#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-19,Sun

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wp494in case anyone wants to watch it, Bright Sun Films put up his Abandoned episode on Sears Canada, which includes an interview from a mall president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT6KRNu-MBs [00:04]
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JAAdd0a13f37: DuckDuckGo is not just a Yahoo proxy. They use Bing and Yandex as well, and I believe they also have own crawlers. [00:21]
Kaza premium blend of Yahoo/Bing/Yandex
yum
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JAA*shrug* It works well enough. [00:25]
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dd0a13f37Isn't it run by yahoo? [00:26]
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dd0a13f37yahoo is a bing proxy [00:26]
JAANot as far as I know. [00:26]
dd0a13f37It used to be I think [00:27]
astridbing is an ask jeeves proxy [00:27]
dd0a13f37https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/4lgda4/duckduckgo_is_using_yahoo_for_searches_now/ [00:27]
JAA"DuckDuckGo earns revenue by serving ads from the Yahoo–Bing search alliance network" [00:28]
dd0a13f37it's proxies all the way down [00:28]
JAAThat's the only link I can find between the two companies. [00:28]
dd0a13f37look at the link [00:28]
JAAYes, that's what I just pasted as well, an ad relationship with Yahoo.
DDG is still very much its own company though.
They just have a contract with Yahoo.
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dd0a13f37That's true
A proxy provider for yahoo, but they're an "independent" company
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JAAYes, for Yahoo *and other content*.
Again, they don't use Yahoo exclusively.
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dd0a13f37Okay then
It was only something I read once, could be so
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JAAHere's an official source: https://duck.co/help/results/sources [00:31]
dd0a13f37Anyone want to take a stab at optimizing a pdf? It's 90mb, 640mb (!) decompressed [00:31]
JAAThe "Instant Answers" thing uses over 1200 sources by now. [00:31]
dd0a13f37I can get it down to 64mb, but something is very, very wrong apparently
Since it's just 40 pages
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JAAI can take a look tomorrow, but I really need to go to bed now. [00:32]
dd0a13f37Alright, I'll upload it [00:32]
https://my.mixtape.moe/qdypcd.pdf there [00:43]
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PurpleSymdd0a13f37: I didn’t know that.
Sounds like a reasonable approach then.
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JAAdd0a13f37: I played around a bit with the PDF and Ghostscript. I was able to get it down to 64.8 MB losslessly (I think). Interestingly though, I'm getting some colour space issues when trying to compare the original PDF to the compressed one, so I'm not entirely sure if it's lossless. (Ghostscript's options are a PITA.)
Here's the command I used for that 65 MB file: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/d57b127c5dc03037c8f087b8fc2332a1/raw/7ed1cc76b80ca4cfcf241f481e2cca3dac14de02/gistfile1.txt
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godaneso i capture another tape in my sleep
it has the movie riffi on sundance, natural born killers on hbo, and ny1 city hall for 2004-01-16
only the movie riffi and ny1 city hall are gettin upload to you SketchCow
ok now i'm don't know if i will upload the movie rififi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rififi#Home_media
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schbirid:) [15:40]
godanethere are no ads in the movie so its no better then a hbo airing of something [15:41]
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justajJAA: I found a web service which implements warcprox: http://quintagroup.com/cms/python/webrecorder - how about this? [16:42]
JAAAh yeah, that might work as well. [16:43]
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justajhttps://youtu.be/n3SqusABXEk - a single tumbler browsing session + some google docs results in 600+mb of data. That is borderline criminal. [17:06]
JAAYep, the modern web is absolutely awesome. /s [17:08]
justajI understand the need for interaction but this all feels _so_ un-optimized.
I hope once WASM gets fully implemented so that hopefully it won't be dependent on JS and its dependencies and sub-dependencies.
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Harzileini wonder about libwww, old versions of which kind of have a presence barely on this side of oblivion. has there ever a release that actually reflected what http://www.w3.org/History/1993/1993PublicDomain/PublicDomain2.jpg declared?
