#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-19,Sun

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00:04 πŸ”— wp494 in case anyone wants to watch it, Bright Sun Films put up his Abandoned episode on Sears Canada, which includes an interview from a mall president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT6KRNu-MBs
00:21 πŸ”— JAA dd0a13f37: DuckDuckGo is not just a Yahoo proxy. They use Bing and Yandex as well, and I believe they also have own crawlers.
00:22 πŸ”— Kaz a premium blend of Yahoo/Bing/Yandex
00:22 πŸ”— Kaz yum
00:25 πŸ”— JAA *shrug* It works well enough.
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00:26 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 Isn't it run by yahoo?
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00:26 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 yahoo is a bing proxy
00:26 πŸ”— JAA Not as far as I know.
00:27 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 It used to be I think
00:27 πŸ”— astrid bing is an ask jeeves proxy
00:27 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/4lgda4/duckduckgo_is_using_yahoo_for_searches_now/
00:28 πŸ”— JAA "DuckDuckGo earns revenue by serving ads from the Yahoo–Bing search alliance network"
00:28 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 it's proxies all the way down
00:28 πŸ”— JAA That's the only link I can find between the two companies.
00:28 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 look at the link
00:29 πŸ”— JAA Yes, that's what I just pasted as well, an ad relationship with Yahoo.
00:29 πŸ”— JAA DDG is still very much its own company though.
00:29 πŸ”— JAA They just have a contract with Yahoo.
00:30 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 That's true
00:30 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 A proxy provider for yahoo, but they're an "independent" company
00:30 πŸ”— JAA Yes, for Yahoo *and other content*.
00:30 πŸ”— JAA Again, they don't use Yahoo exclusively.
00:30 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 Okay then
00:30 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 It was only something I read once, could be so
00:31 πŸ”— JAA Here's an official source: https://duck.co/help/results/sources
00:31 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 Anyone want to take a stab at optimizing a pdf? It's 90mb, 640mb (!) decompressed
00:31 πŸ”— JAA The "Instant Answers" thing uses over 1200 sources by now.
00:31 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 I can get it down to 64mb, but something is very, very wrong apparently
00:32 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 Since it's just 40 pages
00:32 πŸ”— JAA I can take a look tomorrow, but I really need to go to bed now.
00:32 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 Alright, I'll upload it
00:43 πŸ”— dd0a13f37 https://my.mixtape.moe/qdypcd.pdf there
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09:03 πŸ”— PurpleSym dd0a13f37: I didn’t know that.
09:04 πŸ”— PurpleSym Sounds like a reasonable approach then.
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12:49 πŸ”— JAA dd0a13f37: I played around a bit with the PDF and Ghostscript. I was able to get it down to 64.8 MB losslessly (I think). Interestingly though, I'm getting some colour space issues when trying to compare the original PDF to the compressed one, so I'm not entirely sure if it's lossless. (Ghostscript's options are a PITA.)
12:51 πŸ”— JAA Here's the command I used for that 65 MB file: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/d57b127c5dc03037c8f087b8fc2332a1/raw/7ed1cc76b80ca4cfcf241f481e2cca3dac14de02/gistfile1.txt
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15:33 πŸ”— godane so i capture another tape in my sleep
15:34 πŸ”— godane it has the movie riffi on sundance, natural born killers on hbo, and ny1 city hall for 2004-01-16
15:38 πŸ”— godane only the movie riffi and ny1 city hall are gettin upload to you SketchCow
15:40 πŸ”— godane ok now i'm don't know if i will upload the movie rififi
15:40 πŸ”— godane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rififi#Home_media
15:40 πŸ”— schbirid :)
15:41 πŸ”— godane there are no ads in the movie so its no better then a hbo airing of something
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16:42 πŸ”— justaj JAA: I found a web service which implements warcprox: http://quintagroup.com/cms/python/webrecorder - how about this?
16:43 πŸ”— JAA Ah yeah, that might work as well.
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17:06 πŸ”— justaj https://youtu.be/n3SqusABXEk - a single tumbler browsing session + some google docs results in 600+mb of data. That is borderline criminal.
