#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-10,Sun

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sec0ndWhere does the ArchiveTeam meet? [01:18]
ola_norskhere is the bullsh*t :D
check out #architeam or #warrior for less degredation :D
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JAAWhat's #architeam? [01:19]
ola_norskit's a channel..with typos [01:20]
JAAYay, free typos! [01:20]
ola_norsk(it a cool sounding name though 'ARCHY-TEAM!'
..much cooler than #archiveteam
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CoolCanukoh god [01:23]
JAA/ kickban ola_norsk [01:23]
CoolCanukhttp://archie.icm.edu.pl/archie-adv_eng.html [01:24]
sec0ndAny work going on with a new warrior? Maybe on that can be deployed via docker? [01:24]
CoolCanuky tho
why not just git clone <githublink> , sudo ./get-wget-lua-whatever, seesaw, dependencies, done
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JAABecause we need a pretty interface for the less technically inclined supporters of AT.
The kind that can figure out how to boot a VM but has never seen a terminal before.
Basically, "download this file, open it with VMWare/VirtualBox, and just leave it running until the heat death of the universe".
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CoolCanukwe cant keep a wiki up, we cant keep a twitter active. we also cant keep a vm up to date. Will we create a better vm, based on the past? [01:30]
JAAWe keep at least one Twitter account *too* active. But that's an entire separate discussion that I'd rather not have right now. [01:31]
CoolCanukhttps://twitter.com/archiveteam [01:31]
JAABe the change you want to see in the world. :-) [01:31]
CoolCanuktried that
was told its not good to duplicate data
hmm
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JAANow, to get back to the original question. sec0nd: 1. There is a warrior docker image. 2. There is also a VM which uses that Docker image. In both cases, I'm not sure how well those systems stay up to date.
Well yeah, we need to solve the problems with our existing wiki. Creating a copy, then redirecting (some) people to that instead of the original and have two different versions of articles only creates more problems.
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CoolCanukloadbalancing [01:34]
sec0ndHow do I become an archiveteam member? [01:34]
JAAYou already are. [01:34]
omglolbahwarriorv3 image does not seem to work on vmware player 5 on windows at least.. roblox job works fine (tested it overnight) but the vidme project fails to do anything at all [01:34]
CoolCanukwait what
vmware player FIVE?
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sec0ndJAA so there is not really an ArchiveTeam membership eh, nothing official [01:35]
CoolCanuksir have you considered running version .... 14? [01:35]
sec0ndCan we start offering memberships etc? [01:35]
omglolbahis it still free? :p [01:35]
sec0ndMaybe become an organization?
Maybe offer emails?
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omglolbahbut really, is the vmware version going to change how the scripts run in the image? [01:35]
JAAsec0nd: Nope. Being here and sharing our goals is all that's necessary. [01:35]
CoolCanukPlayer was always freemium
version 7 added support for ubuntu 14.10.
version 4 is 6 years old
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omglolbahso, in the current discussion of a warrior image that works... Is vmware player 5 going to fail to run the vidme job, but work fine with roblox?
(bit of a leading question there)
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CoolCanukwhat error do you get? [01:37]
omglolbahno error, just a blankt 'current project' page [01:37]
JAACoolCanuk: We don't need load balancing, we need to fix issues on the wiki installation. Literally any server should be able to handle the traffic we're getting. Jason posted stats the other day, it's only about 1.5 requests per second including all static imagery etc. or an order of magnitude less for only page views... [01:39]
CoolCanukwhat happens when you run the script manually
JAA 1.5 requests per second that *went through*
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omglolbahHow would one do that? No docs that I can find [01:40]
CoolCanukunless your stats are at dns level [01:40]
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CoolCanukomglolbah: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/roblox-grab/blob/master/README.md
use "Running without a warrior"
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omglolbahhow do those apply to vidme? [01:41]
JAAMeh, whatever, even if it was ten times more, that shouldn't be an issue if the server is configured correctly. [01:42]
CoolCanukhttps://github.com/ArchiveTeam/vidme-grab/blob/master/README.md [01:42]
omglolbahall that is within the docker container right? [01:45]
CoolCanukwherever linux is [01:45]
ola_norski disticly remember reading not >3 hours ago.. "We were offered the data" (vidme)
if the delivered format is the problem..well..tough nuggins
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CoolCanukhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OIphYzGk/
this might help.