+been
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ola_norskdamnit its a chore to find this channel when it's not in the topic of #internetarchive
that's not how internet is supposed be :(
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Frogginghow so? you just type /join #archiveteam-bs [21:18]
ola_norski had to literally search for it, and then subtract a "bs" from #archiveteam-bs-bs [21:19]
Froggingoh is it not in /list
it's +s apparently, huh
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ola_norski searched by wildcard "*-bs" ..and figured archiveteam-bs-bs was wrong
i think i actually spent a good amount of calories getting back here
ola_norsk bookmarking from now on
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ola_norskby the way, whatever happened to "clippy" and all that "It looks you're trying to" stuff :(
it had so much potential
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arkiverwelcome back [21:30]
ola_norskty..although, im just here to pester you guys with another question: Is it possible for me as user to alter an item's "mediatype" from "texts" to "movies" ?
without making a fuzz in the forums
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JAAAs far as I know, it's not possible to change the mediatype after the item has been created. [21:32]
ola_norskok [21:32]
JAAYou could create a new item with the correct mediatype and move the files over (to avoid reupload).
The identifier would be different, of course.
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DFJustindon't do that
what's the item
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JAAAh, you guys can change it?
I thought it was some sort of technical limitation.
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ola_norski've been archiving these "elsagate" channels. Since i don't agree with removal, but i can see that removal is what is eventually going to happen.
the item is https://archive.org/details/Kids_Toon_TV
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Froggingoh I love these, lmao [21:34]
ola_norskit's not for kids, i agree with that, but deletion i do not agree with..But, that is what i see that is going to happen [21:35]
antomaticif that stuff gets deleted it'll be warped and crooped and reuploaded by 100 more ripoff channels just like it - that seems to be how they roll [21:36]
FroggingI love the pedophile conspiracy theories that are attached to this [21:37]
ola_norskaye. It seems like most of them even use hacked youtube accounts to upload on [21:37]
Froggingit's just so out there [21:37]
antomaticthose channels are *weird* like that - all rabbit hole, impossible to tell what the hell is oging on [21:37]
Frogginglike yeah, they're totally doing this just to "traumatize children". what a profitable endeavour. totally not doing it for clickbait ad revenue [21:37]
antomatics/oging/going/
I don't see where they're getting the cash out, frankly
weird business
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ola_norskFrogging, i agree. I don't buy the "MKUltra illuminati pedoring" stuff..It's just animators not giving a shit
it was like that with "pizzagate" as well..eventually "truthers" latch onto it, making connections betweeen "the jews" and "planet nibiru".
and everything inbetween
anyway, i decided to archive it since the media seems to be boiling on the topic these days
which means, youtube is going to take drastic measures, just to cover their PR
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antomaticyay. new algorithms. (!) :) [21:42]
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ola_norski doubt even if they age restrict it, people are still going to complain it's there
it's how the world seems to be at the moment
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antomaticYouTube don't give a shit, though. The sheer front they have with that YouTube Kids app. "Hey parents! We promise only the best videos for your children that there haven't been /very/ many complaints about yet." [21:43]
ola_norski'm surprised a class-action lawsuit hasn't been filed yet.. [21:44]
antomatic"Well if you see something horrific, be sure to thumbs down. And keep watching!"
probably only a matter of time...
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ola_norsk"Youtube ate my hamster"
yeah
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antomatic'Charlie ate my hamster AFTER SEEING IT ON YOUTUBE shocker" [21:45]
ola_norskit's why i figured i might archive it, if only to keep proof of how shoddy Youtube Kids was :D [21:46]
Frogging"I give my children unfettered internet access and they found bad things. Wah." [21:46]
ola_norskyeah, exactly [21:47]
antomatic"But the app says it's for kids!" [21:47]
ola_norski don't agree with blaming the parents 100% though, the app was after all called "Youtube KIDS"
yes exactly
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antomatic"Yes, as in 'YouTube everything-not-yet-proven-unsuitable-for Kids'. That's our middle name.@ [21:48]
ola_norskone would expect they, Goggle the almighty, had the tech to "do no evil" [21:48]
antomatic"Imagine a kids' tv channel run by the people who comment on youtube videos. That's YouTube Kids!" [21:49]
ola_norski see a lot of people blaming just the parents, but again, Google named it "Youtube KIDS" [21:49]
antomaticitll be interesting to see where it goes. problem is that most people don't really care. [21:50]
ola_norskbtw, it seems like some people have been digging into the comments that was supposedly left by toddlers; claiming to have found thai langauage messages and encoded messages. [21:51]
FroggingI really don't care. There's so much worse things on YouTube [21:51]
antomatickids posting their parents autocomplete strings to the world :) [21:51]
ola_norskantomatic, my bet is; It's going to eventually lead to mass deletion of it, and anything that looks like it..Youtube will not put the manpower into manually review it all.
