#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-29,Fri

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04:05 🔗 JAA second: Oh, just remembered that you pinged me in #archiveteam last night. Getting such a WARC into the WM shouldn't be a problem in general, I think. Just upload it with mediatype:web and wait for approval. Make sure to document clearly what you did in the description. And please share whatever code you write to achieve that selenium+warcproxy setup; which browser are you planning to use with it?
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04:25 🔗 astrid oh hey cool i found some warcs on my old disk array that never made it to IA
04:25 🔗 astrid bunch of stuff actually
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05:28 🔗 SketchCow Feel free to try to go after pineapplefund
05:28 🔗 SketchCow But bear in mind he apparently cited Archive Team in the $1mil to Archive.org
05:28 🔗 SketchCow And he is ONLY donating to registered nonprofits
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09:28 🔗 HCross2 How does one change the default warrior project?
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13:34 🔗 jrwr SketchCow: we could use more burst power at times
13:34 🔗 jrwr HCross2: someone with tracker admin does
13:53 🔗 schbirid anyone into collecting music scene releases? let's collaborate
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14:24 🔗 HCross2 jrwr: I've got admin but I can't seem to do it
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14:49 🔗 jrwr schbirid: we need to get the entire dump from demoscene radio
14:49 🔗 schbirid jrwr: i meant piracy scene ;)
14:49 🔗 jrwr OH
14:49 🔗 jrwr lol
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14:59 🔗 schbirid i realised how managable it would be, up to 2011 it was just ~80TB
15:00 🔗 schbirid nowadays ~50GB per day
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15:24 🔗 JAA We need to grab the Cakewalk downloads manually as they require an account. Random example that ArchiveBot just attempted: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Download/1794
15:24 🔗 JAA No idea whether there are any further barriers, like having to register the corresponding product with them first or whatever.
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16:40 🔗 godane SketchCow: we are up to 2017-09-30 with kpfa
16:40 🔗 godane also tagesschau is up to 1997-07-16
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20:39 🔗 SketchCow Great
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21:05 🔗 ola_norsk if indeed IA ran out of storagespace, what would/could the consquences be?
21:05 🔗 ola_norsk temporary limiting of people to archive items?
21:06 🔗 ola_norsk that being said, i'm happy to see the donation goal almost reached :D
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21:09 🔗 Laverne thanks for the reminder, just dropped in my donation :)
21:10 🔗 ola_norsk i'm kind of hoping the $5 dollars i put into promoting it on minds.com did more than the $5 i actually donated directly
21:11 🔗 ola_norsk 7.302 views vs $5 from some poor sod like me :D
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21:12 🔗 astrid you mean $20, because of the match
21:12 🔗 ola_norsk ?
21:13 🔗 jrwr Ya, I tried that route, got a few from reddit to donate, then got yelled at (thinking about it now, I was being dumb)
21:14 🔗 ola_norsk jrwr: getting yelled at is a kind of donation i guess :D
21:14 🔗 jrwr lol
21:14 🔗 ola_norsk martyrdom etc
21:15 🔗 ola_norsk they wont be yelling the day reddit closes it's doors
21:17 🔗 ola_norsk "jrwr, the Noah of Reddit"
21:17 🔗 jrwr lol
21:17 🔗 jrwr Ah, Well if you didnt see I quotes scott a little too hard :)
21:17 🔗 jrwr quoted*
21:22 🔗 ola_norsk for some wierd reason, people think stuff is going to stick around forever or that new is _always_ better..
21:25 🔗 ola_norsk in a extreme hypothetical situation; What good is a seedbank, if the knowledge of how to cultive and farm the seeds are not kept..
21:26 🔗 ola_norsk without that knowledge, e.g Svalbard Seed Vault is nothing but a grain silo
21:28 🔗 jrwr lol
21:28 🔗 jrwr Even now
21:28 🔗 jrwr The internet archive is an interesting issue
21:28 🔗 jrwr see books can be kept at rest for dozens of years, no real active up-keep
21:29 🔗 ola_norsk not if deemed "outdated" :/ https://youtu.be/NdZxI3nFVJs
21:32 🔗 ola_norsk books does require upkeep i would say. Yet those books, at least the content within, could be stored today massively compacted.
21:32 🔗 jrwr Ya
21:32 🔗 jrwr But its still more money to keep up a digital array of mass media then a collection of books on microfilms
21:33 🔗 jrwr mind you its 10x easier to get to the data on the IA
21:33 🔗 jrwr so theirs that
21:33 🔗 ola_norsk aye
21:33 🔗 astrid smaller information is more fragile.
21:34 🔗 astrid and take it to -ot
21:35 🔗 * jrwr waits for -ot-ot to exist
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21:51 🔗 second JAA I used chrome for it but ended up switching to firefox because chrome wasn't caching things
21:51 🔗 second I just restarted it because firefox crashed / froze for whatever reason but I have a list of what urls were hit and which ones weren't so its good
22:03 🔗 JAA second: Nice. I've been meaning to look into this as well since hearing about Firefox's headless mode (released a few months ago). Definitely interested in your code, playing around with it, and seeing how well it works. :-)
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22:28 🔗 second JAA its not even headless, it can be but I used the selenium hub with the firefox debug node which has a vnc server so I can watch it do its thing
22:29 🔗 second I do have warc proxy on another server in the US though because the website I'm mirroring blocks certain server blocks
22:31 🔗 JAA Ah, I see. I mean yeah, that works as well. My use case would be mostly headless though.
22:32 🔗 JAA Less resources etc.
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