17:08 πŸ”— JAA Yep, the modern web is absolutely awesome. /s
17:09 πŸ”— justaj I understand the need for interaction but this all feels _so_ un-optimized.
17:11 πŸ”— justaj I hope once WASM gets fully implemented so that hopefully it won't be dependent on JS and its dependencies and sub-dependencies.
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18:50 πŸ”— Harzilein hi
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18:53 πŸ”— Harzilein i wonder about libwww, old versions of which kind of have a presence barely on this side of oblivion. has there ever a release that actually reflected what http://www.w3.org/History/1993/1993PublicDomain/PublicDomain2.jpg declared?
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21:17 πŸ”— ola_norsk damnit its a chore to find this channel when it's not in the topic of #internetarchive
21:18 πŸ”— ola_norsk that's not how internet is supposed be :(
21:18 πŸ”— Frogging how so? you just type /join #archiveteam-bs
21:19 πŸ”— ola_norsk i had to literally search for it, and then subtract a "bs" from #archiveteam-bs-bs
21:19 πŸ”— Frogging oh is it not in /list
21:20 πŸ”— Frogging it's +s apparently, huh
21:20 πŸ”— ola_norsk i searched by wildcard "*-bs" ..and figured archiveteam-bs-bs was wrong
21:21 πŸ”— ola_norsk i think i actually spent a good amount of calories getting back here
21:22 πŸ”— * ola_norsk bookmarking from now on
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21:28 πŸ”— ola_norsk by the way, whatever happened to "clippy" and all that "It looks you're trying to" stuff :(
21:28 πŸ”— ola_norsk it had so much potential
21:30 πŸ”— arkiver welcome back
21:31 πŸ”— ola_norsk ty..although, im just here to pester you guys with another question: Is it possible for me as user to alter an item's "mediatype" from "texts" to "movies" ?
21:32 πŸ”— ola_norsk without making a fuzz in the forums
21:32 πŸ”— JAA As far as I know, it's not possible to change the mediatype after the item has been created.
21:32 πŸ”— ola_norsk ok
21:32 πŸ”— JAA You could create a new item with the correct mediatype and move the files over (to avoid reupload).
21:32 πŸ”— JAA The identifier would be different, of course.
21:32 πŸ”— DFJustin don't do that
21:32 πŸ”— DFJustin what's the item
21:33 πŸ”— JAA Ah, you guys can change it?
21:33 πŸ”— JAA I thought it was some sort of technical limitation.
21:34 πŸ”— ola_norsk i've been archiving these "elsagate" channels. Since i don't agree with removal, but i can see that removal is what is eventually going to happen.
21:34 πŸ”— ola_norsk the item is https://archive.org/details/Kids_Toon_TV
21:34 πŸ”— Frogging oh I love these, lmao
21:35 πŸ”— ola_norsk it's not for kids, i agree with that, but deletion i do not agree with..But, that is what i see that is going to happen
21:36 πŸ”— antomatic if that stuff gets deleted it'll be warped and crooped and reuploaded by 100 more ripoff channels just like it - that seems to be how they roll
21:37 πŸ”— Frogging I love the pedophile conspiracy theories that are attached to this
21:37 πŸ”— ola_norsk aye. It seems like most of them even use hacked youtube accounts to upload on
21:37 πŸ”— Frogging it's just so out there
21:37 πŸ”— antomatic those channels are *weird* like that - all rabbit hole, impossible to tell what the hell is oging on
21:37 πŸ”— Frogging like yeah, they're totally doing this just to "traumatize children". what a profitable endeavour. totally not doing it for clickbait ad revenue
21:37 πŸ”— antomatic s/oging/going/
21:37 πŸ”— antomatic I don't see where they're getting the cash out, frankly
21:38 πŸ”— antomatic weird business
21:38 πŸ”— ola_norsk Frogging, i agree. I don't buy the "MKUltra illuminati pedoring" stuff..It's just animators not giving a shit
21:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk it was like that with "pizzagate" as well..eventually "truthers" latch onto it, making connections betweeen "the jews" and "planet nibiru".