Yeah i don't care either, i just find it interessting really. But, i'd like to note that it's a tad more disturbing that "Pompel og Pilt" was
that tv reportedly gave the 70s generation of norwegian kids anxiety issues lol
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antomaticmm. maybe some kind of 'no content for kids or that looks like it's for kids from non-verified publishers' or some such hooey.
new algo to detect bright colours and comic sans. :)
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ola_norskif this (https://youtu.be/jyCBrRuG_GQ) was scary for kids ..
which i seriously can understand it beeing
then there is valid criticism to seeing mickey mouse going home drunk from the pub, having gotten ivy mouse preggy, and minnie mouse threatening to suicide because of it..
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antomaticyeah.. i mean if kids in America are killing their mates to please Slenderman then anything's possible. [21:59]
ola_norski don't know man, i grew up with super ted and the gummy bears in the 80s..I can still remember how the villain melted in Who Framed Roger Rabbit
i think maybe the 80s kids were lucky
anyway, i'm rambling (beer)..I just don't agree with what is 99.99% likely to happen; The deletion of these channels.
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antomaticyup, archive it all [22:03]
ola_norskso, i archive them, because i know the people who has them really won't give a shit. But it is in my opinion likely to become ANOTHER turningpoint in how youtube operates
i doubt highly that age-restriction will be enough..people are too "bloodthirsty" and outraged these days for that to be the only thing that happens
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antomaticit's going to be interesting, that's for sure. [22:07]
ola_norskyeah. My bet is alot of shit is going to be deleted because of it.
don't get me wrong; i think the cartoons suck, and they're wholly innapropriate for toddlers..But they are there, and i find them interessting just for the fact that "YouTube KIDS" served them to children.
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antomaticMm, that's certainly what surprises me. [22:10]
ola_norskand who knows, maybe the CIA illuminati zionist aliens did use it for mindcontrol..what do i know :D [22:11]
antomatic:)
Somehwere within YouTube there'll be this huge multi-way tension going on between "but if we restrict it to pro creators only then all the pirate stuff won't come up and our view minutes will go down" and all that horsedoo
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godaneSketchCow: your going to have some interesting tape ends collection
i say that cause there are random recordings at the end of tapes cause newer recordings didn't tape over all of it
tape is done
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ola_norskthe channel "freak family vlogs" was on youtube yesterday, it has since been deleted. Undoubtedly because it got featured in "elsagate" videos. I only managed to watch 2-3 videos, but from what i saw, it was just a father horsing around with his 2 daughters.