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omglolbahnot sure how to access the internals of the docker image, little experience with docker <.< [01:51]
ola_norskomglolbah: the virtualbox seems to be basically 3 files packed in a tar archive
disk1. disk2, and the ovf
docker is undoubtebly no lesser
2 partion images + machine definition
a "docker" file is problable the same
some kind of tar/gz/zip/rar thingy
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kisspunchYeah we basically need one-click programs... I was gonna try and package up IA.BAK for windows but... I was lazy and didn't... [01:56]
omglolbahthis warrior seems to just grab a docker image on first start, but the docker-image is broken for vidme [01:56]
ola_norskfor 'one click' it would require some solid platform detection, download of requirements, then applying a shitload of commands to get it moving
e.g "Virtualbox is not available..Trying <something else>"
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omglolbahthe old warrior image worked great for the jobs that came with it
and was 30 seconds of setup-time
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ola_norskexcept it crashed when i tried to run it.. [02:00]
kisspunchOne click is easier to IA.BAK than warrior, yeah [02:00]
omglolbahia.bak? [02:00]
kisspunchomglolbah: medium-alive project to back up IA
with associated software
http://iabak.archiveteam.org/, http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK
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ola_norskVirtualBox does not seem to be the stabelest of things..IMO [02:03]
JAAWorks fine for me. [02:03]
ola_norskhere it crashed, while the same worked fine in KVM
it even froze desktop interaction, so had to go to tty and kill it to go interact with the desktop
the fact that all shit froze, i'd blame on vbox, not archiveteam
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JAASounds like you're using an unstable version of VirtualBox then. [02:07]
ola_norski takes what apt-get giveth meh [02:07]
JAAI've been running the version in the Debian repos for years without issues.
versions*
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ola_norsk'unstable version' is a problem then
mind you, i'm not exactly on 'cutting edge' :D
if 'apt-get install virtualbox' fucks things up..that's a bad
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JAAYeah, my experience is mostly with versions from the stable distribution(s).
Hm, in what way?
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ola_norsknewly installed lubuntu
with no frills or whistles
ubuntu Ubuntu 17.10 based Lubuntu
-ubuntu
every depo would be 'official' , nothing added whatsoever
i think i posted the virtualbox log of the crash
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ola_norskit's all fun and games until the virtual machine behaves irradical ... https://youtu.be/FL7-sbiGlzw
JAA: put some grease into it man https://bitbucket.org/duckhuntpr0/archiveteam-warrior-kvm
JAA: it could use decreasing of mess.. But it does run..
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JAAThat seems to require an account? [02:25]
ola_norskaye, it's too shit to put on github
yet
or=
i don't know..
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JAAThere's so much crap on GitHub anyway. :-P [02:27]
ola_norskif put on github, and in public, in general, it's so shit it would be cause 'Issue' :D [02:28]
JAA? [02:28]
ola_norskfirst of all, it needs 'dynamic' modifying of the xml file, since relative paths doesnt work [02:29]
JAAAnd now you're going to tell me that you do that with regex? :-P [02:30]
ola_norskand also, since it's intended for 'off site' host, briding (with or without vnc or http acces)
regex is greek to me
if it can't be done by c++, python, sh, bat...i'm screwed
fucking regex...
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ola_norskJAA: you killed my morale man :( https://youtu.be/LIPc1cfS-oQ
JAA: psst..do you happen to know regex? ;) i could use it..
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JAAWithout even understanding what you're trying to do. :-/
Yeah, I know and love regex. What do you need?