21:41 πŸ”— ola_norsk and everything inbetween
21:41 πŸ”— ola_norsk anyway, i decided to archive it since the media seems to be boiling on the topic these days
21:42 πŸ”— ola_norsk which means, youtube is going to take drastic measures, just to cover their PR
21:42 πŸ”— antomatic yay. new algorithms. (!) :)
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21:43 πŸ”— ola_norsk i doubt even if they age restrict it, people are still going to complain it's there
21:43 πŸ”— ola_norsk it's how the world seems to be at the moment
21:43 πŸ”— antomatic YouTube don't give a shit, though. The sheer front they have with that YouTube Kids app. "Hey parents! We promise only the best videos for your children that there haven't been /very/ many complaints about yet."
21:44 πŸ”— ola_norsk i'm surprised a class-action lawsuit hasn't been filed yet..
21:44 πŸ”— antomatic "Well if you see something horrific, be sure to thumbs down. And keep watching!"
21:45 πŸ”— antomatic probably only a matter of time...
21:45 πŸ”— ola_norsk "Youtube ate my hamster"
21:45 πŸ”— ola_norsk yeah
21:45 πŸ”— antomatic 'Charlie ate my hamster AFTER SEEING IT ON YOUTUBE shocker"
21:46 πŸ”— ola_norsk it's why i figured i might archive it, if only to keep proof of how shoddy Youtube Kids was :D
21:46 πŸ”— Frogging "I give my children unfettered internet access and they found bad things. Wah."
21:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk yeah, exactly
21:47 πŸ”— antomatic "But the app says it's for kids!"
21:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk i don't agree with blaming the parents 100% though, the app was after all called "Youtube KIDS"
21:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk yes exactly
21:48 πŸ”— antomatic "Yes, as in 'YouTube everything-not-yet-proven-unsuitable-for Kids'. That's our middle name.@
21:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk one would expect they, Goggle the almighty, had the tech to "do no evil"
21:49 πŸ”— antomatic "Imagine a kids' tv channel run by the people who comment on youtube videos. That's YouTube Kids!"
21:49 πŸ”— ola_norsk i see a lot of people blaming just the parents, but again, Google named it "Youtube KIDS"
21:50 πŸ”— antomatic itll be interesting to see where it goes. problem is that most people don't really care.
21:51 πŸ”— ola_norsk btw, it seems like some people have been digging into the comments that was supposedly left by toddlers; claiming to have found thai langauage messages and encoded messages.
21:51 πŸ”— Frogging I really don't care. There's so much worse things on YouTube
21:51 πŸ”— antomatic kids posting their parents autocomplete strings to the world :)
21:52 πŸ”— ola_norsk antomatic, my bet is; It's going to eventually lead to mass deletion of it, and anything that looks like it..Youtube will not put the manpower into manually review it all.
21:53 πŸ”— ola_norsk Yeah i don't care either, i just find it interessting really. But, i'd like to note that it's a tad more disturbing that "Pompel og Pilt" was
21:54 πŸ”— ola_norsk that tv reportedly gave the 70s generation of norwegian kids anxiety issues lol
21:54 πŸ”— antomatic mm. maybe some kind of 'no content for kids or that looks like it's for kids from non-verified publishers' or some such hooey.
21:55 πŸ”— antomatic new algo to detect bright colours and comic sans. :)
21:57 πŸ”— ola_norsk if this (https://youtu.be/jyCBrRuG_GQ) was scary for kids ..
21:57 πŸ”— ola_norsk which i seriously can understand it beeing
21:58 πŸ”— ola_norsk then there is valid criticism to seeing mickey mouse going home drunk from the pub, having gotten ivy mouse preggy, and minnie mouse threatening to suicide because of it..
21:59 πŸ”— antomatic yeah.. i mean if kids in America are killing their mates to please Slenderman then anything's possible.
22:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk i don't know man, i grew up with super ted and the gummy bears in the 80s..I can still remember how the villain melted in Who Framed Roger Rabbit
22:01 πŸ”— ola_norsk i think maybe the 80s kids were lucky
22:03 πŸ”— ola_norsk anyway, i'm rambling (beer)..I just don't agree with what is 99.99% likely to happen; The deletion of these channels.
22:03 πŸ”— antomatic yup, archive it all
22:04 πŸ”— ola_norsk so, i archive them, because i know the people who has them really won't give a shit. But it is in my opinion likely to become ANOTHER turningpoint in how youtube operates
22:06 πŸ”— ola_norsk i doubt highly that age-restriction will be enough..people are too "bloodthirsty" and outraged these days for that to be the only thing that happens
22:07 πŸ”— antomatic it's going to be interesting, that's for sure.
22:08 πŸ”— ola_norsk yeah. My bet is alot of shit is going to be deleted because of it.
22:10 πŸ”— ola_norsk don't get me wrong; i think the cartoons suck, and they're wholly innapropriate for toddlers..But they are there, and i find them interessting just for the fact that "YouTube KIDS" served them to children.
22:10 πŸ”— antomatic Mm, that's certainly what surprises me.
22:11 πŸ”— ola_norsk and who knows, maybe the CIA illuminati zionist aliens did use it for mindcontrol..what do i know :D
22:11 πŸ”— antomatic :)
22:14 πŸ”— antomatic Somehwere within YouTube there'll be this huge multi-way tension going on between "but if we restrict it to pro creators only then all the pirate stuff won't come up and our view minutes will go down" and all that horsedoo
22:14 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: your going to have some interesting tape ends collection
22:15 πŸ”— godane i say that cause there are random recordings at the end of tapes cause newer recordings didn't tape over all of it
22:17 πŸ”— godane tape is done
22:21 πŸ”— ola_norsk the channel "freak family vlogs" was on youtube yesterday, it has since been deleted. Undoubtedly because it got featured in "elsagate" videos. I only managed to watch 2-3 videos, but from what i saw, it was just a father horsing around with his 2 daughters.
22:22 πŸ”— ola_norsk i can't say, but i kind of doubt it was anything else than that
22:24 πŸ”— ola_norsk the video i watched, they made "freak pizzas"..putting popcorn, shrimps and chocolate on pizzaslices
22:25 πŸ”— antomatic Hm, FFV was a pretty big channel too: https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/17/youtube-terminates-exploitive-kids-channel-toyfreaks-among-broader-tightening-of-its-endangerment-policies/
22:26 πŸ”— ola_norsk from my short observation, the kids were actually calling the shots. while the father was being just a "cool dad"
22:26 πŸ”— antomatic (well, ToyFreaks was big, FFV was their 2nd channel)
22:27 πŸ”— antomatic bah, now I want pizza :)
22:27 πŸ”— ola_norsk haha
22:27 πŸ”— ola_norsk pizzagate
22:28 πŸ”— ola_norsk the gates are a flourishing these days
22:29 πŸ”— ola_norsk anyway..if that dad and his two daughters had to delete their shit because of this shit..that's a bit depressing
22:30 πŸ”— ola_norsk maybe they had worse videos than the 2-3 i watched though
22:30 πŸ”— antomatic mm. I could imagine YouTube knocking off the channels with millions of finger family song variations, but if they're looking at the biggest ones on their network, they've been unduly rattled by something.
22:33 πŸ”— ola_norsk there's is provably pedos in the comment sections of videos on youtube that features children; That is undeniably a fact..But, those fuckers will literally fap to a toys catalog
22:35 πŸ”— ola_norsk so, remove all "Toy R Us" catalogs? I wouldn't mind if they did, and i'm sure the rainforests wouldn't..but, it does seem a bit wrong to take that action
22:35 πŸ”— antomatic Sure. YT comments are cancer, in every way. Though people have been uneasy about ToyFreaks for a while - this one on Reddit is from August last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/4vz1q6/toy_freaks_is_a_vile_foul_and_disgusting_channel/
22:37 πŸ”— ola_norsk 1 year!? when did "the daddy of five" stuff begin?