i can't say, but i kind of doubt it was anything else than that
the video i watched, they made "freak pizzas"..putting popcorn, shrimps and chocolate on pizzaslices
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antomaticHm, FFV was a pretty big channel too: https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/17/youtube-terminates-exploitive-kids-channel-toyfreaks-among-broader-tightening-of-its-endangerment-policies/ [22:25]
ola_norskfrom my short observation, the kids were actually calling the shots. while the father was being just a "cool dad" [22:26]
antomatic(well, ToyFreaks was big, FFV was their 2nd channel)
bah, now I want pizza :)
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ola_norskhaha
pizzagate
the gates are a flourishing these days
anyway..if that dad and his two daughters had to delete their shit because of this shit..that's a bit depressing
maybe they had worse videos than the 2-3 i watched though
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antomaticmm. I could imagine YouTube knocking off the channels with millions of finger family song variations, but if they're looking at the biggest ones on their network, they've been unduly rattled by something. [22:30]
ola_norskthere's is provably pedos in the comment sections of videos on youtube that features children; That is undeniably a fact..But, those fuckers will literally fap to a toys catalog
so, remove all "Toy R Us" catalogs? I wouldn't mind if they did, and i'm sure the rainforests wouldn't..but, it does seem a bit wrong to take that action
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antomaticSure. YT comments are cancer, in every way. Though people have been uneasy about ToyFreaks for a while - this one on Reddit is from August last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/4vz1q6/toy_freaks_is_a_vile_foul_and_disgusting_channel/ [22:35]
ola_norsk1 year!? when did "the daddy of five" stuff begin? [22:37]
antomaticDitto this in January: http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/jamie-jo-bananajamana-trending/
274 million views in 30 days alone, something's way off there, whatever it is.
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ola_norsk"Toy Freaks" is a vile, foul and disgusting channel" ..I did see them putting (probably cold) shrimps and reeses chokolate on pizza [22:38]
antomaticSeems to have been that Medium post and the NYT article that were the last straw, or finally got YouTube's attention [22:38]
ola_norskdamnit, i'll have to read this [22:39]
antomaticLooks like people were just weirded out by an apparent focus on pain and suffering. [22:39]
ola_norsk"The channel stars a father and his 2 young girls.This pretentious cunt of a father puts his young daughters under extreme pressure, pain, stress and anxiety and films them. He is profiting off of his children's pain and suffering. If this isn't abuse, I don't know what is." ...
my impression was the dad was probably too slack..To me, it semmed like his daugthers were the one in charge
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antomaticI can't say, I never really saw the stuff [22:40]
hook54321JAA: Are you still grabbing those Catalonia cameras every 5 minutes or so? [22:41]
antomaticHis kids probably saw the exact same kind of "get famous on the internet by screaming and shouting and doing funny stunts" kind of stuff that was the whole plotline for iCarly and Bizaardvark and all the crap that passes for TV these days. :) [22:42]
ola_norsknah, like i said i only saw 2-3 videos literally yesterday. But my immediate impression was "bestfriend dad", if you know what i mean by that. (Which isn't necessaryly a good thing, but miles from abuse) [22:42]
antomaticcool. hope so. [22:42]
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ola_norskit annoys me the channel is deleted today though, i only watched it to see if it was really THAT BAD...But fact it, they undoubtedly deleted because of negative media attention
is*
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antomaticI bet they're annoyed too - apparently they should have been pulling in at least $250k a month from the second channel alone
looks like there are copycat channels and reuploaders at it already
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ola_norskyeah, i was going to say that when i noticed the channel is now gone.. [22:48]
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ola_norskBut, consider this: If their channel are now removed for child-abuse/exploitation..Who called the child protective services? If you ask me, i'd bet no one did that. [22:50]
antomaticProbably not. They might read the news and decide to investigate for themselves, maybe. [22:51]
ola_norskaye
that, and sending a shit-ton of "hate mail"
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antomaticLike the Weinstein thing, stuff gets ignored or tolerated while it's good business, until the complaints get too loud to ignore [22:52]
ola_norskyeah [22:53]
Frogginguntil people become OUTRAGED™ [22:53]
ola_norskexactly [22:54]
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ola_norskVigilante justice is a part of internet, but i don't agree it should be pert of justice systems
part*
e.g One shouldn't file a rape report on twitter or tumbler
"I just got robbed!" (yet, i didn't call the police)
this topic discussion floated away from the subject :D
i blame beer
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antomaticto beer! :) [23:01]
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ola_norskspeaking of OUTRAGED™ .. Did Keemstar get off the hook for this? https://youtu.be/7q0DpaHGM2Y [23:37]
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ola_norskI actually wanted to punch that douche in the face when seeing it
my guess; He got off the hook, going happy-go-lucky while running DramaAlert
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ola_norskafter all, the witch-hunter often does [23:41]
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