#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-29,Wed

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hook54321Does anyone know if IA has a nondestructive book scanner in SF that someone might be able to go get a book scanned at? The book isn't available online and likely won't ever be unless someone scans it. [05:22]
CoolCanuchave you considered using a scanner app on a mobile device? :)
it wont be super high dpi but it will be legiable.
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wp494hook54321: isn't IA's Scribe system non-destructive already? [05:39]
hook54321I think so, the person wants to keep the book though. [05:39]
wp494ohhh [05:40]
hook54321I saw awhile ago that IA let people scan books at an event....
At this event. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-archive-turns-20-tickets-27292398298#
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godanei'm going to be uploading some more episodes of The Unit
and some 24 episodes i think
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godaneSketchCow: i found tape 1 of bruce schneier deposition
its been digitize now
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odemghttps://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=86&acctid=6794
godane, have we seen any tapes from the myspleen/craigslist guy yet?
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godanethere was only one torrent upload so far
its about 22gb
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odemgSlow af...
Are you getting it to ia as it comes?
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godanei'm not get any of the tapes
i still have to figure out how to mail jasons stuff back to IA
anyways: https://www.gofundme.com/help-to-archive-a-collection-of-vhs
its a collection of 1000 tapes of canadian tv
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SketchCowI have an incredibly boring thing that maybe people want to help with
https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22description%3ADescription%20forthcoming%22
These are all my items which lack descriptions
Anyone who wants to hashbin or pastebin replacement descriptions, I'll take. Otherwise, I'll get to them myself
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godanehttps://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-15606604 [14:52]
SketchCow: btw i added a 2nd goal to my patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/godane [15:03]
odemggodane, how do I get 270,514/4.8TB to ia?
270,514 files*
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SketchCowWhy ask him and not me [15:07]
odemgohh you're here, it's the Madokami manga ftp rip, how? [15:08]
SketchCowEasiest is mail in a hard drive to me
Or I can give you an FTP drop
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odemgThought snail mail would come up, but I don't have it locally so ftp would be nice [15:09]
SketchCow, pm me drop details when ready. It's currently on a 10Gbit box in france, what kinda speeds can I expect to be able to push to your ftp? [15:15]
IglooWho's it with odemg?
I get around 1Gbps for american hosted
and 250 max for european stuff
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jrwrTime for some rsync then :) [15:20]
odemgIgloo, not sure honestly, I was given access by someone months ago. I can get 940MB/s between it and another 10Gbit box in Prague though. [15:23]
IglooNoice [15:30]
SketchCowhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam_pomf?&sort=-downloads&page=1 is me adding POMF logos and images so that the collection, which is terrible, doesn't LOOK terrible. [15:44]
Also, sorting the things in the godane inbox again [15:56]
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godaneSketchCow: my inbox always need sorting :-D [16:16]
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SketchCowIt DOES [18:03]
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JAADoes anyone here have experience with those $10 external floppy drives from eBay?
I want to try to save anything that might still be on my floppies. They're all standard 3.5" 2HD (1.44 MB / 2.0 MB) ones.
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SketchCowUSB Floppies are fine [19:02]
PurpleSymJust noticed that Chrome-based web archiving (using a HTTP proxy) already exists: https://github.com/internetarchive/brozzler/ [19:03]
SketchCowYou want a program that does fucktons of retries [19:03]
JAAI.e. ddrescue? [19:03]
astridyeah [19:04]
JAASome of these floppies were written on Windows, others on Mac. Does that matter? (I really have no idea about how floppies work internally.) [19:04]
astridyes. mac floppies are very different. [19:04]
JAAHmm [19:04]
astridthey're laid out differently physically [19:04]
schbirid2https://twitter.com/winampskins !!!!!!!!!! [19:06]
CoolCanukfound this JAA. Install at own risk :P https://www.macdisk.com/mden.php
ew. You have to buy it? nevermind
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JAAEw, Windows. [19:07]
CoolCanukyou're the one who wrote the windows files to the disk ;)
I misread your orig message wrong. nevermind
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JAAastrid: So does that mean that I'd need two drives to read both types of floppies, or is it just a matter of how the data is structured on the disk? [19:12]
CoolCanuksurely there must be a reason why we receive 508 on the wiki. :/ [19:14]
JAAIt seems to be difficult to find information on this stuff on the internet... [19:14]
CoolCanukholy ... I am in disbelief at the new apple "bug" [19:20]
JAAif not rootExists: createUser(username = 'root', password = '')
WCGW?