22:37 πŸ”— antomatic Ditto this in January: http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/jamie-jo-bananajamana-trending/
22:37 πŸ”— antomatic 274 million views in 30 days alone, something's way off there, whatever it is.
22:38 πŸ”— ola_norsk "Toy Freaks" is a vile, foul and disgusting channel" ..I did see them putting (probably cold) shrimps and reeses chokolate on pizza
22:38 πŸ”— antomatic Seems to have been that Medium post and the NYT article that were the last straw, or finally got YouTube's attention
22:39 πŸ”— ola_norsk damnit, i'll have to read this
22:39 πŸ”— antomatic Looks like people were just weirded out by an apparent focus on pain and suffering.
22:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk "The channel stars a father and his 2 young girls.This pretentious cunt of a father puts his young daughters under extreme pressure, pain, stress and anxiety and films them. He is profiting off of his children's pain and suffering. If this isn't abuse, I don't know what is." ...
22:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk my impression was the dad was probably too slack..To me, it semmed like his daugthers were the one in charge
22:40 πŸ”— antomatic I can't say, I never really saw the stuff
22:41 πŸ”— hook54321 JAA: Are you still grabbing those Catalonia cameras every 5 minutes or so?
22:42 πŸ”— antomatic His kids probably saw the exact same kind of "get famous on the internet by screaming and shouting and doing funny stunts" kind of stuff that was the whole plotline for iCarly and Bizaardvark and all the crap that passes for TV these days. :)
22:42 πŸ”— ola_norsk nah, like i said i only saw 2-3 videos literally yesterday. But my immediate impression was "bestfriend dad", if you know what i mean by that. (Which isn't necessaryly a good thing, but miles from abuse)
22:42 πŸ”— antomatic cool. hope so.
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22:44 πŸ”— ola_norsk it annoys me the channel is deleted today though, i only watched it to see if it was really THAT BAD...But fact it, they undoubtedly deleted because of negative media attention
22:44 πŸ”— ola_norsk is*
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22:47 πŸ”— antomatic I bet they're annoyed too - apparently they should have been pulling in at least $250k a month from the second channel alone
22:48 πŸ”— antomatic looks like there are copycat channels and reuploaders at it already
22:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk yeah, i was going to say that when i noticed the channel is now gone..
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22:50 πŸ”— ola_norsk But, consider this: If their channel are now removed for child-abuse/exploitation..Who called the child protective services? If you ask me, i'd bet no one did that.
22:51 πŸ”— antomatic Probably not. They might read the news and decide to investigate for themselves, maybe.
22:51 πŸ”— ola_norsk aye
22:52 πŸ”— ola_norsk that, and sending a shit-ton of "hate mail"
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22:52 πŸ”— antomatic Like the Weinstein thing, stuff gets ignored or tolerated while it's good business, until the complaints get too loud to ignore
22:53 πŸ”— ola_norsk yeah
22:53 πŸ”— Frogging until people become OUTRAGEDβ„’
22:54 πŸ”— ola_norsk exactly
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22:56 πŸ”— ola_norsk Vigilante justice is a part of internet, but i don't agree it should be pert of justice systems
22:56 πŸ”— ola_norsk part*
22:57 πŸ”— ola_norsk e.g One shouldn't file a rape report on twitter or tumbler
22:58 πŸ”— ola_norsk "I just got robbed!" (yet, i didn't call the police)
23:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk this topic discussion floated away from the subject :D
23:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk i blame beer
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23:01 πŸ”— antomatic to beer! :)
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23:37 πŸ”— ola_norsk speaking of OUTRAGEDβ„’ .. Did Keemstar get off the hook for this? https://youtu.be/7q0DpaHGM2Y
23:37 πŸ”— hook54321 sets mode: +o arkiver
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23:39 πŸ”— ola_norsk I actually wanted to punch that douche in the face when seeing it
23:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk my guess; He got off the hook, going happy-go-lucky while running DramaAlert
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23:41 πŸ”— ola_norsk after all, the witch-hunter often does
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