondering what the lifetime of cold storage hard drives is |
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Somebody2 |
ok, that finished |
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Somebody2 |
Here's how I did it, for reference: for n in {1..839}; do curl -L 'https://addons.mozilla.org/api/v3/addons/search?app=firefox&type=extension&sort=created&page='$n | tee results_$n; date; done |
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Somebody2 |
It's 92MB of results; I'll send them to anyone who asks. |
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Somebody2 |
And it looks like there are 17,293 (out of the 20,962 total) that are not WebExtensions (and so will be trashed, in theory). |
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Somebody2 |
which I generated with: jq -r '.results[] | select(.current_version.files[].is_webextension != true)| .url' results_* | wc -l |
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Somebody2 |
We should probably make a separate channel for this; name suggestions? |
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Somebody2 |
It looks like the total size is only 4GB. |
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Somebody2 |
OK, now dowloading them; about 800 downloaded so far; should be done in a day or less. |
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porky |
Somebody2 hi, sorry for disappear |
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porky |
about my addons, I because of the lack of time will not be able to put them on the archive.org |
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porky |
But I can specifically send them to you via torrent |
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porky |
for example |
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although |
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maybe i need to figure it out |
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just you can find this application better than me |
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porky: I'd be glad for you to send them to me via a torrent, yes please. |
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I've now downloaded 15,776 mozilla addons; I'll need to figure out why the other ~2,000 didn't come through, and verify the ones that did against their hashes. |
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(and upload the results) |
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kisspunch |
Somebody2: please save the metadata page for each plugins too, they're almost useless without metadata |
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kisspunch |
The search results probably have 80% of the benefit in terms of including the name and short description |
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kisspunch |
If you kept those |
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SketchCow: i'm uploading super bowl 23 to FOS |
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godane |
it will take awhile so don't touch the Godand VHS Capture for the next day |
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dd0a13f37 |
odemg: the upper limit is 100gb, it will accept larger than that but abort while downloading |
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dd0a13f37 |
per torrent file i think |
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odemg |
dd0a13f37, where are you reading that? I just finished a 1.3TB torrent that completed and is now syncing to storage |
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Somebody2: Are you grabbing the previous versions, too? |
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Sanqui |
shit, pastie.com shut down |
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oh, it was pastie.org all alone (which is also down) |
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