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ola_norski'll get there...the failure to understand is EXACTLY why i keep the shit on bitbucket for the time being :D [02:39]
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ola_norskola_norsk doesn't understand x% of it [02:40]
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ola_norskhow can "Camera" be a link? https://i.imgur.com/Wwn1LuO.png [02:49]
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ola_norskinternet is thoroughly broken :( https://youtu.be/98AJUj-qxHI [02:52]
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CoolCanukhostname
idk
id love to watch that but I got a 1 min unskippable ad
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ola_norskCoolCanuk: hey canuc, how might i get youtube-dl to execute an upload after each downlowed? [04:58]
CoolCanukwot
oh
im not sure :(
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ola_norskmy damn script deleted itself... [04:58]
CoolCanukwe are told not to modify the script so you need to submit a pull request [04:58]
ola_norskwot? [04:58]
CoolCanukis this for vid.me ? [04:58]
ola_norskaye [04:59]
CoolCanukidk
sowwy
im not a magician like others
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ola_norski'm not sticking with those pessimists though, i'm archiving channels i like
damnit
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ola_norskit takes a real idiot to spend 30 minutes to write a shell script..and then run it for an hour, just to have it delete itself..
ola_norsk is that idiot
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ola_norskyoutube-dl is damn mong not having a --execute-on-dowload argument [05:11]
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Odd0002what? [05:51]
ola_norskaye [06:01]
Odd0002: questioning percieved logic is the road to success [06:13]
Odd0002I didn't understand what you mean by that statement [06:14]
ola_norskOdd0002: neither did i :) https://youtu.be/ieQH6X_XBJo
the scrip deleted itself though..
along with an hour of downloaded shit..
lesson is; don't write scripts that delete themselves after finished task..
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ola_norskOdd0002: you know youtube-dl ? [06:47]
Odd0002yes [06:49]
ola_norskgreat, how do i make it iterate trough weeks, using --datebefore and --dateafter ? that's what this mong machine deleted :) [06:50]
Odd0002no idea [06:51]
ola_norskthen we are two [06:52]
Odd0002I just do youtube-dl -f best <url>
I didn't even know it had a datebefore and dateafter
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ola_norskaye it does
e.g "--dateafter now-1weeks"
and e.g "--datebefore now+1weeks"
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ola_norsk is a sufferer of dyscalculia [06:59]
holy crap..i just realized the mistake! https://youtu.be/mgXphurrsE0
1+1=2
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godaneso i can't sign up on fedex.com
i don't know what i'm doing wrong since there is no bold red error saying i didn't fill it out
the continue button is not clickable
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godaneSketchCow: FedEx Online Account Registration is not able to process your request at this time. Please try again later or call 1.800.463.3339.
i really hate fedex now
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CoolCanukhow about ..... no https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nNf0YmuS/image.png
what the actual f https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fqq2ciHl/image.png
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schbiridyay, i found my old backups that should have my bitcoinz
lol, for a second i thought i had 5 of them because the shitty tool showed no unit
but it is mbtc
i am rich!
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closuredude, you made me look at my wallets
woah, 100 mbtc is worth actual money? That was like, dust
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CoolCanukhow can I find a GO pack via domain? https://archive.fart.website doesnt show it [21:05]
JAACoolCanuk: Try searching https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/archivebot-archives [21:08]
CoolCanukwe really need a directory of all our tools. thanks [21:08]
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dashcloudthere's an audit page(s) on the wiki where we previously tried to add in links to the final locations for the archives, and any other information- maybe one like that for tools? [21:20]
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CoolCanukto be useful, the wiki needs to stay up. a static page would be fine
maybe I'll make us a symbaloo page
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JAACoolCanuk: I just built that thing pretty recently, and it's really just a workaround until the viewer is fixed. But yeah, that might take a while, so it would probably make sense to mention it on the wiki somewhere. [21:38]
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sec0ndSo we've got all this data but no way to organize and categorize it really. Are there any methods of curation / organization that anyone knows of that works well? [23:09]
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JAAThat question definitely needs more details on what you're trying to do.
Personally, I'm a fan of deeply nested directories and links (symlinks or hardlinks).
There's also tagging software and all kinds of other stuff.
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