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CoolCanukeasier to login than the ctrl+alt+del ctrl+alt+del "Administrator" on xp... [19:21]
astridJAA: you need a whole different drive, i believe [19:22]
JAAEw [19:22]
CoolCanukwhere can we discuss the wiki? I would love it if we could upload svg files [19:31]
Froggingyou can discuss it here but I don't recall who runs it [19:31]
CoolCanukoh ok :) Thanks [19:32]
Froggingthey might be lurking if you're lucky [19:32]
CoolCanukIt would be nice if the logo was a bit bigger on Template: Infobox project (like on wikipedia), but it's not my decision. Sadly the template the wiki uses overrides all sizes unless you want to display the full size image [19:34]
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SketchCowhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam_screenr Much nicer [20:17]
CoolCanuklol wish I knew how to upload web
does anyone know if it's possible to "split" files in archive.org? I uploaded a bunch of pdfs as one item and it would be nice to have 1 item per pdf
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astridyou can't split items like that in-place
you'll have to download and reupload
which you can do with this tool: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive
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CoolCanukO_O RIP [20:31]
astridi mean, you'll have to write the script yourself, but this takes care of the archive.org bits [20:32]
CoolCanukhttps://www.metronews.ca/winnipeg.html and https://www.metronews.ca/ottawa.html appear to be officially gone. RIP [20:41]
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JAAastrid: What about 'ia move'? That does a server copy + delete, as far as I understand the documentation. [20:44]
CoolCanukI still have the files.
it's just easier to not reupload :P
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astridJAA: only within the same item [20:47]
JAAOh, really? In that case, the docs are definitely misleading: "You can copy files in archive.org items like so: ia copy <src-identifier>/<src-filename> <dest-identifier>/<dest-filename>" (and "ia move works just like ia copy except the source file is deleted after the file has been successfully copied.") [20:49]
astridi haven't tried, but i always thought that you can't move across item boundaries [20:51]
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JAASketchCow: FOS's pipeline.html is semi-broken. It still displays the df output, but not the individual projects. [21:20]
SketchCowOh, I'm SURE it's broken
I think it's SUPER broken
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I'm now fixing things on FOS lineraly [21:30]
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DFJustinJAA: Mac high-density 1.44MB floppies are the same as PC floppies, just with a different file system
the older 800K floppies use a totally different magnetic encoding scheme
so for the former a USB floppy should be fine, for the latter you'd need an old Mac or a kryoflux type board
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astridah, thanks for the clarification [22:00]
JAASounds good, thanks. [22:01]
DFJustinto read the file system on windows you'll need a program like transmac or hfvexplorer [22:02]
JAAI've read a bit more about it since, and I came across "DOS = fixed rotational speed, Mac = varying speed" (for better data density in the outer parts of the disk, I assume?). Is that about the 800k ones then? [22:03]
DFJustinyes [22:03]
JAAI see.
Lots of confusing information across the internet. :-P
Which file systems were used? FAT(something) and HFS?
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DFJustinI believe so [22:05]
JAAAlright, I'll deal with that when I have the images. Thanks for the info! [22:09]
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SketchCowhttp://fos.textfiles.com/pipeline.html bettere [23:30]
JAA:-)
Thanks!
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SketchCow: You asked the other day whether someone would be willing to fix SSL on the wiki. I'd happily do that. Let's Encrypt has made it really easy. [23:36]
jrwrmight seem strange, but I need some help programming a 6502 / BASIC, doing some loops inbasic poking data but a refresh look for the LED bank is not getting enough cycles [23:36]
JAAAnd on a related note, is there anything we can do about the resource limit errors? They've been getting quite annoying lately. [23:37]
jrwrcaching, the site is pretty static, but from what I understand its on a shared webhost under apache [23:38]
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CoolCanukkeep-alive would be a start [23:43]
JAAHTTP/2, also.
Lots of potential for improvement.
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CoolCanukwe're not using HTTP/2? oh god [23:45]
JAAOf course not. [23:45]
CoolCanukare we anti-cloudflare?
they'll give you https, http/2, ipv6, always online, ddos protection, etc for free. You can exclude subdomains from cloudflare as needed
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JAAFuck CloudFlare. [23:46]
astridwe are anti-cloudflare
cloudflare doesn't give you ddos protection for free, btw.
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CoolCanukit's worked for me O_O. Just not advanced
but I completely understand why you're against WAF and such
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JAAThere's also the whole MitM problem, which apparently almost nobody is concerned about. A major fraction of the internet traffic can effectively be monitored and modified at will by one US company. [23:49]
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CoolCanukat&t room 641a? [23:49]
SketchCowJAA: OK [23:50]
JAAAnd well, even if they're not evil and all their employees trustworthy, there's still the risk of data leaks, as we've seen just a few months ago. [23:50]
SketchCowWell, Coderjo hates cloudflare
I have no direct opinion
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astridcloudflare fucks with archiving efforts often enough that i don't like it [23:50]
CoolCanukI completely understand why you'd hate cloudflare. I would too. [23:51]

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