#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-15,Fri

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00:00 🔗 ola_norsk i've only been here for a short while. But, ok, i'll shuttit :D
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00:52 🔗 Somebody2 PoorHomie: It is NOT true that IA "never deletes anything". What is true is that IA *MAY* keep offline copies of material that is "darked". Or it may not.
00:53 🔗 Somebody2 If someone objects to something on IA, they will generally accomodate the objector by making the material less accessible.
00:53 🔗 PoorHomie Guess never may have been too strong of a word
00:54 🔗 PoorHomie but yea, that's basically what I meant
00:54 🔗 Somebody2 Ranging from applying geoblocks, requiring a (free, unverified) login, to ceasing distributing the material at all.
00:55 🔗 Somebody2 Once the material is not being distributed, whether or not IA retains a copy of it is ... encouraged to be treated as irrelevant.
01:00 🔗 ola_norsk PoorHomie: i purposefully made this item "Noindex: true", since it's quite raw capture. Just in case i'd forget it or die..it's still there
01:01 🔗 ola_norsk PoorHomie: https://archive.org/details/output_201711
01:01 🔗 Harzilein hmm
01:01 🔗 Harzilein should i try and make an index for the parts of the gna dump that came out as tarballs?
01:01 🔗 ola_norsk it's not visible on my profile, or in search index though
01:02 🔗 ola_norsk if Dr. Oz would like it taken down, so be it..
01:02 🔗 Harzilein was lucky finding the project i wanted from it through binary search and looking for the "ustar" string
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01:15 🔗 ola_norsk i'm not sure yet how 'Noindex: true' works, but from what i see, i'd have to keep that link around myself..But, the data is there, still.
01:19 🔗 ola_norsk and it being 'there' is really the extent of my care :)
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01:40 🔗 ola_norsk PoorHomie: i think someone here once told me that IA most likely doesn't delete anythinghing; (At most) just hide it.. And i think think that is fair enough. It's an archive after all :)
01:41 🔗 PoorHomie Well, I can't find the page but I'm pretty sure it explicitly states that on their website
01:41 🔗 PoorHomie I read it either there or possible on archiveteam's site
01:42 🔗 PoorHomie it literally says somewhere that they only "dark" items, never remove them
01:43 🔗 ola_norsk i don't know what that means, but i'm guessing 'dark' means 'hide'
01:43 🔗 PoorHomie I assumed that as well
01:43 🔗 PoorHomie "dark" was their term, not mine
01:43 🔗 ola_norsk ah
01:45 🔗 ola_norsk still, it's better than delete though, since it can then be revealed/brought into light, some day :)
01:46 🔗 ola_norsk by some future IT-Diana Jone's :D
01:48 🔗 ola_norsk when mankinds goes "if only we had some information about that old shit.."...it pops up ;)
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04:37 🔗 robogoat Did these get grabbed at all? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvGO_dWo8VfcmG166wKRy5z-GlJ_OQND5
04:49 🔗 robogoat SketchCow: Youtube won't let me chat because I don't have my own channel
04:49 🔗 robogoat Even after signing in with my Borg-Issued username.
06:19 🔗 Somebody2 I'm pretty sure there isn't anywhere on IA with an explicit statement that they keep items that are darked. That would be really counterproductive for them to say that.
06:20 🔗 Somebody2 The point of darking an item is that no-one outside IA should be concerned about it any further. It is "no longer available".
06:21 🔗 Somebody2 What might happen to it in the future is a matter for uninformed speculation.
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09:49 🔗 ranma and now i wait for a video to get darked :D
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13:10 🔗 godane https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-15896939
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16:34 🔗 SketchCow godane: I am trying, today, to round up a box of VHS tapes to send to you.
16:35 🔗 SketchCow This is a relatively small set of VHS tapes that represent every time someone dropped off tapes in a well-meaning way to have them ripped "someday"
16:35 🔗 SketchCow Welcome to Someday
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18:31 🔗 godane ok
18:36 🔗 godane SketchCow: i still have to figure out how to mail the boxes using fedex
18:43 🔗 SketchCow You tell me what's easiest.
18:43 🔗 SketchCow We could generate a label for you to put on it
18:43 🔗 godane that would work
18:43 🔗 SketchCow Then it gets dropped off at fedex or called for a pickup
18:43 🔗 SketchCow Can you weigh it or use the weight it had on the old label?
18:45 🔗 godane the weight on one package label i still have said its 10.00lb
18:46 🔗 godane my main problem was the fedex website keeps fighting me
18:46 🔗 godane trying to make a account cause the continue button to not work
18:46 🔗 godane but there was like nothing in red to tell me if i did anything wrong
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19:51 🔗 odemg https://www.strawpoll.me/14627946
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19:53 🔗 vantec 32/64/128GB is standard now, yes?
19:56 🔗 HCross2 24gb.. I'm odd
20:00 🔗 odemg I'm using a laptop for everything lately (16GB), workstation thats packed up has 128GB and I realise why I put that much ram in it now, I'm aways hovering around 15GB used and have to constantly watch usage, fucking shit me annoying
20:09 🔗 zino odemg: In my main terminal, in my closet servers, or all combined? :)
20:11 🔗 zino Also, can I count this box of loose DIMMs marked "3TB RAM"?
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20:23 🔗 bitspill odemg: 24GB in the laptop and 32GB in the desktop
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20:47 🔗 Kaz 24gb because "32gb and a broken stick"
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22:36 🔗 godane https://soundcloud.com/glennbeck/12-15-17-the-internet-is-not
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